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Conflict in the Middle East

Iran strikes Palestinians

44 replies

mids2019 · 19/03/2026 06:32

This will confuse the pro Palestnians

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/19/three-palestinian-women-killed-during-iranian-missile-attack-in-west-bank

Do people somehow use some sort of distorted logic and blame Israel for these deaths? Do the deaths of Palestinians get added to the 'genocide' count or as this is Iran the deaths will be glossed over as tragic collateral damage.

Nothing to see here from the hate marchers I guess.......

Three Palestinian women killed during Iranian missile attack in West Bank

Three Palestinian women killed during Iranian missile attack in West Bank

Women killed, 13 injured when debris from a missile, or possibly a cluster bomblet, hit a beauty salon near Hebron.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/19/three-palestinian-women-killed-during-iranian-missile-attack-in-west-bank

OP posts:
Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 12:41

Sorry @mids2019 but it appears that no one cares about Palestinians killed by Iranians. Not enough to comment anyway.

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 12:43

No surprise there's been tumbleweed.

I think even if this turns out to look like a mistake, if you get much response on this board at all it will look very different to the response to the US mistakenly striking the girl's school in Tehran.

Erin1975 · 19/03/2026 12:47

Iran didn't kill the Gazans - at least not deliberately.

The missle was headed for Israel. It was shot down and debris landed on some people. That it landed on people in Gaza was an unfortunate accident.

notimagain · 19/03/2026 12:54

It didn't land in Gaza...

..and no it's not an accident, and it's not the Israeli's fault either....intercepted or not these weapons have a failure rate, so if you shoot it, you own the results, wherever it lands..

BTW the Israeli civilian population have been on the receiving end of cluster munitions delivered by Iranian missiles for several days if not weeks now, yet not a gripe from the usual suspects about use of said munitions..

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 13:26

Erin1975 · 19/03/2026 12:47

Iran didn't kill the Gazans - at least not deliberately.

The missle was headed for Israel. It was shot down and debris landed on some people. That it landed on people in Gaza was an unfortunate accident.

I thought that would probably be the case.

Still Iran's fault for firing it, the fact they were targeting other people they harbour racist hatred towards doesn't make it better.

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 13:47

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 12:41

Sorry @mids2019 but it appears that no one cares about Palestinians killed by Iranians. Not enough to comment anyway.

Who are you directing this goady post at? Do you honestly believe what you are saying here or just after a bun fight?

I would hope and believe the majority of people care about the loss of civilian life regardless of who those civilians are or who has killed them. Disappointing that the OP chose to start a thread about loss of life with a goady question such as this:
Do people somehow use some sort of distorted logic and blame Israel for these deaths?

I'm not surprised no one wanted to contribute to their thread when the motivation for it seems to have nothing to do with concern for Palestinians killed. Shameful

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 14:25

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 13:47

Who are you directing this goady post at? Do you honestly believe what you are saying here or just after a bun fight?

I would hope and believe the majority of people care about the loss of civilian life regardless of who those civilians are or who has killed them. Disappointing that the OP chose to start a thread about loss of life with a goady question such as this:
Do people somehow use some sort of distorted logic and blame Israel for these deaths?

I'm not surprised no one wanted to contribute to their thread when the motivation for it seems to have nothing to do with concern for Palestinians killed. Shameful

This x1000. The goady posters clearly don't give a shite about Palestinians, can't even bring themselves to give them a 'war is awful but' speech. The majority of pro Palestinians are anti this war(and war in general) and anti all of the killing and destruction that has gone along with it. They get mocked and called supporters of the Iranian regime for that stance, get it in the neck for not marking 3 specific deaths out of the over 1000 civillian deaths so far, who can be arsed? It's obvious that some just want to use this awful war for their own purposes and I'm fucked if I'm feeding into that.

Every innocent life lost is a tragedy and the sooner all of these war mongering arseholes either blow each other up or are imprisoned the better off we will all be.

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:29

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 13:47

Who are you directing this goady post at? Do you honestly believe what you are saying here or just after a bun fight?

I would hope and believe the majority of people care about the loss of civilian life regardless of who those civilians are or who has killed them. Disappointing that the OP chose to start a thread about loss of life with a goady question such as this:
Do people somehow use some sort of distorted logic and blame Israel for these deaths?

I'm not surprised no one wanted to contribute to their thread when the motivation for it seems to have nothing to do with concern for Palestinians killed. Shameful

I can't speak for the OP, but I raised a wry eyebrow as I read your post, as it so encapsulates what, to my mind, the OP may have been alluding to with hers.

