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Time to close the schools

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PaddyF0dder · 08/03/2020 06:49

I can’t believe I’m saying this. I’m a dad to 3 very young boys. Our eldest is nearly 6 and is on the spectrum. Our twins are nearly 3. They’re hard work when they’re stuck in the house. I also work as a doctor in the NHS. Closing the schools would be a nightmare for us.

I think we need to do it, and do it early.

Watching how this virus is spreading, seeing how harmful it’s been in other countries, reading the stats on transmission, burned on healthcare etc... closing schools and nurseries really seems to be the most logical step.

The UK is at a turning point. We’re entering the stage of sustained transmission. We may already be too late. But we might still have time to enact draconian measures early as opposed to late. Closing school and nurseries. Limiting travel around the country. It seems inevitable that these things will happen, but doing it early might save the lives of the sick and vulnerable.

I honestly don’t know how my family will cope with it. We have absolutely no family support re childcare. We both work hard jobs in the NHS. I wish there was a better option. But the more I look at the facts of this outbreak, the more obvious it gets.

We need to reduce viral transmission. There are many ways, and all must be done. One such way is to close schools and nurseries. We need to do it now.

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lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:13

Why don’t you want to believe an official announcement? It’s not anecdotal.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:14

BBC news at 10.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:14

That would mean the virus was the underlying cause of death. I wonder why they're not being described in that way.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:16

They said a third person has died from covid 19.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:16

It's not believe, I'm looking at the BBC news. I'm not arguing just making sure there's no misreporting.
I can't find dh stats and I would have thought they'd come from PHE anyway.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:17

Are you sure they didn't say "died after testing positive for.."

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:18

They did use that phrase : however, he was being treated in the specialist infectious diseases unit.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:20

OK I'm out of my depth and so going to stop arguing. But he had a specialist infectious disease so it's no shock he was there. And dying wih a disease is not dying from (or even complicated by) a disease.
As a pp said there may be other deaths which were hastened or brought about by the virus which have been missed as the individuals weren't tested.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:21

He had returned from Italy with covid 19 and died. Is it a coincidence then?

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:22

If he was at death’s door, would he have been on holiday ?

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:23

I don't know, I'm not his doctor. I'm pointing out that none of the deaths are described as caused by covid19 as far as I can see.
Juat because A happened and then B happened doesn't mean A cause B.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:23

To be fair, we don't know he was on holiday.He could have been visiting family, for example. It's amazing how many very ill people appear to be on cruises.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:24

Just reported on BBC East that the MK man died from covid 19.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:25

Underlying illness can mean diabetes which many, many people have.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:25

Well, that's like they can never say what killed my FIL or my DSD : so many illnesses all at once. I believe my FIL's cert said 'multiple contributory factors'.

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:29

I just wish they’d report how many have recovered in the UK so far. We don’t have 270 ish with it, some have recovered presumably?

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:32

I suppose that's harder. You know how many have testes positive from the labs. You know how many have died from /with it because of the death certificates (and at the moment they are thankfully few enough to be immediately newsworthy). I don't think they'd follow up tested individuals.

Nononoandno · 08/03/2020 22:34

I just don’t understand why we need to wait until the numbers get to X to then close schools and gatherings etc, the numbers are going up just like they have in other countries that that seem to be a few days or so in front of us in the Development of the virus. Can’t we learn from what’s going on elsewhere?

lilgreen · 08/03/2020 22:34

I would have thought there would be a requirement to report recovery or some sort of follow-up by health authorities.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:35

From what I read on another thread they will only have publicsupport and compliance for so long so they need to time it at the critical point.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:36

Possibly but they would be a pain to collate into national stats.

StealthPolarBear · 08/03/2020 22:37

Pigy so sorry, just read that properly. Sorry to hear about your DSD. Your FIL too of course, but your DSD must have been absolutely devastating.

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:42

It was ages ago and he lived in the USA so not really : very traumatic for my DM, though as medical care in the US is always very interesting...

My DM has been married five times!

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:43

Thanks, though stealth for your kind words!

Piggywaspushed · 08/03/2020 22:44

Just realised acronyms wrong : DSD should be DSF?? Step father...