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"Only the elderly/immune suppressed are at risk" - attitude of dicks?

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SylvanianFrenemies · 27/02/2020 22:47

People who say not to worry about Coronavirus, because "Only the elderly/chronically ill/immune suppressed" are dicks.

Some of us fall into these categories. Some love people who fall into these categories. Some have some essence of humanity. Stop using "Only the xxx" to dismiss concerns. Stop conflating it with flu.

Wash your hands. Isolate yourself as required. Err on the side of caution.

YABU = I agree with these dicks.
YANBU = I am human.

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LuluJakey1 · 28/02/2020 18:04

Well it is true that the vast majority who suffer seriously and die with it will be the elderly or already immune compromised. That is simply a fact. I wouldn't not do the right things because of that- I don't want anyone to suffer and die.

HeIenaDove · 28/02/2020 18:22

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ineedsun · 28/02/2020 18:23

There is definitely an attitude from some people that those who are older, or who have health issues, are of less value

From who?

As far as I can see, people who aren't concerned about it, feel that way because they feel like the chances of contracting it are minimal because of safeguards that they and others have put in place.

Were we living in a high risk area, then I'd absolutely be concerned but we don't. That doesn't make me a dick or mean that I value those who are vulnerable any less than anyone else.

woodchuck99 · 28/02/2020 18:27

where on earth have you seen this? everything I've seen has said respiratory illness', including strains of coronavirus, are spread from airborne drops or touching ears/eyes/nose/ mouth etc after touching a contaminated surface.

The fact that is the usual form of transmission doesn't mean it couldn't infect people through cuts and abrasions on skin if they were to touch viral droplets.Have you seen anything that it is in highly unlikely that it could infect you through abrasions and skin. If you haven't I think that you were the one spreading false information when you say it is highly unlikely.

please dont try and prove a point by spreading information that is false, people don't need to be any more freaked out then they already are

Why would it freak people out ? I'm not "spreading information that is false" when I say that we don't know if this virus could infect people through abrasions.Hmm They think it could have been transmitted from animal to humans through skin abrasions and cuts after all. That certainly suggests it is a possibility.

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 18:41

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flower1994 · 28/02/2020 19:12

not really sure why my response to you was deleted lol but on that note I cannot even be bothered to get into a debate with you over whether I'm going to contract coronavirus through my cut hand or not. waste of time

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 19:13

but mumsnet will keep up posts that contain such out there false information which is far more dangerous then anything I said to you in response but okay

lljkk · 28/02/2020 19:19

being logical, it means that human civilisation will continue.
We all have to die of something sometime anyway. It's not like you can completely avoid death, only hope to delay.
Plus most people (is it 80%?) will get it fairly mildly. That is worth understanding.
The superspreaders may have been people who thought they couldn't have covid because they were only mildly ill.
that's worth understanding, too. Ifyou want folk to be responsible about being vigilant.

Folk getting emotional (panicked) about covid isn't going to improve a single thing. Strict quarantine for tiny risk is going to make people want to delay presenting or trying to pretend to be well to avoid the burden of quarantine. That strategy won't contain the disease, either. Middle of the road response is actually the only sensible one (imho).

woodchuck99 · 28/02/2020 19:22

but mumsnet will keep up posts that contain such out there false information which is far more dangerous then anything I said to you in response but okay

Perhaps read the talk guidelines and learn to argue without insulting people i.e. grow up

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 28/02/2020 19:55

you might want to follow your own advice woodchuck Grin

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 19:55

woodchuck99 the irony of you telling anyone to grow up. continue spreading your false information and debate with someone else because you obviously cannot handle being told the truth

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 19:59

cant even cope that the actual question is basically calling people dicks but you reported my comment for saying you were being an idiot, brilliant 😂

defaultusername · 28/02/2020 20:03

default I was prescribed it actually..I've already stated that. considering what its purpose is I'm very confused why this is something youd be questioning

You're saying your GP prescribed bacitracin cream for your hands, in the UK?

I'm not suggesting coronovirus would infect your hands. MRSA could, though, and an MRSA septicemia is more likely to kill you than COVID.

Hand washing is important. Maintaining your skin barrier is really important. You're not "extra hygienic" if you break you skin barrier by your own over washing, that's daft.

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 20:09

default mild form of it yes, I didnt pluck the word out of thin air lol Hmm

thank you for your concern but I'm going to stick with the advice and steps I'm currently taking, as I said washing my hands less isn't really an option with small children so I'm going to have to just hope the creams keep the irritation at bay

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 20:10

btw, I know a lot of people, particularly in winter who suffer with sensitive hands. I literally feel like you're making me out as if I have rabies

crosstalk · 28/02/2020 20:15

I am not panicking despite being in the older group. My daughter has asthma so I worry about her. I do worry about hospitals coping with beyond they do already, the medical teams themselves, food and medical supply chains going down, farmers not being able to crack on. People having to isolate themselves and there being no one to deliver food or medicines - and it certainly if it gets a grip won't just affect the elderly.

defaultusername · 28/02/2020 20:16

@flower1994 Lots of people do, yes. But they don't have delusions about being 'extra hygienic', or preferring to contribute to antibiotic resistance rather than being more sensible about hand washing. If you have proper OCD, or similar, then you have my sympathy, but please don't advocate washing your hands so that they gets cuts as normal, or desirable. It's certainly not.

Destroying your skin barrier won't help you, or anyone else, it's the best anti-microbial we have. Skin care is very important.

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 20:18

okay default please stop going on

mauvaisereputation · 28/02/2020 20:29

Do I want my mum and dad to die? No. Do I take comfort in the fact that coronavirus is very, very unlikely to kill my baby or my husband? Yes. I don't think that makes me evil, frankly. Obivously it's important to take precautions to stop the spread but I don't think that getting angry at people is a particularly productive way of doing this.

mauvaisereputation · 28/02/2020 20:32

I also don't think there are many people in the country who wouldn't be more aghast at the virus if it killed 15% of infected under-10s rather than 15% of infected over-80s. That's not to say that it's not worth taking the same precautions either way. But, rightly or wrongly (and yes, I think maybe it is wrong), it is going to affect the vast majority of people's reaction.

woodchuck99 · 28/02/2020 20:34

woodchuck99 the irony of you telling anyone to grow up. continue spreading your false information and debate with someone else because you obviously cannot handle being told the truth

LOL. Calling me names and accusing me of spreading false rumours rather than posting a single link to counter my argument is very childish. Why would I not be able to handle the truth? I have asked several times for you to post some evidence but you seem unable to do that so resort to insults instead. As I said one of the theories is that it was transmitted from animals to humans that way so it's not far-fetched to think it's a possibility for someone to be infected with coronavirus that way.

woodchuck99 · 28/02/2020 20:36

you might want to follow your own advice woodchuck

If you think I've insulted anyone why don't you report my posts?

flower1994 · 28/02/2020 20:37

woodchuck99 I am completely bored of you now, respiratory illness' are not spread through cut hands

JustInCaseCakeHappens · 28/02/2020 20:37

If you think I've insulted anyone why don't you report my posts?
what makes you think I haven't woodchuck?

Hugtheduggee · 28/02/2020 20:38

The good thing is the majority of the elderly (not the high risk in other categories though) are more likely to be retired, and have the option of self isolating a little easier than someone in their 30s with a full time job, kids to ferry about etc.

So if it does kick off properly here, I'll suggest that my parents self isolate for a few weeks/month or so whilst the worst spreads through the UK. So they could contain their risk if needed. Its why it's important to know who is at risk, so we can help them isolate themselves better if needed.