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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel Hasn’t Released Any of the Child Hostages it Has Kidnapped

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Wedonttalkaboutboris · 19/10/2025 14:03

Israel hasn't released any of the child hostages it has kidnapped. Israel still holds 323 Palestinian children- Defense for Children International – Palestine (DCIP). As of March 31, 2025, the Israel Prison Service reported that 323 Palestinian children were detained in Israeli prisons. Of these, 119 children (37%) were held in administrative detention without charge or trial- the highest number and proportion on record since DCIP began monitoring these figures in 2008.

I also wanted to highlight some concerning facts about Palestinian children in Israeli detention, based on verified reports from human rights organisations.

  • As of June 2025, around 360 Palestinian children are being held in Israeli prisons. About 41% are in administrative detention, meaning they’re held without charge or trial — the highest proportion recorded since 2008 (DCI-Palestine).
  • Many face serious abuse: 86% report being beaten, 69% subjected to strip searches, and 42% sustained injuries during arrest (Save the Children).
  • Allegations include verbal abuse, threats, and physical and psychological violence (DCI-Palestine).
  • The UN has raised serious concerns about ill-treatment and torture in detention facilities, including Sde Teiman (OHCHR).

These children are entitled to protection under international law, yet reports show repeated violations of their rights.

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AhWeNoss · 20/10/2025 07:34

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inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:35

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:28

No it’s part of Israeli policy. It’s called mowing the lawn. Now imagine how much it would’ve grown if Israel was not killing them? Oh and if they weren’t kicked out of their house and their land. I bet it would be a lot higher.

“Moving the lawn” is primarily directed at Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza. It’s a response to threat.
You make it sound as if it was purely a method to keep the population from growing.

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:35

inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:28

Exactly.
Plus, around two million Palestinian Arabs live in Israel.
They can vote in national elections, hold public office, and are represented in the Knesset.
Is Israel trying to eradicate them too?

During the short Iranian war Israeli had a few months ago. Israelis were caught not letting the Palestinians use their shelter. A lot of the deaths that were counted were from the Palestinians that live in Israel.

Even though on paper it says they have equal rights they don’t.

Here are some examples;

  • A 2018 law, the “Nation-State Law,” which defines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, has been criticised for downgrading Arabic’s status and making a principle of Jewish settlement and land development, thus cementing the prioritisation of one ethno-national group over others.
  • Palestinian citizens are largely blocked from leasing or using about 80 % of state-owned land, according to Amnesty.
  • In the Negev/Naqab region many Bedouin Palestinian-Arab villages are “unrecognised” by the state, meaning they are excluded from state electricity, water, planning permissions, and face demolitions.
  • Their local authorities often have very limited land jurisdiction, infrastructure and development compared to Jewish towns.
  • Schools serving Palestinian-Arab communities (citizens of Israel) are documented to receive less funding, fewer resources, and less infrastructure investment than those serving Jewish students.
  • The curriculum and state policies emphasise Jewish history and culture; Arabic language and Arab history often receive less priority in state-schools.
  • Arab families in Israel have higher rates of poverty and lower average incomes than Jewish families. For example, some sources cite over 50% of Arab families live below the poverty line compared with lower proportions among Jewish families.
  • Employment: Arab citizens are under-represented in the civil service and high-tech sectors, and often face structural obstacles in accessing job opportunities and advancement.
  • Access to public services, infrastructure, transportation, sanitation etc tends to be worse in many Arab-locality municipalities.
  • Although Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel vote in national elections and have Knesset (parliament) representation, their parties have rarely been part of governing coalitions; they rarely hold ministerial or senior governmental appointments.
  • Their participation in decision-making for planning, budgets, allocation of state resources is said to be weak relative to Jewish citizens.
  • Amnesty emphasises that Israel grants Jews the right to immigrate and become citizens under the Law of Return, while Palestinians (refugees and their descendants) are denied the right to return to their properties or homes from which they were displaced in 1948 and 1967.
  • In East Jerusalem (which Israel has effectively annexed) many Palestinians hold only “permanent residency” not full citizenship, leaving them more vulnerable to revocation of status and exclusion from full rights.

The picture that emerges is not of isolated acts of discrimination, but of structural and institutionalised patterns that system-ically disadvantage a defined ethno-national minority (Arab Palestinians) in multiple domains (legal status, land, resources, education, socio-economics).

