Would you self isolate?

[janemaster]

The advice is to self isolate if you have travelled from certain areas abroad, even if you have no symptoms. We know in other countries that not everyone has followed this advice.
So be honest, if you had no symptoms but were told to self isolate for 2 weeks in the house, would you? This would mean not leaving the house at all and staying in a separate room from anyone else living in your house.

YABU - No I would not
YANBU - Yes I would

Not destroying my life is worth a damn sight more than the death of a stranger

Same. My children are more important than anyone else.

My job involves ensuring people's Internet works, so I'm in 2 minds. I'm not sure how people would self isolate without the Internet. So, no Netflix, no online shopping, mumsnet unless you have good 4g.

Oh dear at these statements. Other people’s selfish actions can affect your dc too.

Well nothing I can do about that.

That was to pp and being selfish.

We all rely on each other to a certain extent not to make it worse for dc.

I hope the people who do care have the better luck.

But it won't stop it spreading generally. Which is why China and North Korea forced people to isolate.

That is totally wrong thinking. Self isolating will massively reduce the spread, massively reduce the numbers, and delay it. Self isolation will save countless lives especially of our older and weaker people, and also will mean many more people will not have to go into critical care units before they recover.

Many areas of China are self isolating voluntarily and not under forced isolation, and it is working really well. People are cooperating with each other. My friends daughter is in one of these areas and is having to massively cut down her work, and live off much less, and working by Skype much of the time and doing very minimal direct work in a safe manner, walking instead of transport and limiting time in shops. Everyone around her is doing the same and they are reducing the spread and impact in their area with no policing or guards.

We rely on money.
Until the Government come up with a plan to ensure that Mortgages and bills are paid its every man for themselves.

But realistically this may be a population control issue. So maybe they will delay on effective control.

I mean you can call people selfish for wanting to ensure their family can eat and have a roof over their head or you can consider why the government aren’t dealing with this issue in order to help stop the spread. Nobody wants to spread this illness but also nobody wants to face losing their job/home and leaving their children hungry. It is a solvable issue but the government/large companies aren’t willing to do anything to solve it right now.

Same. My children are more important than anyone else.

Such silly thinking! If you really mean that you would self isolate anyway? As your children will be more at risk of your refusal to act responsibly!

its every man for themselves

Maybe those posters would have more people to help them in these types of situation if they weren't such selfish people? God knows what some of you would do if you were hit by a car and were in hospital for two weeks. And if you are a parent and don't know what you would do, it might be a good idea to, you know, think about it and make provision for your bills and kids.

Oh, and if someone's business is so weak that they couldn't go for two weeks without warning, then it may be better to look for alternative work. Life throws curveballs. It's spectacularly immature to just hope that these don't happen.

Yes I would quite easily.

I work from home and my pantry is full together with fridge/freezer. I have stockpiled DD’s inhalers and both all medications we take are up to date. I recognise it’s not as easy for everyone though!

So who's paying for the roof over their head? How will we self isolate if we get thrown out?
Who's paying for the heating? The water? The food? No point staying healthy if you starve.

Looking at the statistics my family are in the low risk category if we catch it.
Of course it could go bad but so can chickenpox.

I would self isolate and would need food and maybe prescriptions from chemist. In that case I would hope someone could leave them outside the front door and ring the bell.

If I was hit by a car people could come into my house and help....because we wouldn't be isolated.

@SirChing I look forward to you putting that view forward the next time there is a thread about food banks. Or people needing their child's school to feed the family and wags their clothes.

What irresponsible people. It's their fault. Should've planned better.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit I would say if a person had their own business and was having to rely on food banks, that clearly their business wasn't feasible as a source of long term income. And thst they needed to plan how to either increase their revenue, cut costs, or obtain alternative work. How is that wrong?

Hypothetically, if you go out for a walk/run at 2am in the morning, outside of a city, don’t touch anything, don’t meet/speak to anyone then the risk of infection is the same as breathing while you have a window open in your house I would assume.

People on 0 hour contracts rely on food banks. They are employed with zero protections. If they don't turn up to work they don't get paid.
So what's your solution.

Nobody wants to spread this illness but also nobody wants to face losing their job/home and leaving their children hungry. It is a solvable issue but the government/large companies aren’t willing to do anything to solve it right now.

Honestly I think you just need to inform yourself better about how viruses spread and how to manage risks.

A) A few weeks self isolation is not going to mean your children starve! Almost all jobs can be flexible if it comes down to it, and almost everyone has annual leave and sick leave, or benefits, or whatever.

B) if you those most at risk of spreading the virus do not self isolate if necessary, then many many more people, think one person = 400+ will then have to self isolate. Like in Tenerife for example.

C) Companies are being responsible. They are sending people home and allowing people to work from home if necessary, as in that London company, can’t remember the name, with pay.

D) if your primary aim is just your own safety, then not isolating is putting yourself at increased risk. Ignoring symptoms and carrying on working, and possibly giving yourself a higher viral load, when you do know that >10% need critical care in hospital don’t you? That is no picnic, you want to put your own family through that?

E) it is your own family that will be most at risk if you do not act responsibly and will be more likely to catch it from you.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit Also, people don't get thrown out immediately for not paying two weeks rent. The landlord has to serve notice then go to court to get an eviction order. That takes time. And no judge will grant that order if the person had massively extenuating circumstances and had made a plan to repay the outstanding rent over time.

Wrong. People get into a hole that they can't get out of.
They will never be able to dig out of the red because they were eating hand to mouth.

And because they are now constantly failing to pay bills they won't be able to pay rent in full.
And a judge won't allow somebody to stay in a house they can't pay for.

Neither will a bank. They're response will be so sad. To bad.

And a judge won't allow somebody to stay in a house they can't pay for

Neither will a bank. They're response will be so sad. To bad

And neither will or indeed can thrown out a tenant/owner on two weeks arrears.

Gosh your username is apt isn’t it?!

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit my solution would be to say that I don't know all their circumstances but I do know that ringing Shelter or Citizens Advice often reaps rewards. And that legally GPs will be able to give sicknotes for people who self isolate to give to their employer so SSP would become available, and housing benefit etc for those two weeks. When people apply for UC they can also get an immediate loan transferred to their bank account, and they can apply for UC online or over the phone.

None of that is ideal. All of it is preferable to some family losing a loved one because a person didn't self quarantine due to the potential inconvenience. Your kids only come first to you. Don't expect other people to ever agree with you putting their kids at risk so yours are ok.

Wrote to my MP asking them to put pressure on the government to make some clear statements about late bill payments etc so that people who have interrupted income aren't fighting banks, utilities etc.
We are trying to fix this problem be relying on people acting for the common good. What if they can't.
I'm a general prepper as I am fond of boring everyone on here by saying. I'd really encourage people to look at cookingonabootstrap.com/ and Tin Can Cook to try and put some extra bits away on a budget. But there are going to be people who are starting that approach from zero at the worst possible time. And are expected to do it quickly and not slowly (which is cheaper) in order to serve the common good.
So we should be turning our words to tbe government and get them to speak to banks and utilities about late payment. And to look at some kind of emergency fund for people who need it.
And if you don't need it, start taking more care of your own pantry and stop expecting me to pay for you when you can help yourself. Get out of the way so help can go to people who need it.