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Conflict in the Middle East

Iranian clerics call for assassination of Trump and Netanyahu

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Twiglets1 · 30/06/2026 20:42

Article in The Telegraph reports that Iran’s most senior clerics have called for the assassination of Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu.

In a 10-point statement, the Assembly of Experts said the killing of “the criminal American president” and “the wicked prime minister of the Zionist regime” was a religious duty.

Assassinating the two leaders – whom they described as mahdour al-dam, or deserving of death – “must not be neglected under any circumstances”.

In their call for Mr Trump and Mr Netanyahu to be assassinated, the clerics wrote that avenging the blood of Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader who was killed on the first day of the war, remained “paramount”.

“It is obligatory upon any duty-bound person who gains access to these criminals to send them to hell,” they added.

The language read like a religious edict but stopped short of a formal fatwa, which in Shia Islam is issued by an individual cleric in his own name rather than by a group.

The Assembly of Experts is an 88-member body of clerics constitutionally tasked with choosing and supervising the supreme leader.

The statement shows how fractured the establishment has become.

Only about 63 of the body’s members signed it, and the Assembly’s secretariat distanced itself hours later.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/06/30/iranian-clerics-call-for-trump-assassination/

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Squidward2026 · 01/07/2026 17:12

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 06:31

Do you agree then with assassinations of other world leaders that have done things many consider criminal? There will be quite a few of them. Putin for one but many others of course.

What if Trump decided to assassinate world leaders he considers to be criminal?

Would people be saying, to be fair .... or would they be saying who does he think he is to call for the assassination of other countries leaders?

OP... Trump has already ordered the killing of the Iranian leader which happened...and some of his family died in those strikes too.

Its also been clarified that a whole school of Iranian kids were killed in a US airstrike specifically because Trump didn't use up to date maps - which he would have known about if he'd worked with decent military experts instead of Hegseth and that frat bro crowd.

He also kidnapped and imprisoned the Venezuelan leader and his wife.

What other response would you think he'd get?

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:16

BunfightBetty · 01/07/2026 16:56

I don't get the mentality that it's impossible to give an opinion about something without there always having to be something in opposition to the topic at hand. Like that's the only lens you have to view things through - X is doing something bad - well yeah, not as bad as/just at the same as Y.

Like you can't mention anything bad that Labour are doing without some bright spark piping up about 'well what about the Tories?' Well yeah, they were shit too, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't look at how shit Labour are being - they're the ones in power right now!

Or when Hamas carry out an atrocity - well what about Israel?

Over and over again. So tedious.

The lack of ability to appraise something on its own merits is curious.

Nobody thinks that loss of life is ok. But it comes across as if posters think one side is better than the other when they do the whataboutery. They want us to shift attention from the first thing to the second (though the same posters complain bitterly when others do that to them).

The whataboutery I guess is some sort of defensiveness? But who on earth thinks these idiots in Iran are worth defending? And why on earth would you assume that anyone who raises concern about death threat to a leader must approve of that leader?

It's so childlike that it's hard to debate with rationally. Maybe that's the aim.

TBF, there is not a lot to discuss re Iranian clerics calling for the death of Trump and Netanyahu. I can't find much about it on my web.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:17

CagedBirdInACage · 01/07/2026 17:04

Probably because people aren't as obsessed with Israel as some posters would like to portray, bad people do bad things everywhere, you'd be here all day if you started threads about them all especially something like so and so said x, y or z, it's small fry compared to the actual atrocities that happen.

Probably because people aren't as obsessed with Israel as some posters would like to portray is so blatantly false if you look at the number of anti Israel posts on this board that it's laughable.

Every thread on here gets turned into Israel bashing - quite apart from the threads wholly dedicated to "the reality of what Israel is doing" (now on part 7). Note that there are zero threads on the reality of what Iran is doing. And it's not for lack of material considering there is the IRGC and also their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah.

Case in point -this thread. It's about the Iranian clerics but look who is getting most of the criticism. Same old, same old.