I note your use of the word 'shameful'. Such scolding and attempts to shame - often with marked use of hyperbole, and straight away from first post, as you have done - is a notable and consistent feature of this board. It often appears to serve as a means to shut down wider debate, and as a deflection solely into emoting and away from clear thinking.

If you frequent these boards - and if you are able to take a clear-eyed, unbiased view of the general flavour of many of the posts on it - you will know very well that there is a heavy slant towards decrying any action of Israel and the US, often with very emotive language and heavy one-sided bias, with little balance. Whereas where there are atrocities committed by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis or Iran, the response is singularly muted in comparison.

I have seen over and over again reams of posts that fail to address reasonable questions like 'what other ways do you think Israel could use to defend its citizens?' and that instead default to emotive shouting that often amounts to nothing more than "but... but.... what about DEAD BABIES. People are DYING." As if nobody other than those who are heavily biased against Israel cares about the human suffering.

Yet these posters have been relatively quiet about the thousands of Iranians killed by the regime, or Israelis killed by Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran.

If the majority of posters on here were really concerned about people suffering and dying, we'd expect to see a consistent approach, no matter which people are suffering. Yet that isn't what we see, is it? What we see is some people's lives being valued more than others - exactly what those same posters accuse Israel and the US of doing.

Being confronted with an invitation to examine one's own bias is uncomfortable - so much so that most people push it away, rather than having the courage to actually enquire within. I expect I'll just get replies telling me to be ashamed.

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:30

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 14:25

This x1000. The goady posters clearly don't give a shite about Palestinians, can't even bring themselves to give them a 'war is awful but' speech. The majority of pro Palestinians are anti this war(and war in general) and anti all of the killing and destruction that has gone along with it. They get mocked and called supporters of the Iranian regime for that stance, get it in the neck for not marking 3 specific deaths out of the over 1000 civillian deaths so far, who can be arsed? It's obvious that some just want to use this awful war for their own purposes and I'm fucked if I'm feeding into that.

Every innocent life lost is a tragedy and the sooner all of these war mongering arseholes either blow each other up or are imprisoned the better off we will all be.

Another case in point.

Just to let you know - caring about Israelis doesn't mean we don't care just as much about Palestinians. Some of us are capable of empathy no matter who's suffering.

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:38

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:29

I can't speak for the OP, but I raised a wry eyebrow as I read your post, as it so encapsulates what, to my mind, the OP may have been alluding to with hers.

I note your use of the word 'shameful'. Such scolding and attempts to shame - often with marked use of hyperbole, and straight away from first post, as you have done - is a notable and consistent feature of this board. It often appears to serve as a means to shut down wider debate, and as a deflection solely into emoting and away from clear thinking.

If you frequent these boards - and if you are able to take a clear-eyed, unbiased view of the general flavour of many of the posts on it - you will know very well that there is a heavy slant towards decrying any action of Israel and the US, often with very emotive language and heavy one-sided bias, with little balance. Whereas where there are atrocities committed by Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis or Iran, the response is singularly muted in comparison.

I have seen over and over again reams of posts that fail to address reasonable questions like 'what other ways do you think Israel could use to defend its citizens?' and that instead default to emotive shouting that often amounts to nothing more than "but... but.... what about DEAD BABIES. People are DYING." As if nobody other than those who are heavily biased against Israel cares about the human suffering.

Yet these posters have been relatively quiet about the thousands of Iranians killed by the regime, or Israelis killed by Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran.

If the majority of posters on here were really concerned about people suffering and dying, we'd expect to see a consistent approach, no matter which people are suffering. Yet that isn't what we see, is it? What we see is some people's lives being valued more than others - exactly what those same posters accuse Israel and the US of doing.

Being confronted with an invitation to examine one's own bias is uncomfortable - so much so that most people push it away, rather than having the courage to actually enquire within. I expect I'll just get replies telling me to be ashamed.

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No idea why the essay was needed. I'm very familiar with the OP and I am confident with my view on their motivation for the thread and stand by my comment.

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:39

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:30

Another case in point.

Just to let you know - caring about Israelis doesn't mean we don't care just as much about Palestinians. Some of us are capable of empathy no matter who's suffering.

Some of us are capable of empathy no matter who's suffering.
Yeah that first post was full of empathy....

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:51

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:38

No idea why the essay was needed. I'm very familiar with the OP and I am confident with my view on their motivation for the thread and stand by my comment.

Thank you for your feedback on the length of my post. It's generally considered that each poster gets to decide on the length of their own posts, and that it's not for individual posters to police how other users choose to express themselves.

