Can someone please explain the religious nutterism (from all sides) in the Iran/Israel/USA war?

[Kendodd]

I've heard all sides (well, some people on all sides) are partly driven by religious beliefs and prophecy.

This is going to go well.....

I don't think anyone on here can, no.

One interesting perspective on Iran going full Temple of Doom

And I think this a really goady thread title and subject.

I just did. You're welcome?

Some people believe their religion is right. Other people believe their religion is right. Some people believe other people must follow the same religion. Other people want to keep following their own religion. Lots of men like to kill other people.

Muslims and Christians have a history of forcing people to follow their religion. Judaism is notable for not being a proselytising religion.

God knows quite literally.

Problem is you have to have a lot of cognitive dissonance to believe everything is God's will when you are subject to an attack by an enemy who believes in the same God theoretically. Is suppose in some Palestinians for instance their faith doesn't weaken but hardens a belief God has to support them in some future vengeance...

Google it if you are curious. You will find plenty of options, including a particular prophecy for Netanyahu, specifically, that he received from a US rabbi in full on Oracle from the Matrix style...
Warning: it is nuts and a great collection of jiberish and I do not think anyone can understand it, not even the guys that talk about it.
Is it worthy to get into it? I think nope

What on earth?! Can you link this, I’m super curious!

Nope, because I could not care less about that shite. Just google it.

Unnecessarily rude.

My personal view is that for Hamas/hezbollah and Iran this is a religiously based conflict more than a territory based one. Its why there will never be a two state solution whilst they are in power.

I’m Christian. It’s depressing what people can manage to believe under their umbrella of religion. It seems to have little to do with God and be more in their own image.

One of the awful beliefs suggest that Christ will come again (a good thing) when the end times approach… and so hastening the end times by burning through the world’s resources and various prophecies about Jerusalem is therefore a good thing.

Madness.

It seems to have little to do with God and be more in their own image

All people create God in their own image, surely? Its why progressive lefty types have a progressive lefty God and right wing conservatives have a right wing conservative God.

Thank you!

Sorry I do not want to be rude to you, but I already searched for it once and I do not want to waste my time seeing it again. It is not difficult to find in google or youtube.

I mean do you really want to get into the differences between Sunni (Iraq) and Shiite (Iran) Muslims the Iran - Iraq war, Iran bank rolling hamas and Hisbollah, the over
throw of the shah of Iran in the 1970s and the establishment of a religious theocracy, the cia’s involvement in the Middle East, how things went when Palestinian refugees caused chaos in Jordan …I mean it’s quite a complicated and nuanced situation. I’ve covered about 1% of the issues.

but using the word nutterism isn’t helpful.

Surely, this war/conflict is all religion driven because it can’t be about land. Israel is tiny and has almost zero natural resources like minerals, oil etc..On the other hand, there’s plenty of Islamic countries, most of them quite big, and some of them are rich in oil etc..

There’s a discussion about this on YouTube on a channel called Triggernometry with Elica Le Bon who is Iranian. Title: The real reason Iran wants to destroy Israel.

I looked it up- the only thing I can find that might be what you mean is a video of Netanyahu’s meeting with the Lubavitcher Rebbe, who was a very well respected figure (in both Jewish and non Jewish circles). It’s not gibberish, he’s speaking Hebrew (loshon hakodesh accent, not Ivrit), and in a specific style which doesn’t directly translate in English. The subtitles won’t make much sense unless you understand the original Hebrew, and the cultural/torah background and references he is making.

The Rebbe is the man who prophetised it indeed.
Whether this holds any weight tosay or there is anyone actually buying into it, who knows? In my opinion, it is a waste of time, but I have added you a link here, because the prophecy is about the coming of the Messiah and just in case you did not find that in your search.

www.israeltoday.co.il/read/lubavitcher-rebbe-after-bibi-comes-the-messiah/

Incoming clichés...

Thats a little bit insane, to have your prophecies contingent on the destruction of a nation/peoples. I mean I knew there was a massive religious element. Theres definitely a lot of resentment, I assumed it was bog standard “the jooooos” stuff not hate the jews on steroids.

I think a lot of westerns who are not religious themselves just don’t understand that a lot of people out there actually BELIEVE believe. They always see everything through an imperialism or colonialism lens and can’t fathom that for some people scripture and religion is very real.

Weirdly though they can’t quite see colonialism and imperialism when it’s done by others. The number of countries where arabic is the spoken language is extraordinary. They all have their own dialects because arabic replaced native languages but it’s a clear example of colonialism, imperialism and assimilation.

Religion is used to provide moral justification for things that most humans would see as morally wrong - it’s ok god says so

the words they interpret are just that - interpretation of words written centuries ago and then curated to select the preferred set

but it’s ok they believe they are right