How many people actually understand what a lockdown would involve?

[Bearbehind]

I realise there’s outrage about our governments handling of this but, on one hand we appear to have countless people insisting schools must shut now

And on the other hand we have people who-

• think they could still participate in their hobbies
• think a lock down would be over in a fortnight
• think they could go on a cheap holiday while the kids are off

How many people genuinely understand locking down now will be for months and you won’t be classed as ‘exceptional’ or ‘special’ - you’ll be expected to actually stay inside for the duration otherwise it achieves nothing.

To be clear, Italy aren't trying to prevent people getting this. We will still eventually get to the tipping point which is her immunity. They are just trying to prevent everyone getting this at once. Sadly even with the lockdown in the towns where it started, it wasn't enough and in Lombardia, the richest area of Italy with superb medical services, doctors are having to choose the people they think will make it and leave others without ventilators. Plenty of people in their 50s in intensive care, with the help of a ventilator most make it through. Without itq, their bodies would just give up. The ventilator gives you time to fight the virus. So if there aren't enough ICU beds it's ciao to your husband, or neighbour, or friend. I personally think that's a big enough reason to let the economy turn to shit and work from home with kids on my lap for a month.

People mention that it would be necessary to obtain food supplies during a lockdown and are accused of saying they'd need quinoa.

Not much else to be said.

With regards to Dr's I am in Scotland and had a text for our very large Gp practice today advising that they are closed to anything expect urgent medical issues. Both Gp's and nurses will only see people if deemed a serious medical issue that requires immediate attention. No one is allowed into building until have been screened through telephone and agreed they are allowed to attend

I am concerned because I’m t1.
I’ve essentiallt accepted I’m done for. If the virus doesn’t get me I will probably run out of insulin / supplies and won’t be able to get any more. Will there even be a dr to prescribe? I’m doubtful. 24 hours without insulin and I will be pretty ill. 48 hours I will probably be dead.

OP thinks being in lock down is locking everyone in their home and throw away the key.

I am not sure they are very clear on what it actually COULD mean.

We are going towards warmer months, if nothing else cadavers do STINK.

Of course people still need to buy things - Amazon deliveries makes more sense than opening shops where the staff stocking shelves have to come into contact with the public and the customers with each other.

I literally despair

I’d hoped this thread would prove me wrong and prove people knew what this would take

The fact that whether you get your Amazon order in time is a priority completely proves I was right in thinking the UK will never do this

The fact you prioritise getting whatever ‘stuff’ you need delivered to your door, seemingly by magic proves why this is such a mess

OP thinks being in lock down is locking everyone in their home and throw away the key.

Not quite, but it’s a shit load closer than the notion it just involves Waitrose and Amazon bringing your every desire to your doorstep

No it really isn’t under lock down conditions

But anyone buying enough stuff to make sure they don’t have to go to the shops for a month is being accused of being stupid.

@Bearbehind you do realise Amazon delivers food and other essential supplies such as cleaning products, right? Cleaning products are pretty essential in times such as these.

It's not all books and kindles.

It IS much less risky for one person to do contactless drop-offs of supplies to multiple people than to have all of those people walk down the street and go into a grocery store together.

Bearbehind
you are watching too many movies mate. You really expect people to be left to rot with no food, no running water, guarded by street robots (as army will be in lock down just the same) and shot down the second they try to go through their front door?

What's the actual point of that? Might as well die from the virus, no need to die of starvation and lack of water

Bear-behind but surely those at most risk from Coronavirus need to get things delivered rather than have to be amongst people?

As far as I know, The first mention of lockdown in Italy, meant schools, cinemas theatres etc were closed and no large gatherings but people still went to supermarkets and to work. Then stricter measures came in.

@Bearbehind

there’s little point in me trying to explain

No. Please do. I"m fascinated to hear from you exactly what the specific terms of a UK lockdown that hasn't actually been implemented will be, as you seem remarkably certain about it all.

I'm particularly interested in the bit where you berate someone for asking about "essential trips to supermarkets" and go on to tell them that "In China 1 person per household was allowed to get supplies every 3 days" as though these are completely different things.

If you could do it in a way where you don't take what I've said and distort it wildly so you can patronise me, that would be lovely.

You were the only person to mention quinoa as well.

Then who is bringing supplies to houses, @Bearbehind? The military? What's the difference between them doing it compared to Ocado?

You can't leave people to die in their homes through starvation or lack of medication.

If people aren't allowed out then someone has to bring things to them.

you do realise Amazon delivers food and other essential supplies such as cleaning products, right? Cleaning products are pretty essential in times such as these

FFS

You do realise that getting a bottle of Jif delivered to your door isn’t the number 1 priority in a lockdown situation

I utterly despair

I’d hoped this thread would show most people did get it

Sadly not

food.. amazon sells food.

You can buy pasta, cereals and all sorts of FOOD on amazon

Why? Have you got a strict list of the only food that is available in case of lock down and it doesn't include pasta? Do tell us what you expect people to eat? Or just nothing?

@Bearbehind - who said anything about Jif? Do you not think people will need bleach or disinfectant sprays to help stop the spread of the virus? Stopping the spread of the virus is pretty important (not that I should have to point that out).

You're distorting anything anyone says and making it sound like people who want food are spoilt brats demanding their quinoa.

I strongly suspect you are on the wind up and have no appetite, or ability for, a logical discussion.

I strongly suspect you are on the wind up

that's pretty clear, but I am quite curious to know what dystopian bad tv show the OP has in mind

My point is, and always was, you can’t just shut schools and ban outdoor gatherings without other huge consequences

Whilst you have people who think they could still pop to the beach or could still order their shopping on Amazon, they’re really not changing their habits much, they’re just making the their lives comfortable

If you want lockdowns to start today then fine - but accept you’re not going to pop to the beach or get your Tesco delivery when it suits for a good few months

@Bearbehind I assumed you were trying to explain that you envisage lockdown in this country to mean minimal access to supplies - only supermarkets and pharmacies open and people encouraged to go as infrequently as possible and alone (as in one from the household),

But now I'm confused because they aren't allowed to do that either, or order things to their door? And if they aren't allowed to stockpile - what then? Starve?

Cross posted and I do agree that there will be those who think it will be a lot more comfortable and convenient than it probably will be, but most of the PPs you've targeted aren't among those

New ASDA uniform for lockdown conditions

So you stay home. Can shop if necessary every three days. School sends work for the children, pets can go in the garden if you have one, as can children. Adults who can work from home.

What’s to know????

just it would actually be funny if it weren’t so serious that you literally don’t understand the point about the fact that having any goods delivered to your door isn’t an automatic right under a lockdown situation

@bearbehind. You are not listening. I am in the lockdown. Here, on my sofa. In the sodding lockdown. Amazon deliver, I ordered paper as we ran out and colouring is all my daughter age four has to do for the next bloody month. Lockdown is a scale. In Italy, people are still doing essential work in factories but nearly all office workers are at home trying to juggle work and kids. Food shops are open. But life is a million miles from normal. A lockdown outside of China is different, but when you have to take a certificate with you to the supermarket, it's definitely a lockdown. My coffee bar is offering to deliver ice-cream! Frivolous yes, but people still need to try to earn and living and minimal contact is the aim, not no contact at all. We are slowing it, not stopping it. It isn't black and white like you seem to think.