International human-rights law defines discrimination as the systematic denial or restriction of rights equal for others on the basis of race, national or ethnic origin. Many observers say that’s exactly what is occurring.

The result is a dual system: one for Jewish citizens (and states built to benefit them) and another for Arab citizens, who frequently live with lesser services, fewer opportunities and weaker access to resources.

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:45

inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:35

“Moving the lawn” is primarily directed at Hamas and other militant groups in Gaza. It’s a response to threat.
You make it sound as if it was purely a method to keep the population from growing.

It is and the Israeli commanders have admitted such.
They repeated target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Schools, hospitals, water supplies, fishing fleets. Not to mention the constant trauma it causes they children every time this happens.
What you are omitting is that the IDF views every Palestinian child as a potential Hamas fighter.

inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:46

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:35

During the short Iranian war Israeli had a few months ago. Israelis were caught not letting the Palestinians use their shelter. A lot of the deaths that were counted were from the Palestinians that live in Israel.

Even though on paper it says they have equal rights they don’t.

Here are some examples;

  • A 2018 law, the “Nation-State Law,” which defines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, has been criticised for downgrading Arabic’s status and making a principle of Jewish settlement and land development, thus cementing the prioritisation of one ethno-national group over others.
  • Palestinian citizens are largely blocked from leasing or using about 80 % of state-owned land, according to Amnesty.
  • In the Negev/Naqab region many Bedouin Palestinian-Arab villages are “unrecognised” by the state, meaning they are excluded from state electricity, water, planning permissions, and face demolitions.
  • Their local authorities often have very limited land jurisdiction, infrastructure and development compared to Jewish towns.
  • Schools serving Palestinian-Arab communities (citizens of Israel) are documented to receive less funding, fewer resources, and less infrastructure investment than those serving Jewish students.
  • The curriculum and state policies emphasise Jewish history and culture; Arabic language and Arab history often receive less priority in state-schools.
  • Arab families in Israel have higher rates of poverty and lower average incomes than Jewish families. For example, some sources cite over 50% of Arab families live below the poverty line compared with lower proportions among Jewish families.
  • Employment: Arab citizens are under-represented in the civil service and high-tech sectors, and often face structural obstacles in accessing job opportunities and advancement.
  • Access to public services, infrastructure, transportation, sanitation etc tends to be worse in many Arab-locality municipalities.
  • Although Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel vote in national elections and have Knesset (parliament) representation, their parties have rarely been part of governing coalitions; they rarely hold ministerial or senior governmental appointments.
  • Their participation in decision-making for planning, budgets, allocation of state resources is said to be weak relative to Jewish citizens.
  • Amnesty emphasises that Israel grants Jews the right to immigrate and become citizens under the Law of Return, while Palestinians (refugees and their descendants) are denied the right to return to their properties or homes from which they were displaced in 1948 and 1967.
  • In East Jerusalem (which Israel has effectively annexed) many Palestinians hold only “permanent residency” not full citizenship, leaving them more vulnerable to revocation of status and exclusion from full rights.

The picture that emerges is not of isolated acts of discrimination, but of structural and institutionalised patterns that system-ically disadvantage a defined ethno-national minority (Arab Palestinians) in multiple domains (legal status, land, resources, education, socio-economics).

International human-rights law defines discrimination as the systematic denial or restriction of rights equal for others on the basis of race, national or ethnic origin. Many observers say that’s exactly what is occurring.

The result is a dual system: one for Jewish citizens (and states built to benefit them) and another for Arab citizens, who frequently live with lesser services, fewer opportunities and weaker access to resources.

Certain levels of discrimination within the Israeli society can be criticised, it’s not the same as “eradicating the whole race of people” though, and it has nothing to do with “mowing the lawn” you were talking about earlier.

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 07:46

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 06:50

Civilised people do not imprison others without trial and treat children very very differently to adults. The term “child” is understood to mean under 18 and I don’t think pointing out 14 year olds can be tall is news to anyone. They are however still children.

Civilised? Careful where you're pointing that word.

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:48

inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:46

Certain levels of discrimination within the Israeli society can be criticised, it’s not the same as “eradicating the whole race of people” though, and it has nothing to do with “mowing the lawn” you were talking about earlier.

They are two different things that Israel is doing. One against its own non Jewish citizens and one against the citizens of an area it cannot control. Both equally disgusting.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:52

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 07:46

Civilised? Careful where you're pointing that word.