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BunfightBetty · 01/07/2026 17:21

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:06

Well, as the conversation is opening up a bit, it might be worth mentioning US evangelical Scott Lively and his Pastor pals who were instrumental in Uganda passing the death sentence as punishment for being gay.

The Role of US Evangelicals in Radicalizing Ugandans Against LGBTQ Rights — History News Network (hnn.us)

As for Pastors in the US, there are hundreds of them who call for LGBTQ folk to be executed. Example here:

Tennessee preacher-cop calls for execution of LGBTQ people | CNN

Authorities in Tennessee are reviewing all pending cases involving a Knox County Sheriff’s Office detective after he gave a sermon at his church that called for the government to execute members of the LGBTQ community.

“They are worthy of death,” Grayson Fritts said in a June 2 sermon at All Scripture Baptist Church, a small church in Knoxville that he leads.

A lot of these religious folk really do appear keen on killing.

Who on the thread has waded in saying that US pastors and their idiocy are a good thing?

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:24

Squidward2026 · 01/07/2026 17:12

OP... Trump has already ordered the killing of the Iranian leader which happened...and some of his family died in those strikes too.

Its also been clarified that a whole school of Iranian kids were killed in a US airstrike specifically because Trump didn't use up to date maps - which he would have known about if he'd worked with decent military experts instead of Hegseth and that frat bro crowd.

He also kidnapped and imprisoned the Venezuelan leader and his wife.

What other response would you think he'd get?

Are you seriously blaming Trump personally for the maps not being up to date?

It's just more whataboutery anyway.

Iranian clerics calling for assassinations ... nothing to see here!

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JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:25

I think the point being made is that just because you are supposedly “religious”, it doesn’t stop you from making death threats. Across the board.

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:27

And Israel making them too don’t forget.

Eyesopenwideawake · 01/07/2026 17:27

@Twiglets1 Talk to the parents of the dozens of men who've been blown up on boats in the Caribbean – no trial, just an assumption of wrong doing leading to summary execution – about whether Trump is a murderer.

Why are you so excised about words but not about deeds?

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:28

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:17

Probably because people aren't as obsessed with Israel as some posters would like to portray is so blatantly false if you look at the number of anti Israel posts on this board that it's laughable.

Every thread on here gets turned into Israel bashing - quite apart from the threads wholly dedicated to "the reality of what Israel is doing" (now on part 7). Note that there are zero threads on the reality of what Iran is doing. And it's not for lack of material considering there is the IRGC and also their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah.

Case in point -this thread. It's about the Iranian clerics but look who is getting most of the criticism. Same old, same old.

I think most people agree on Iran though, that the leadership is horrendous and the Iranian people all have our sympathy.

Israel (not the citizens) imo pretend to be some beacon of peace and good morals but they are not.

I personally understand Hamas and Hezbollah are a huge problem and are evil evil bastards, and totally get why Israel want’s rid of them (as should the rest of the world)
People are angry with what Israel have done to Gaza, what the “settlers” are allowed to get away with in the West Bank and now whats happened in Lebanon. Netanyahu is a blood thirsty criminal who doesn’t give a shit about international laws or the lives of innocent civilians, they should be better than a terrorist group, but they are not really are they? (IMO)

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:30

BunfightBetty · 01/07/2026 17:21

Who on the thread has waded in saying that US pastors and their idiocy are a good thing?

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Nobody. And I don't think anyone has said Iranian clerics calling for death is good.

The conversation is just opening up I think. Into general religious of today calling for people to be killed.

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:31

Israel have been brought into it because Katz made a retaliatory death threat to the Iranian leader. Or are you going to ignore that small problem?

Tel12 · 01/07/2026 17:33

I think that this illustrates the dilemma when international norms are abandoned.

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:37

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

I haven’t seen anyone say that? Just that they won’t care when they die

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:37

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:31

Israel have been brought into it because Katz made a retaliatory death threat to the Iranian leader. Or are you going to ignore that small problem?

