To think that we must stop stressing about coronavirus

[Booboostwo]

Because stress and panic risk causing more deaths in and of themselves.

I know the WHO is still labeling this containment phase but it is quite clear that the virus transmission is very close to being out of control. It will then spread everywhere because it spreads easily, there isn't much you can do to avoid catching it and people can be asymptomatic, have few symptoms or take up to a month to show symptoms.

To repeat, we are all getting this, sooner or later.

Prepers, sorry, but unless you can stay away from other human beings for a few months until a vaccine is developed and produced in adequate numbers so that you can get one, you are also getting it.

And yes, my DS who is 5yo is asthmatic, I have elderly relatives and a friend who is immunosuppressed. But stressing and panicking will not help them either.

We all need to keep calm. Stop raiding the supermarkets, stop freaking out and depressing the economy and we need to make sure that scarce medical resources are kept free and accessible for those who will genuinely need help because of the virus.

That is the only helpful and effective thing we can do.

Colds, pneumonia and flu are contagious though.

Sure, but in the vast majority of people, they are not fatal. The NHS website states:

"Colds are caused by viruses and easily spread to other people. You're infectious until all your symptoms have gone. This usually takes a week or 2. Colds are spread by germs from coughs and sneezes, which can live on hands and surfaces for 24 hours.

To reduce the risk of spreading a cold:

• wash your hands often with warm water and soap
• use tissues to trap germs when you cough or sneeze
• bin used tissues as quickly as possible"

There is nothing on their website about staying at home or missing work. So you can't really compare that with government advice to self-quarantine with corona.

Some people on here see it as a badge of honour to struggle to work. Dunno why.

It's not a badge of honour, really. Most people can't afford to take time off for a cold!

I have been watching Dr John Campbell’s videos on YouTube recommended by someone here. He shares the reason why China has managed to slow the rate of the spread is by most of the nation complying with strict measures.

Should our health authorities and government here signal this needs to happen here in the UK, may well not be necessary, I hope people are aware though incredibly disruptive it will be necessary.

The difference between this and bird flu etc is the way other countries are reacting to it. I have never known whole cities to be locked down. They wouldn't do that unless and risk their economies unless this virus has to potential to be catastrophic.
Those in government know far more than we do about this.

If I hear one more person say its only flu, I will despair.

That said, sensible precautions and prepping is what is needed. Panicking won't help.

I don't think our government will chose to lock down. They are too liaise faire. There are also too many selfish people who would ignore the rules, thinking they are exempt, nipping out for a quick jog in the fresh air or taking their child to the park because 'they can't stand being cooped up and wont meet anyone anyway'

Mumsnet have been repeatedly asked about a coronavirus thread, have they agreed to one yet? It would solve the problem for those posters who are being upset by all the threads. They could easily move threads if people post about coronavirus in aibu.

I'm bored sh*tless of hearing about Corona. If we get it, we get it, if we die, we die. Stressing won't change that.

I'm still going for a weekend away with DP in north-central Italy in a few weeks. Bugger it.

Swine and bird flu were obviously not going to be an issue in the UK. AIDS was an issue in the gay community and IV drug users, not generally. BSE was always going to be a limited issue.
Corona virus is different as can be seen from its spread.

One one hand you are asking people to dial back on the panic. On the other you say we are all going to get this virus. Which is a ridiculous statement and one that is guaranteed to feed any sense of panic that people may have.

Not everyone is going to get it. That’s a ridiculous statement to make. And many of those who may catch it are likely to have it mildly.

Foobydoo
If you think having a dedicated Corona Virus topic will help, it really won't. HQ do not often move threads to more appropriate topics.

I am not panicking but having read the WHO reports I do not agree with you. I believe we should be containing aggressively. 60000 cases out of 14million in Wuhan is what happens if you do not contain early and trace aggressively. That is a high rate of infection. But if we believe the statistics that this affects the vulnerable, then the vulnerable should be really well supported and advised and be allowed to stay off work (if still working) and compensated accordingly and their insurances etc should pay out. Rather than shutting the whole economy down.

