To think that coronavirus has exposed a nasty undertone of racism?

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Now I’ll admit that I can’t be doing with all the hysteria surrounding this. People wanting colleagues to stay off work because they’ve been to china/wanting to keep their kids off school because one of them has been to china/wanting Brits to be kept in china lest they bring the virus home.

While there have been some deaths, in comparison to the numbers of those diagnosed these are small and have occurred in people who mostly had already underlying health conditions.

But I can’t help thinking what these attitudes are actually saying about people’s attitudes towards the Chinese.

Quite apart from the above, I’ve seen people express concern that a package sent from China two weeks ago might infect them, followed by advice to quarantine it for two weeks and then spray with anti-bac before opening.

Wondering i f it’s safe to go to the local Chinese in case someone working there has been in contact with someone from China.

And someone I know personally who is of Chinese origin but grew up in this country being told that they should keep out of circulation because they’re Chinese and therefore could be infectious.

A lot of this is of course hysterical paranoia, but it seems to be spreading, and it gives out a very nasty message imho.

And someone I know personally who is of Chinese origin but grew up in this country being told that they should keep out of circulation because they’re Chinese and therefore could be infectious.

Probably a fictitious anecdote.

I think there is a racial event OP, but tbf wasn’t the UK ostracised during the mad cow disease epidemic?

Indeed. Brits still aren't allowed to give blood in many countries. Racist bastards

YABU, OP. Irrational? Maybe. Racist? No. That's not to say that some racists aren't using this as an excuse to be more openly racist, but I don't think that's true of the majority.

I made the mistake of reading the comment section on an article about the virus in the New Zealand Herald today. If any of you think that people are not being racist - take a read. The Herald have commented that they are deleting all racist posts but are struggling to keep up. Humanity at its best.

My own dd told me I was being racist earlier after I expressed concern that her close friends dad is in China at the moment (they’re Chinese) and I was wondering if he will be checked/quarantined when he comes back. I asked her would I be racist if her friends family were English? Of course not! I’m concerned about the virus spreading as people travel back from China - I don’t give a shit what ethnicity they are!

Highton oh fuck off dear. I KNEW you'd bring up british abattoirs. Even the lowest conditions here for animal welfare don't match to what they do in China. They boil and skin animals alive and do the most horrific things to animals. Anyone who supports or even takes part in those practices is NOT a civilised human being.

My kids are half Chinese but have never set foot in China. One of their teachers has been in China this month and is due back soon. I voiced concern with other parents about the teacher coming back to teach next month (if she can get a flight..)
Is this racist? No. Hysteria, maybe. I'd have asked the same question had the teacher been Norwegian and on holiday in China. It wouldn't make me racist towards Norwegians.
The general feeling is a bit like the fear provaxxers have towards unvaxxed kids, who they believe carry and spread all the diseases all of the time....even if they've never had a disease in their life and are in perfect health. 😂

The BBC and several national newspapers have run with:

"Boarding schools warn against virus 'xenophobia'"
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51272257

But the guidance notice is here - bit over the top to call it a 'warning' - very far down the page of advice;

boarding.org.uk/media/news/article/13293/BSA-Novel-Coronavirus-guidance-update-27-1-20

"A spokesman for the association said this was a pre-emptive move against "xenophobia", rather than a response to a problem that had occurred."

"We are trying to make sure we are covering every eventuality."

Have you seen all those Chinese people wearing masks in China. Disgusting racist behaviour towards other Chinese people.

Bigots!

I saw loads of Chinese people wearing masks in York last week.

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That is the same racist bs that @ponoka7 was spouting so I will ask you the same question please site a reputable source

Everyone knows how some animals are treated in China, not isolated cases but as a cultural thing. It seems to be accepted that this shit started in a seafood market.

Bolloxing about asking for evidence makes you look bloody silly.

Look on the internet and if you have evidence that it isn't true, how about you produce it?

Yes there are some atrocious treatment of animals in china however all the racist bs about skinning and boiling dogs alive is very offensive and needs to be called out

They boil and skin animals alive

Lobsters are boiled alive.

They do some horrifying things to animals and it isn't racist to point it out. It should be pointed out all day bloody long.

It might not be a palatable fact but it is a fact.

Oh well then, that makes their behaviour perfectly acceptable.

I am not disagreeing with you about the treatment of animals or the need to call it out however they do not boil or skin dogs alive !
If you want to call a country out for its behaviour try and do it for something that they do instead of racist bs

Oh well then, that makes their behaviour perfectly acceptable.

Did I say that? No.

You certainly implied it, even if that wasn't your intention.

Sars, Asian Flu and now this...all connected to the way they treat animals.

Is that racist. No it isn't. It's a fact and if your or anyone's idea of racism is to say anything bad about someone from another race then that is just poppycock.

Other people from other races can be cunts-sometimes whole bleeding swathes of them, just like the British.

Those Chinese people who treat animals cruelly are cunts. Just like people here who maltreat animals. The main difference is their practice unleashes this shit on the world...eating live fucking bats for the love of God.

You certainly implied it, even if that wasn't your intention.

No I didn't, not in the slightest. You're just making that up.
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Yes there are some atrocious treatment of animals in china

All this concern about the animals. China doesn’t even treat humans like humans. Please read up about how they have Uiger Muslims locked up in Chinese concentration camps trying to change their religion. They are doing all kind of atrocious experiments on these people and mass killing them, just like the holocaust. They are harvesting their organs and selling them to Saudi Arabia as “halal” organs.

So fuck the Chinese government. Disgusting human rights violations that the world is ignoring because they have money.

I’m glad this corona virus will open people’s eyes to the Chinese government, and put pressure on them to close the concentration camps and leave the Uigers alone whilst the whole world’s eyes is on them.

Stressedout10 has agreed that there is animal cruelty but she has repeatedly asked you to provide a reputable source for your claim about the dogs. You've just ignored that request. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have no idea one way or the other.

Let Stressed Out provide evidence that it doesn't: who cares what she thinks!

Go on YouTube and search China Dog Treatment and you'll see plenty you wished you hadn't.

Even Channel 4, some 30 odd years ago, made a documentary showing dogs and cats being thrown into culdrons of boiling water, having first been skinned alive. It's a memory I have not been able to erase. There's reams and reams of footage on the net nowadays. Some dogs are blowtorched while alive. Bears in both China and Vietnam have a paw cut off (soup) while imprisoned for bile extraction. The resultant adrenaline caused by extreme pain is said to improve the taste of the meat. That's why they torture before death.
Bats and other exotic animals were being sold, live, in Wuhan warm meat market. Why warm meat? It's because little if any refrigeration is used and the slaughter houses are close to point of sale for pork etc. If NOTHING ELSE bats are known to carry rabies, which is endemic in China. Such places are melting pots of human, domestic, and wild animal viruses.

it's not racist. It's a crazy overreaction but nothing to do with racism. It is revealing that many people don't know the meaning of the word.

Stressed out and Soup Dragon: I wimped out of posting links re proof of dogs (and cats and other animals) being cooked alive. Not because there isn't any proof, but because there's too much. I support organisations that try to stop the trade, but I cannot look at the images again. I'm beginning to become very depressed and upset about the state of - well everything really, and for my own mental health this evening, you'll have to look for yourselves. Two minutes on Google should suffice. For me, an image of a golden retriever held down while legs being sawn off would push me over the edge right now. You can decide not to look and carry on calling people racist, I don't blame you. It's easier and kinder for your mental well-being.