My post was both about the particular observation from the OP and my experience of reading and posting on this board over a timeframe of well over two years now.

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 14:54

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:39

Some of us are capable of empathy no matter who's suffering.
Yeah that first post was full of empathy....

How much detail do you want each poster to go into? You've just made a snide comment about my post being lengthy. Yet here you also make a demand for the OP to lengthen her post so that she can demonstrate her own empathy to you to your satisfaction, even though the point of her post isn't really about that.

So which is it? As on the face of it, it feels like you're just trying to point-score against people you've identified as opponents, rather than engage with the actual detail of the posts or have any meaningful exchange of ideas.

inamarina · 19/03/2026 15:12

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:38

No idea why the essay was needed. I'm very familiar with the OP and I am confident with my view on their motivation for the thread and stand by my comment.

PP has a point though.

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 15:22

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 14:39

Some of us are capable of empathy no matter who's suffering.
Yeah that first post was full of empathy....

People can read for themselves and see exactly what the first few posters were doing.

I've noticed lately that the more you let pro war posters on this board bluster on unchecked the more they reveal about themselves and their motivations to everyone reading.

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 15:29

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 15:22

People can read for themselves and see exactly what the first few posters were doing.

I've noticed lately that the more you let pro war posters on this board bluster on unchecked the more they reveal about themselves and their motivations to everyone reading.

People can see for themselves the lack of interest in discussing this actual topic as raised by OP.

BunfightBetty · 19/03/2026 15:29

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 15:22

People can read for themselves and see exactly what the first few posters were doing.

I've noticed lately that the more you let pro war posters on this board bluster on unchecked the more they reveal about themselves and their motivations to everyone reading.

Most people read through the lens of their own bias, as you are doing here.

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 15:35

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 15:29

People can see for themselves the lack of interest in discussing this actual topic as raised by OP.

Yes, the topic of 'hate marchers' is quite tíred at this point, doesn't quite pull in the crowds like it used to.

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 15:39

FloralDeerPattern · 19/03/2026 15:35

Yes, the topic of 'hate marchers' is quite tíred at this point, doesn't quite pull in the crowds like it used to.

No idea what you're on about.

JaneJeffer · 19/03/2026 15:44

Mumsnet should not allow goady threads like this. Whatever happened to Justine’s vow to make it a more pleasant site to visit I wonder?

Martymcfly24 · 19/03/2026 15:56

JaneJeffer · 19/03/2026 15:44

Mumsnet should not allow goady threads like this. Whatever happened to Justine’s vow to make it a more pleasant site to visit I wonder?

Agree. It completely cheapens any hope of dialogue and discussion when it's just used to sow division. Seems to be a common theme. Start a thread with a pro Pally jibe and usual goady stance which is thus ignored by most because it is clearly not in good faith. Then the other posters come along to insist this proves everything they always said.

It's actually exhausting.

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 16:21

Martymcfly24 · 19/03/2026 15:56

Agree. It completely cheapens any hope of dialogue and discussion when it's just used to sow division. Seems to be a common theme. Start a thread with a pro Pally jibe and usual goady stance which is thus ignored by most because it is clearly not in good faith. Then the other posters come along to insist this proves everything they always said.

It's actually exhausting.

Yes 💯

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 16:27

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 15:29

People can see for themselves the lack of interest in discussing this actual topic as raised by OP.

No people are not prepared to comment on a goady thread where the main topic raised by the original poster and followed up with by you is that pro Palestinians don't care about Palestinian lives unless it is Israel killing them. It is a thread not started in good faith and it is not, imo, an appropriate way to speak about dead innocent civilians or to use their deaths to point score. I won't engage any further in this.

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 17:16

JaneJeffer · 19/03/2026 15:44

Mumsnet should not allow goady threads like this. Whatever happened to Justine’s vow to make it a more pleasant site to visit I wonder?

Come on ... there is no complaint about "goady threads" as long as they are criticising Israel.

It's not for MN to police what people want to talk about as long as the topic doesn't break site rules. Many a time I've done a silent 🙄at thread titles on this board that have only been created to attack Israel AGAIN but never thought to post on them just to say this thread is goady, or MN should not allow it.

Twiglets1 · 19/03/2026 17:17

Boolabus · 19/03/2026 16:27

No people are not prepared to comment on a goady thread where the main topic raised by the original poster and followed up with by you is that pro Palestinians don't care about Palestinian lives unless it is Israel killing them. It is a thread not started in good faith and it is not, imo, an appropriate way to speak about dead innocent civilians or to use their deaths to point score. I won't engage any further in this.

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