AIBU to not be worried shitless about coronavirus like the vast majority?

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Am I....????

Personally I think that all the mass hysteria threads need deleting. The risk to the economy is far greater than the risk of the virus, and mn and other press/social media are responsible for spreading fear and hysteria and should be made accountable.

This with bells on!!

What the hell has happened to stoicism?

What the hell has happened to stoicism?

It ran away with resilience.

Sounds about right Alsohuman

Alternative your illness has given you an alternative perspective. That does not fit for everyone.

Someone said their 81 year old fil was un fazed by this and was actively planning a cruise. this made me laugh because at 81,with other illnesses, I'd rather be looking forward, planning, keeping moving and hopeful.

My df would have been like a this.

But having personally, alternative, had too many very sudden tragic deaths in my family, and with a young family my self... My perspective is that life is very fragile.

The systems we have in place cushion blows but are not infallible.

I've seen a stretched children's ward, all children needing oxygen monitors and nebulisers. I've been there in a spate of illness after dd was rushed through a packed waiting room to get onto oxygen.

I know systems and don't click into magic place to save us. I know things go wrong. The barrier between us and death is gossamer thin.

I admire anyone else who is feels invincible and gung ho. And we need people who can shrug things off.

But please don't sneer at those of us who are genuinely worried. Who have small dc with lung issues. With other issues which puts them at risk. Or those of us who have seen the NHS in chaos unable to provide!

Or those of us who have endured too many tragic family deaths.

There are clearly a lot of people who haven’t yet grasped the facts. This is a serious situation which will require us to modify our behaviour in an attempt to lessen its effects. Look at the situation in Italy - their health care system is at breaking point. It could happen here and will if everyone is blasé about this.

I admire anyone else who is feels invincible and gung ho

It’s not about feeling invincible or gung ho. It’s about being able to do very little other than take sensible precautions. No amount of worry is going to change anything. I do appreciate that it’s a lot harder not to be concerned if you have a tiny child whose health is already compromised.

It might be helpful to state specifically what the problem is posters?

Saying ‘this mass hysteria’ is very vague. What exactly is hysterical? What do you think everyone specifically should do?

Some of the most balanced and informative threads are here with names like worried about Coronavirus thread. There is very good information on these about the numbers, what is the right level of community response, how the NHs is going to cope. I don’t see panic. Or if I do the person admits they are panicking and shares how to alleviate those feelings.

If mass hysteria is buying up all the toilet roll, I think 99% of people would agree?

If mass hysteria = cancelling large events - then I don’t agree and many others are with me. Cancelling large events at the right time will delay rate of transmission and alleviate beds in hospital.

If we don’t cancel events or reduce social transmission, then there will also be a huge economic cost - look at Iran for example.

@ Jumpingintotheabyss yes, life is fragile. And it’s precisely because life is fragile that we have to live it rather than wait for things to go wrong.

Because the truth is that life can be gone in a snapshot.

I’ve been there. Cardiac arrest where I was here one minute saying I felt unwell and having chest compressions the next with them not knowing whether they would be able to bring me back.

Patient on ICU who was having a bbq and climbed on to a table in some stupid stunt, fell and hit his head and .... brain dead.

Patients on motorbikes (more than one) brain dead or in a permanent vegetative state, and that was just in the two weeks I spent in ICU.

Nobody actually knows when it’s time to go. Chances are I will actually die of my heart condition once my health deteriorates and if a donor can’t be found on time. In fact there’s a high possibility that the pressure in my lungs might mean I’m not eligible for transplant, and if that happens there is nothing more that will be able to be done for me.

But I can’t just wait around for something to kill me. I’m in reasonably good health at the moment, and while of course I am taking precautions (which are generally the kinds of precautions I take anyway,) worrying about something which might not even happen is pointless.

Of course there is concern that if the virus spreads there will be a higher burden on the NHS.

But if all schools etc are closed many NHS workers will not be in work in which case there will also be a higher burden on the NHS.

People are saying that they should be able to stay home but NHS workers shouldn’t. But it doesn’t work like that.

We need to face these issues if they materialise. But at the moment, they haven’t. So we have to continue to live our lives.

Saying ‘this mass hysteria’ is very vague. What exactly is hysterical? What do you think everyone specifically should do? saying that we are all going to catch it when there is no evidence to show that.

Saying that we are all going to have to modify our lives when as yet there is no evidence to show that.

everything being talked about is hypothetical at the moment.

Bearing in mind there have been approximately 100000 infections worldwide. Out of a global population of around 11 billion people.

While it has spread relatively fast, the number of infections is still actually negligible.