I beg your pardon? Are you suggesting that imprisonment without trial IS civilised and treating children like adults is acceptable?

How bizarre.

CrossChecking · 20/10/2025 07:54

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inamarina · 20/10/2025 07:55

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:45

It is and the Israeli commanders have admitted such.
They repeated target civilians and civilian infrastructure. Schools, hospitals, water supplies, fishing fleets. Not to mention the constant trauma it causes they children every time this happens.
What you are omitting is that the IDF views every Palestinian child as a potential Hamas fighter.

Israeli commanders have admitted that “mowing the lawn” was all about population control?
And of course children will be traumatised, maybe Hamas shouldn’t have kept attacking their neighbours.

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:59

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HellsBalls · 20/10/2025 08:07

It’s an excellent point made earlier that Hamas could have had all the teenagers released, but went for the jihadi terrorists.

Why would they do that?

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 08:08

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 07:52

I beg your pardon? Are you suggesting that imprisonment without trial IS civilised and treating children like adults is acceptable?

How bizarre.

I'm pointing out that ' civilised' has been used throughout history to mould people in the image of the user. What next? Uneducated savages?

RingoJuice · 20/10/2025 08:09

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 07:46

Civilised? Careful where you're pointing that word.

We shouldn’t point out they can be tall. We should point out that 14 year olds can commit horrendous crimes and for public safety should be treated like an adult.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:16

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 08:08

I'm pointing out that ' civilised' has been used throughout history to mould people in the image of the user. What next? Uneducated savages?

I’m sorry you’ve lost me. As I said Are you suggesting that imprisonment without trial IS civilised and treating children like adults is acceptable?. <boggle>

TicklishMauveSquid · 20/10/2025 08:17

RingoJuice · 20/10/2025 08:09

We shouldn’t point out they can be tall. We should point out that 14 year olds can commit horrendous crimes and for public safety should be treated like an adult.

TBF I pointed that out because the OP was obviously trying to convey imagery of little children by deliberately omitting that they are teenagers.

I thought that was rather obvious but obviously not.

quantumbutterfly · 20/10/2025 08:24

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:16

I’m sorry you’ve lost me. As I said Are you suggesting that imprisonment without trial IS civilised and treating children like adults is acceptable?. <boggle>

My words are clear.

TomeTome · 20/10/2025 08:27

And yet don’t answer the question. 😆

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 20/10/2025 08:34

@TicklishMauveSquid , I agree with every word of your message.
“How much lower can you sink?”
Antisemites can sink pretty low.

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 08:49

Slightyamusedandsilly · 20/10/2025 06:57

To the cost of the eradication of a whole race of people?

Palestinian is a recent identity, nor a race. And no-one is planning to eradicate them despite the best efforts of Hamas.

JacknDiane · 20/10/2025 08:50

Only on mn do we see posters vilifying others who find children taken as hostages in Israel, usually without trial, as abhorrent.

Any excuse. "Oh my kids were tall at 14"...so that's ok then.

When journalists are finally allowed into Israel to report the real devastation, these posters will be on overdrive determined to defend it all.

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 08:52

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That poster's background if I remember correctly is a Jewish Yemeni refugee. Her family will have been through and and will likely struggle with a sense of safety.

SpaceRaccoon · 20/10/2025 08:53

When journalists are finally allowed into Israel to report the real devastation, these posters will be on overdrive determined to defend it all.

Journalists can freely go to Israel.

WoodlandLove · 20/10/2025 09:25

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It isn't though. I've just told you truthfully what I think and feel 🤷‍♀️
I don't remotely equate the Israeli authorities with Jews worldwide.
I think antisemitism is obscene.
I don't know what more to say to be honest, if you don't believe me when I'm sharing my own thoughts and feelings.

Ayoopkid · 20/10/2025 09:26

Boomboombo · 20/10/2025 07:28

No it’s part of Israeli policy. It’s called mowing the lawn. Now imagine how much it would’ve grown if Israel was not killing them? Oh and if they weren’t kicked out of their house and their land. I bet it would be a lot higher.

Before the Holocaust there were 16m Jews in the world. After there were a little under 10m, and today around 14m. That’s eradication and genocide. In 1948 there were about 400,000 Muslims in Israel/Gaza and today there are 2m in Israel and just over 2m in Gaza. WTH are you talking about!? It’s just lies at this point.