Trump sowing mistrust amongst the remains of the Iranian leadership....

[mids2019]

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603234812

Insightful article into Trumps thinking. He is trying to spread paranoia amongst the Iranian leadership by making them believe there is a traitor in their midst who wishes to sell them out.....as well as calming markets.

Surely anyone who breathes knows he’s a liar. They are better off believing whatever Putin tells them.

I think he’s just making himself look like a tit.

Shadow diplomacy as if Trump is playing some kind of 4D chess 😂

Also Trump’s thinking? I’ve never seen any proof of it, and it’s always a bad idea to mix “believing in things you can’t prove” and “politics.”

Most people think he's lying.

He has a history of claiming to have been in negotiations with countries when he hasn't.

Most likely it's an invitation to Iran to help him form an exit strategy and save face.

Or he’s puffing up the markets with the idea of peace so sll his cronies who bought the dip can sell.

I think the Iranians will see through this in an instant.

Love the fact anyone can think Trump has a strategy and he's not just spewing out whatever rotting vegetable matter is in his fluffy orange head.

Oh FFS.🙄
Does anyone believe this shit?

I don't think it's a lie but a version of the truth. There are obviously negotiations going on through intermediaries with a fractured Iranian leadership. The danger members of the Iranian regime want an off ramp and are prepared to talk but are they in concert with the hard line elements. I think it may be encouraging that negotiations in some form are happening as it shows there are elements in Iran that the war is obviously bad for Iran.

It will be interesting to see if the Iranian parliamentary speaker is assassinated for treason though given the chaos within Iran.

Trump is sweating....

The thing is, Trump has been hoist by his own petard, with the Strait of Hormuz, energy and oil prices are shooting up, and he doesn't know what to do, except lie. ( And thus it always was).

Everone knows that Trump is lying, particularly the Iranians. The official statement from the Iranian supreme leader has confirmed that there has been no communication. They also set out their terms in the statement.

the supreme leaders no one heads speak or hears?

I do think there is a point that if a demoralised IGRC's leadership is attempting to sell them out they may be more likely to defect. I think there were negotiations with some one and whether Trump was wise to make this side open is up to question but it now looks like the Iranians are not the ones wanting peace.

I think an interesting question is why the Iranians don't want peace and what do they hope to gain going forward?

We really do not know how fractured or not fractured the Iranian leadership is, do we?
I thought they would use the break to try to locate the new leaders, as things like his statements could trigger them to start communicating more openly, through more channels, so given the US and Israel intel a chance to locate them. For starters.
Are the Iranians going to fall for any of it?
Nope.

Do you mind saying which are the terms? Roughly. I have not seen the statement.

There is a lot of noise regarding likely insider movements in the markets. Pointing it to Trump and his family profitteting from this.
If proven ( easy enough, you only have to follow the millions) then he will be in the deepest self digged grave of all times!

There is consensus among officials on continuing the war,” IRGC-affiliated outlet Sabereen News said, denying reports that Ghalibaf held talks with the US as a plot to sow division among Iranian officials, tarnish his image, and provoke his reaction to target him.
https://iranintl.com/en/202603236278

What I have heard is roughly:
US to pull out of the gulf
Lifting of sanctions on Iran
Reparations for all the damage caused

I can't see the US agreeing to those things...

Trump could be lying.

However, it's just as likely the Iranian supreme leader is lying, if he's even still alive. He's still conspicuous by his absence in person, which is strange for a new leader.

The IRGC could be lying ... none of us know.

The Iranian President said they wouldn't bomb their neighbours and minutes later Iran bombed their neighbours. There is every possibility that Trump thinks he's talking to a leader but the Iranian regime don't give a toss about whatever negotiations some guy is doing. The IRGG are in charge. Trump doesn't even know who he is talking to. He is just desperate to get out of a situation he was bounced into by Netenyahu, and has shown himself to be completely without a clue, and probably suffering from some kind of cognitive decline.

Do they mean for US to remove their bases in the Gulf for good? Or to remove their ships? If it is the bases, nope I do not see that happening.
The other terms do not sound that crazy to me, taking into account they are the attacked party.
It is something they can negotiate.

Sadly, it looks like a case of not being able to believe either Trump (not the US military or civil service) or the Iranian state (in any and all respects). So I’d take most of the claims from Trump himself or from Iran with a bucket of salt.

The only realistic option for the US is to continue to support Israel and carry on with military action against the Iranian state until there’s a suitable degree of capitulation by Iran or the US runs out of ammunition.

We will all suffer from the oil market effects. But that’s temporary and can be cushioned. The longer-term benefits for the people of Iran and for the world from a deposed or thoroughly crushed Iranian terrorist state are far, far greater.

They mean for the US to remove their bases completely from the Persian Gulf.

All of the aggression against Iran have been launched or supported from these bases.

An image of the known bases close to Iran.

Imagine if China or Russia built bases in Mexico or Canada? Would America accept that? Never, remember the Cuban missile crisis in the 1960s where America nearly went to nuclear war over the Soviet Union puttung missiles in Cuba.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-10/guide-to-us-bases-surrounding-iran-in-the-middle-east/11855542

The sentiment amongst a lot of ordinary people who've been affected by the "Global War on Terror" that has killed and displaced millions is time for "Yankee, Go home".

It seems that there has been indirect communication between the US & Tehran via intermediaries like Pakistan, rather than direct talks.

Peace talks may go ahead in Pakistan over the next few days. But it’s unclear at the moment whether Iran will send someone or not.

What @BelleHathor said above.🙂
There may also have been something about oil trading being done in Yuan rather than $ going forwards. Did you hear anything about this @BelleHathor. It is what is being done currently.
Iran are clearly trying to remove US influence, not just from the region but also weaken the $ hegemony.

It will be a bit of a sticky point. But at least it sounds like someone is going to meet someone, to talk about something, in some country.

(Vance and Iranian reps, in Islamabad possibly. At least, let's hope so!)

I never liked the presence of other countries bases in any soil. I get that. I never liked the ones set on Europe after World War II.