Prime minister announcement at 12

[Hugglespuffed]

Is it going to be drastic changes? Or just 'work at home if you can'?

www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2020/03/11/there-is-a-choice-on-coronavirus-we-can-save-people-or-the-economy-but-not-both-and-the-government-is-choosing-the-economy/?fbclid=IwAR2EZ9HA1xu1dxllAQVctdKRVNjO4z3uxzXtJvDq7daySkXXXxmNz-F4uhE

Just come across this

Love how he said many of us will loose loved ones.

Love how trips to the houses of parliament have been cancelled.

Love how the grand Prix has been cancelled yet our children have to go to school. Great to hear.

Also to say it peaks on 10-14 weeks. Everyone's been looking forward to the nicer weather. Well summer is going to be great. Death, coronavirus and being on lockdown. Then when it all starts to calm down again it's nearly autumn and we. An look forward to another 6 months of coughs, colds, stomach bugs, flu and coronavirus, mixed in with shit weather and dark nights.

Depressing times. I didn't feel his speech was clear. My daughter has a mild cough. She's had it a week. I presume she's allowed to school. The schools moan about attendance as it is!

I wonder if this will prompt a change in nurse training with a return to the pre 2000 method, with training split between classroom and ward and trainee nurses being paid. I know many older nurses would see that as a very good thing.

@Savemefromthis4

The fact we will lose people is just that - fact.

The Houses of Parliament and Grand Prix attract a global audience. It makes sense to cancel them.

Your daughters cough hasn't developed into anything else so she can go to school.

One of the worst things they did was doing away with the diploma and bursery

One of the worst things they did was doing away with the diploma and bursery

Yep-my DD would sign up tomorrow if there was a bursary.

I thought they were re-introducing the nursing bursary?

Yep-my DD would sign up tomorrow if there was a bursary

I'd sign up tomorrow if there was a bursary.

They are but it’s a derisory amount, about £5k if memory serves me. Imagine how many nurses we’d have if they didn’t have to pay fees and earned even minimum wage while training.

Ah that's crap @Alsohuman
It needs to be reinstated properly
Our nurses are invaluable

The bursary was never removed in Scotland. This year it will be £10K a year for all nursing students.

One of us as always got a cough or cold in this house, I’m assuming you know if it’s different.

The self-isolation guidance is that anyone with a new persistent cough or a fever should self-isolate. It doesn't matter that you always have coughs and colds. You have no way of knowing if this is coronavirus or not unless you are tested. It won't be different for you unless you get it so badly you need a hospital. If you have a cough or fever, you need to stay at home for a week.

My DDs university is put in place plans for web based learning, assessments and supervisions and will be stopping face to face.

I know they will all be in the same boat but I am a bit worried about my DSs A levels - he's not the most self motivated learner and teaching at this stage would have been vital to fill the gaps. Just doing work online doesn't help with fiendishly difficult Further Maths!

doesn't matter that you always have coughs and colds. You have no way of knowing if this is coronavirus or not unless you are tested.

They don’t seem to be willingly testing people. Walking round the shops, everyone seems to have a cold at the moment.

Thinking back a few months, if you were sitting in a hall with a crowd of people, loads of people were coughing. So we can hardly assume that everyone who gets a cough now has Corona. This is why they need to be testing people, as the WHO advises. How can they decide when to close schools etc if they don’t do the tests and how can hospitals prepare when they have no idea how many people have it in the community?

I’ve just been to a school assembly.

Continuous stream of coughing kids not covering their mouths. Mother behind me with a toddler coughing the whole way through, no mouth covered, utterly unconcerned.

I got up and walked away. We are fucked, people think the rules do not apply to them

This is my thoughts, how do you KNOW it’s corona, I could haul myself and kids up for the next 4 months because someone’s always got a sniffle.
I want to be responsible, I want to do the right thing.
But it’s knowing when that is.

Nursing bursary IS coming back from September for all new and continuing students - £5k base, more for shortage areas (can't remember all of them - mental health nursing is one that sticks in my mind) for various of the allied healthcare profession courses. Only real reason I know the figures is they've put my degree course back on the list (I'd assumed we were just shit out of luck with it but apparently not)

@Graphista where do you get the idea that "most grandparents to small children are unlikely to be over 60 "

I have a 3yo, all his grandparents are over 70, he's my second child but most of my friends are the same age as me and have had their first child in their late 30's, early 40s all of whom have parents who are 60plus
It's really common among professionals who tend to have their kids a bit later to have kids once career has settled a bit so grandparents are nearly always 60plus

This is my thoughts, how do you KNOW it’s corona

You don't. If you have a new, continuous cough or a temperature you isolate anyway.

Cockola did you remove your children too? I would have done if I felt the familes and school were being irresponsible.

I actually agree with the measures taken- lockdown for 10-14 weeks is unsustainable. After 2-3 weeks, people would just think 'fuck it' and carry on with life, and everyone would reach peak at the same time. People cannot cope without paying bills and mortgages for up to 4 months on SSP, and small businesses would be up shit street. At least this way, the track of the disease can be followed and hopefully the peak of the disease and isolation will be staggered as needed. Currently there are no cases in my large council region ( East riding of Yorkshire) and only one locally, so while it will hit here, it will probably be a bit longer before it arrives, so we'd be closing now for very little benefit but very high cost.

I want to be responsible, I want to do the right thing.

The right thing is to self-isolate if you have any sort of cough or fever. That is what the government has asked you to do.

(Unofficial) Talk from teachers here is that they're gearing up for Easter-Summer holidays off school.

Thankfully I've discussed with my boss and she's heard the same so plans are being put in motion so with a bit of shuffling and a lot of inconvenience I can work around it as long as I can leave the house to get there! Worries me that so many people won't have that option though