@otterturk That’s fair, but please don’t appear on BBC Breakfast whinging about being flown back to the UK if you end up quarantined there.

Tenerife is hands down the worst place I have ever paid money to visit. Many of the locals hated the British regardless of whether you were a yob or not. You were all lumped in the same basket.

I wouldn’t go back even if it were the last hot place on earth with a beach which didn’t have Coronavirus.

JaneMaster - I'm not sure where you assertion that swine flu was obviously not going to affect the UK. Wiki tells me that 128 people died in the UK and at its peak 110,000 new cases were diagnosed in a week.

for a few months until a vaccine is developed

18months actually, according to GSK

Meh, you risk fighting over noodles with your asthmatic daughter in tow if you want @Booboostwo

I walked round tesco today and got some bits and bobs. Some for now. Some for later. I didn't raid, I prefer scan and shop.

I just wanted to point out that according to the experts on radio 4 and 5 today a key difference between Corona and flu is that the population has zero immunity to corona (save for maybe a tiny tiny amount of oddballs).

For flu we have a mixture of vaccinated and immune people helping to slow and reduce the spread. We don't have this for corona.

So they feel that the spread is likely to be very different.

I know of a prison near me that was stock piling body bags when there was swine flu. Not everyone did get it. I think I knew someone whose sister got a mild dose.
It isn’t inevitable we are all going to get it. The press are getting us all in a frenzy. Many countries in Europe have had only one case and that was weeks ago, obviously it isn’t spreading like crazy.
There are reasons it spread so quickly in China, no containment, people living close to each other, poor hygiene etc.
I think we are having a bit of a post half term peak at the moment with cases.
Until people start passing it on to each other IN this country then I won’t panic.
Saying that I think it would be a good idea if people were told not to travel/socialise unnecessarily for a few weeks until it all passes.

Also I totally agree with the later that said that in the UK many many people will ignore the advice or rules about isolation.

We just don't tend to do what we are told for a combination of reasons. I'm undecided whether in general that's a good thing or not! In the case of Corona it isn't, but often we tend to be distrustful and feel we know better than the experts. This is made all the worse by the liars we have had running our country! Who is comfortable putting trust in our government, or even our front line services (like those who obediently stayed put in Grenfell).

A school local to me sent all pupils home who had been on a school ski trip over half term. They were supposed to be in isolation. At least sox of them have in fact been to Starbucks and the cinema today.

Poster not later!

I agree we shouldn’t get stressed about this as it’s not helpful, so although I agree with your thread title your actual post is quite alarming

I remember flying when SARS was a big thing.

We had to fill out special landing cards, the planes were sprayed with special disinfectant on landing, lots of people were wearing masks and you had to walk through special disinfectant when you got off the plane too. There was lots of panic around that too, and nothing came of it.

I remember similar hysteria with swine flu and bird flu. I think it's hard to take panic like this seriously when it's been seen so many times before, and nothing has come of it.

I don't really understand the immunity side of this disease, apparently they claim 20% of common cold viruses are 'a type' of coronavirus so is it not possible that some peoples immunity might recognise elements of this coronavirus and fight it off better than perhaps someone that is not often exposed to the common cold (those in warmer climates where the cold virus doesn't survive). Total shot in the dark there

PigsDoFly I know, my dog wouldn't be able to pick up a dead rat and run around with it. Actually. I might be these for non coronavirus reasons. 😂😂😂

Just waiting for the post “I have coronavirus but I need to go to work AIBU?”

Given its level of infectiousness apparently 60% of us will get it. Given the very fucked up state of my lungs and out very crap local hospital, I reckon I’m a goner if I get it.

I’m mid 50s and I’ve got 4 kids. Really really not resigned to the thought of dying yet.

I reckon I’m allowed to be a tad anxious.

Thankfully DH and the gang are all pictures of health so should be fine.

There was mass hysteria over HIV, Ebola and swine flu too.

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1413425

www.salon.com/2011/06/05/aids_hysteria/

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/381898/

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2913064/

Worth a watch for a Coronavirus laugh.