Would you self isolate?

[janemaster]

The advice is to self isolate if you have travelled from certain areas abroad, even if you have no symptoms. We know in other countries that not everyone has followed this advice.
So be honest, if you had no symptoms but were told to self isolate for 2 weeks in the house, would you? This would mean not leaving the house at all and staying in a separate room from anyone else living in your house.

YABU - No I would not
YANBU - Yes I would

People need to take it a lot more seriously and put plans into place for self isolation or illness.

Are you talking about self isolating from family members who share the same house? If so that is absolutely impossible for us. We would isolate ourselves from others if necessary but we cannot isolate from each other.

I absolutely agree that there needs to be compensation for low-paid workers and perhaps for everyone, mortgage lenders/landlords need to take into account that people may have some financial difficulty if they need to self isolate. However, I think there should also be penalties imposed if people do not self isolate when asked because clearly some people only look out for number one

This!

@SirChing homeless , housing officer AND NHS Wow

Meaning? Some of us have had rather eventful lives.

I was a housing officer for a local council

Nuff said!

And again - Meaning? Know why I left? Because I worked my arse off trying to keep people IN their properties and support them and that didn't go down to well with management. My conscience got the better of me So I retrained in the NHS. Is that Ok with you? I only went into housing as I had been homeless myself.

So take what you think you know about all Housing Officers, and have the wit to recognise that we are not some evil hive mind.

You are right that I had forgotten now that HB had been incorporated into UC, I left before that happened.

I know a lot more than you about what really happens in social housing

Apologies Helena for not bowing to your superior knowledge. I had forgotten that you see your self as Mumsnets self appointed social housing guru and you must pre approve everything that people write about it, because if you disagree, they are wrong. Where did you do your Masters in Housing again? I can't remember.

Does anyone else want to tell @SirChing about my DH or shall i?

Let me get this clear: you actually expect other mumsnetters to know about your personal life to the point that they can tell others about it? You genuinely think you are that "mumsnet famous"? Oh my God. Cringe! I had heard from others that you really rate yourself, but I thought they were just being mean. I am gobsmacked that you think out of the hundreds of thousands of members, we should know about one members husband. Arrogant isn't the word.

If your DH has COPD, then surely you would be frantic if people didn't self quarantine when they should. And as people who have to self quarantine at present are largely ON holiday or just come back from holiday, it's fairly obvious that they aren't going to hit poverty levels if they have to quarantine themselves for two weeks.

Your posts and arrogance are passively obnoxious so I won't be engaging with you again. Now I know WHY people view you the way that they do. And it is nothing to do with your knowledge!

Are you talking about self isolating from family members who share the same house?

No, I'm talking about people who say they wouldn't stay off work.

*massively obnoxious. Nothing passive about your posts!

shy Tory Helena - I have never voted Tory in my life so screw you! Not only do you expect everyone to know about your life, you also think you know how I vote now, do you? Wow, well at least there is nothing wrong with your self regard, let's put it that way.

The bedroom tax is a fucking outrage and if I hadn't already left some years ago, that would definitely have had me handing in my resignation.

There was another reason I left: the attitudes of bigots like you. Who exhibit prejudice against and stereotypes about people based on something like their job. Getting it in the neck from management because you have agreed to let someone make yet another rent arrears payment plan when really they should be in court is bad enough. Then you get the idiots who think you are the devil incarnate because of the job that you do. They made ridiculous assumptions about people's politics too.

And Now I really AM done answering your points Helena. I don't engage with bigots who are unable to see nuance and imply that people are liars becauses their experiences don't fit in with your world view.