Infections could stop happening tomorrow and the world could go back to normal. Just like swine flu, just like sars. Truth is we actually don’t know. And until we do its pointless panicking.

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The NHS is already operating at near 100% bed occupation.
We're a couple of weeks behind Italy, but once we have a few thousand cases, and a 10% of those need ICU beds - where are they going to come from?
What's going to happen to all the people who need ICU beds for the normal, run of the mill illnesses?

I'm not panicked, but it is going to be bad. Maybe not if you are young and healthy, but lots of people (maybe even people you care about?) are not young and healthy.

That's even before thinking about the economic consequences and all those holidays and festivals that will be cancelled...

Median age of admission to ICU in Italy is now 46

I am very worried, I have a son who is 14 with severe disabilities who needs daily suction to clear secretions from his lungs snd that's without any viruses in his system.
This virus would have devastating effects for him.
I will not be a sheep and be told by government when to take action to keep my family safe.
As of last week I took both daughters who are 7 and 3 out of school and am taking time of work to see where this all leads to to keep us all safe, Iam deciding what to do based on my own research, I refuse to listen to government who base there advice on a number of factors like the UK economy, public hysteria, shortage of NHS staff, budgets and many more.

That’s all perfectly sensible suueee and no one could criticise you for it. What is your research though? Reading stuff online or are you a scientist?

@suueee Totally understand & respect your decision. Fist bump to you x

There are now masses of scientific & clinical studies available online - WHO & Lancet are my preferred sources. It is quite an eye-opener if you have been following the ‘just the flu, business as usual’ hypothesis

Congratulations on not being worried OP.

I am a bit worried. Not overly so, yet though. I don’t understand how so many people can say ‘oh they’re blowing this all out of proportion’ and ‘so many thousand a year die from the flu’ when this is a new virus and we can’t possibly know how it’s all going to play out - from what we’ve seen so far it’s not been great so how can anyone tell people it’s being blown out of proportion?

Also, people keep saying ‘it’ll be bad for the elderly and people with compromised immune systems’ - ohhhh well that’s ok then! As long as it’s only killing off the weakest members of society!

@sueee totally fair enough. And it’s only going to be a few months probably, they will not suffer long term and if you are able to do it, I don’t think anyone will blame you.

My research is 24 hours of 14 years of care for my son, I now exactly how his genomes, chromosomes and DNA are constructed having seen him through countless clinical research studies, I have also researched based on current scientific studies not though Google but scientists working with government so I think iam pretty clued up on how the virus would respond to my son.

The whole of northern Italy is now in lockdown. UK numbers are fairly low at the moment. Italy's were at this level not very long ago...

saying that we are all going to catch it when there is no evidence to show that.
I do not think we are all going to catch it. Although I’ve heard some ‘not bothered’ people, say so what, we are all going to get it! So apparently not the hysterical groups.
Saying that we are all going to have to modify our lives when as yet there is no evidence to show that. no one can make anyone do anything. However isn’t it a good thing that more people are washing their hands? Isn’t it a good thing that many people are not taking public transport or working from home so that there is more social distancing? Or is that just hysteria.

I think this thread is divisive and very negative. It’s saying that there are those who are not crazy, who aren’t bothered, and saying that ‘them’ over there, whoever they are, are hysterical toilet roll buyers, even if most of ‘them’ are nothing of the sort!

Please don’t be smug!

I would rather do my bit and reduce pressure on critical care beds than be smug.

Jumpingintotheabyss - I agree with what you said above.

I've also experienced a lot of death in my family - family members who were young. Disability. Ill health myself and being in hospital recently made me never want to go back again, especially with anything serious. Because the place was filthy and the staff so stretched - that I knew that the likelihood of surviving with something serious was low.

All this makes me scared of this virus.

But there are many people who have been lucky enough to avoid ill health and tofeel how fragile life is. I suspect they make up the bulk of people who think this is nothing to worry about.

Are we not a few weeks behind the hot spots? So in reality it’s not really even to start to effect us yet. We will see in the next couple of months what effect this has on our family life, employment and personal finances.

That’s what’s worrying me.

I think what jumps out about this thread is that OP is feeling smug and special as she’s not worried ‘unlike the vast majority’

That is so unbelievably condescending!

It’s like putting up a thread saying ‘I’m so glad that I’ve half a brain about the Coronavirus unlike the vast thick majority’!

At a time when I’ve seen so many cooperative threads with tolerance and concern between posters, and at a time when we as communities could do with working together, I think this thread is pretty mean and divisive tbh.

The only reason I am massively pissed off is that my friend from NZ cannot come over in three weeks time because of the restrictions for her ..work wise !! Had booked lots of fun stuff for us but now it’s not going to happen 🙄