I wasn't even aware of it when I started the thread but after you raised it I agreed that Katz was very wrong to make a retaliatory death threat. It could be harmful to the peace process in a similar way that the Iranian clerics call for assassination could be harmful to the peace process.

I haven't ignored the mention of Katz so why are you implying I'm trying to ignore it?

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RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:38

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:25

I think the point being made is that just because you are supposedly “religious”, it doesn’t stop you from making death threats. Across the board.

That's for sure.

It's the basic premise of so many religions. Christianity is based on they go up, others burn in hell.

When Evangelical Christians in mega churches pray for the Rapture, they are essentially praying for all non Christians to be killed. Just today on these boards I had a Christian tell me I would likely burn.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:38

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:37

I haven’t seen anyone say that? Just that they won’t care when they die

I think by saying you won't care if they get assassinated it follows that you don't have a problem with it.

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Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:40

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:38

I think by saying you won't care if they get assassinated it follows that you don't have a problem with it.

I said people won’t care when they die, nothing about assassination.

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

Bunnyofhope · 01/07/2026 17:34

Are people on this thread really saying they would support the assassination of the leaders of two of our closest allies? And the only two of our allies who would have the skills or resources to support us if the UK was threatened? Fuck sake, talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

They don't seem to give a shit do they? The US and Israel are enemies not allies to many on this board and you see that across every thread.

You get a wider range of views on other boards so I'm guessing you don't come to this Conflict in the Middle East one very often.

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Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:40

I said people won’t care when they die, nothing about assassination.

But this thread is about them being assassinated not dying peacefully in their sleep.

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Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 17:44

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 16:15

I looked it up, and Iranian clerics have been saying these things for years. I am not saying it should be ignored. But they seem to not be very good at it.

And yes, I know the 20 Iranian terror plots uncovered in the UK was about them wanting to kill dissidents. But that was the Iranian Government so far as I am aware. Not clerics. And the plots were foiled.

And yes, I know about Salman Rushdie too. That was Khomeini.

But here we are talking about POTUS and the Israeli pm.

I don’t know an awful lot about Iranian clerics but my understanding is that only hardline loyalists get elected and the reformist/ moderate clerics are vetted out. It would make sense that the rhetoric would reflect the make up of the assembly.

I suppose it is effectively a mouthpiece of the state but they can say things that would be controversial for the government to openly state. Plausible deniability whilst still getting your message across.

Rothburypixie · 01/07/2026 17:46

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:43

But this thread is about them being assassinated not dying peacefully in their sleep.

Oh please 😂

JadeHare · 01/07/2026 17:46

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 17:37

I wasn't even aware of it when I started the thread but after you raised it I agreed that Katz was very wrong to make a retaliatory death threat. It could be harmful to the peace process in a similar way that the Iranian clerics call for assassination could be harmful to the peace process.

I haven't ignored the mention of Katz so why are you implying I'm trying to ignore it?

Because you have now tried to imply that this thread has descended into an Israel bashing thread. It’s not bashing Israel when Israel are now equally involved in making threats.

Qualitypinnacle · 01/07/2026 17:47

Twiglets1 · 01/07/2026 06:31

Do you agree then with assassinations of other world leaders that have done things many consider criminal? There will be quite a few of them. Putin for one but many others of course.

What if Trump decided to assassinate world leaders he considers to be criminal?

Would people be saying, to be fair .... or would they be saying who does he think he is to call for the assassination of other countries leaders?

He has!

RedTagAlan · 01/07/2026 17:48

Secretseverywhere · 01/07/2026 17:44

I don’t know an awful lot about Iranian clerics but my understanding is that only hardline loyalists get elected and the reformist/ moderate clerics are vetted out. It would make sense that the rhetoric would reflect the make up of the assembly.

I suppose it is effectively a mouthpiece of the state but they can say things that would be controversial for the government to openly state. Plausible deniability whilst still getting your message across.

Well they are a theocracy. Everything they do is supposed to be about their religion.

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