The 'Positive Mental Health' Corona virus thread

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There are a lot of posts of people worrying. I thought it could be helpful to share positive and assuring information in one thread.

For me, the most reassuring thing so far is the fact that of approx. 1500 people in the UK suspected to have and tested for CV have come back as negative.

Maybe have a look on Givewell? www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities

@BottomleyPottsSpots2 Remember when you're reading the latest headlines that the WHO is trying to clamp down on this because an outbreak in a developing country could be really nasty. We are trying to protect the vulnerable by bringing this under control. In a country such as ours it would be far less worrying.

I read this morning (sorry, can't find where to provide a link, but it was a reputable source,) that 80% of cases are very mild with just a dry cough and temperature and general lethargy. For the vast majority it really is just a case of feeling a bit grotty for a week.

And remember that all outbreaks of viruses peak and then tail off. It will tail off sooner or later which will give time for vaccines to be tested and produced in preparation for it rearing its head again.

I can remember when Dengue fever was going to kill us all, as well as causing everyone to have non-viable babies -- or was it Zika fever that was going to do that? They didn't. And CJD had everyone in a right old tizzy for a while, too.

To be fair, I am more worried by measles, which kills children and for which there is a vaccine people are refusing to give their children. Polio, ditto. Why do that, and when there is an antiviral or vaccine available to deal with Covid-19 and SARs will those same people refuse that as well?

Thanks SirVix

Re charity Red Cross are involved though China Red Cross are government controlled and reports of some money going astray. Singapore Red Cross is also helping China and says its supervising all the money it sends.

Lots of abandoned pets who are in apartments in Wuhan home alone with no food or water, around 30-50,000 - not sure best place to donate for that. I would maybe do Animals Asia which helps with animal welfare in China and takes donations in pounds. It does do other animal welfare causes though and doesn't seem a way of specifying coronavirus related but all are worthy causes.

help.animalsasia.org/page/33540/donate/1?supporter.NOT_TAGGED_5=en-GB

50,000 pets ?!? 😮 So are there 50,000 people in hospital ?

Lots of the pets will belong to people who travelled for new year then were unable to return.

This dropped off my list, so I’m glad to find you all again. I was relaxed about it after a lull, but now with the recent news in
Italy I’m back to sick with fear of it all.

I think a lot of people were away when Wuhan went into lockdown (they also announced it at 2am and public transport shut at 10am) and some got caught in other lockdowns, others fled minus pets when lockdown announced. Probably some in quarantine centres and hospitals too.

Sorry for lack of updates, I'm not really hunting down information anymore as I'm not obsessing about this now. I think the things that have influenced me to be able to move on are a mix of:

• Being busy, I have lots of work projects on the go, I'm self employed but getting out a lot and also socialising and still doing our usual family activities.

• Swine Flu. I'm remembering that it didn't have as big an impact as I expected it too, yet reading about it these days it was quite big yet fell out of the news and I can only remember 2 people who had it that I knew of.

• As time goes on we are getting closer and closer to better weather which I believe reduces the ability for bugs to grow, spread and survive due to the change in air temperature and humidity in the UK.

• Realising there will always be sensational headlines yet we can see from this thread that there is always another way to look at it and quite often, the positives are barely reported.

• Countries that are affected on a large scale are quick to bring in 'lock down' and for most of, the chances of being part of any cluster of growth if it happens in our country is still really small.

• The word 'pandemic' doesn't actually mean something as scary as it sounds. I always thought pandemic meant deadly, but it means widespread globally.

I hope everyone else can find their peace too and I'm not ruling out that I won't be back in a few days having let myself get sucked back in to worrying

Some time in the middle of last night I heard a news summary on the World Service in which someone was talking about a medication having been developed against the COVID-19 virus, which the person who had developed it had apparently taken four times with no side-effects, but I can't remember details (I wasn't paying attention when it started) and today I can't find it anywhere. I am fairly sure I didn't dream it!

(Is the BBC site the worst ever for finding anything on?)

That’s positive askingquestions

It would be better if I could find it and quote chapter and verse, though! The last I had heard before that was "it's going to take eighteen months, we are going to have to fight it with what we already have" so someone doing it that quickly would be fabulous -- but I don't know how reliable the report was if I can't locate the wretched thing.

I’ll take it as a glimmer of hope.

I heard on the radio a few weeks back they could get a vaccine by end of the summer which was fastest ever for a vaccine.

A positive is that all children in the UK (and I presume in Europe/USA too) are vaccinated against 13 types of Pneumonia - Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) - as part of their childhood immunisation.

Given that pneumonia is as I understand the main complication after contracting the virus, it has to be good news, no?

I think there are two types of pneumonia.

Bacteria and viral. The one this causes isn’t one that there is a treatment for.

@DobbyTheHouseElk - Interesting. What made me think this was that article

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime I read it too, it is a vaccination developed in China, a professor just took 4 doses. I guess this still need to be safely tested first, so it will take some time.

Newleafinspring, thank you very much. I was wondering about my own reliability.

The World Health Organisation didn't previously want to acknowledge any possible treatments but are now backing this drug Remdesivir as a possible treatment and results expected in weeks, they're already trialling on humans and first reports are showing it has improved patients conditions within one day. All sourced in this article, and others if you search.

www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/investing/gilead-sciences-coronavirus-who-remdesivir/index.html

This has made me feel better tonight. Thank you all.

Yes need this thread, keep em coming

Remdesivir is the Ebola drug , I would be very cautious about thinking of it as a solution, because it has some very serious side effects I think.
Also the vaccines for bacterial pneumonia have no effect on this because it is a viral pneumonia.
I really want some positive news to cling to, obviously, but our best hope is taking a lot of care in our daily lives at the moment, so that we minimise the spread.

Do you have a source for that everything I've read is in line with this:

"Clinical safety data:
Single dose of remdesivir IV infusion from 3 to 225 mg
was well tolerated with no dose limiting toxicity
observed. No treatment emergent AEs were observed
in more than 1 subject per arm. No evidence of renal
or liver toxicity was observed. All AEs were Grade 1 or
2.
Multiple-dose IV administration of remdesivir 150 mg
once-daily for 7 or 14 days was generally well
tolerated. No subjects had a Grade 3 or 4 treatment-
emergent laboratory abnormality during the study.
Reversible Grade 1 or 2 ALT or AST elevations were
observed in several subjects without abnormalities in
total bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase (ALP), or albumin.
There was no abnormality or clinically significant
change in international normalized ratio (INR) in any
subjects. Remdesivir did not show any effects on renal
function in the multiple-dose study."

Bold fail, will try again

Clinical safety data:
Single dose of remdesivir IV infusion from 3 to 225 mg
was well tolerated with no dose limiting toxicity observed. No treatment emergent AEs were observed
in more than 1 subject per arm. No evidence of renal
or liver toxicity was observed. All AEs were Grade 1 or
2.
Multiple-dose IV administration of remdesivir 150 mg
once-daily for 7 or 14 days was generally well
tolerated. No subjects had a Grade 3 or 4 treatment-
emergent laboratory abnormality during the study.
Reversible Grade 1 or 2 ALT or AST elevations were
observed in several subjects without abnormalities in
total bilirubin, alkaline phosphatase (ALP), or albumin.
There was no abnormality or clinically significant
change in international normalized ratio (INR) in any
subjects. Remdesivir did not show any effects on renal
function in the multiple-dose study.

OK would just like to highlight the parts between asterisks