PS Helena, that article you linked to to try to prove people get evicted for not paying two weeks rent? It's demonstrates the opposite. That people have been written to about their arrears a lot and NOT been taken to court for nonpayment. I suggest that next time you want to prove how much you know, you link an article that actuslly supports your claim

Yeah cos a low pay worker going without wages and being unable to pay rent is totally comparable to a jolly to the Far East

Nope two separate points which you have conflated into one. Very low paid disabled person here who couldn't pay the rent without two weeks wages. I just happen to think that rent arrears or losing my property isn't comparable to someone else losing their life #stickyourprivilegeup
yourarseandvaluelifeovermoney

*For nonpayment should say "for eviction"

And as people who have to self quarantine at present are largely ON holiday or just come back from holiday, it's fairly obvious that they aren't going to hit poverty levels if they have to quarantine themselves for two weeks

So which is it? Make your mind up.

I definitely would

@HeIenaDove What's your point? Copying and pasting my posts without saying why feels rather harassing.

Oh I see, you still want me to answer your tedious questions? Hahahahahaha no! I have no need to, seeing as you know doubt know all my answers already with your mystic meg abilities. Now please, don't direct any further posts at me as I will simply ignore them. I don't engage with bigots.

One minute you say im conflating two points The next you claim its all about those who have been on holiday.

You have written plenty of posts criticising posters in low pay/insecure jobs for not self isolating. And said that homelessness can easily be rectified.

You cant then complain when people make assumptions about you from the attitude you have already displayed.

And my point about social housing is from the view of being a tenant

The homeless people i know would find your posts on here incredibly offensive.

And said that homelessness can easily be rectified Citation please. And don't presume to know anything about me. Your arrogance is truly breathtaking.

But please. Stop addressing me. I do not wish to speak to you any further. If you do keep aiming comments at me and making baseless allegations, I will simply have to report you.

Ok so if it came down with it you would gladly lose your home on the chance that you may someone sick?

A) as has been explained numerous times, no-one loses their home due to two weeks rent arrears.

B) If I and my DD had to find a new home so.someone else.could live, of course I.would do that. You seem surprised that people have different moral values. News flash: having moral.values which differ to.yours don't mean that a person is.lying. again, how.arrogant!

THIS is what you posted at 9.30am today

my solution would be to say that I don't know all their circumstances but I do know that ringing Shelter or Citizens Advice often reaps rewards. And that legally GPs will be able to give sicknotes for people who self isolate to give to their employer so SSP would become available, and housing benefit etc for those two weeks

And i reiterate AGAIN that housing benefit doesnt exist in the same form anymore Its part of UC

Thought you would know that

And if it reaps rewards why are there so many homeless now?

Be better to have a short term ban on gatherings of over 100 people to stop the spread

100 people is not very mean - its one year group, including teachers, at my school. That also then means all those children need to be cared for - so at least one parent per primary age family group is going to need to be at home. That's a lot of people self isolating.

@NeverDropYourMoonCup posted this on page 2 and ive been saying the same thing on other threads.

I'm wondering how it will work for universal credit, though. If you're not being paid, can you submit a claim? And if you do, are you automatically exempt from a) going in to sort it/ID meetings/commitment meetings/ signing on, b) jobseeking activity, c) will they accept your word for it, or will they only accept a doctor's note (when you can't go to the GP) or a positive test for it

Can you imagine the sanctions being applied and the poverty caused by that - or the level of spread from job centres

@HeIenaDove telling you what I am now doing isn't threatening you. I told you I was feeling harassed by your unsubstantiated claims (which you have clearly taken out of context) abd that if you continue to do it, I shall have to report you. So I am now doing. It's not a threat. I am asking you not to harass me and make things up about me.

one of the students told us about their half term skiing trip to Italy. I mean why were they even at school, especially for an open day??

Well, surely it depends where in Italy he was?
Only 11 towns in Northern Italy are needed as red zones.
If the child has been to one of those towns he should have been in self isolation.
If he had been elsewhere in N Italy he is perfectly fine to go wherever he likes UNLESS he has symptoms.

And as people who have to self quarantine at present are largely ON holiday or just come back from holiday, it's fairly obvious that they aren't going to hit poverty levels

There are others who are also having to self isolate - those who have been in close contact with someone with symptoms, or are diagnosed. In the case of the school staff who was in school for 2 days before getting symptoms - this will be quite likely another 30+ children and various other school staff too. They may well not have left the country all year.