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Conflict in the Middle East

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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BelleHathor · 05/06/2025 12:46

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 11:19

The Palestinians have been saying for a long time now that armed gangs are looting aid near where the IDF are stationed and they do nothing about it.

Gazan truck drivers are now refusing to drive aid trucks in Gaza because they have been attacked by these armed gangs.

From November 2024.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1858902950288232496.html

"🚨Israel is aiding ISIS-linked terrorists & criminals to sow chaos & famine in Gaza:

Shadi al-Sofi, a wanted murderer & son of an informant/collaborator with Israel, & Yasser abu Shabab, a drug dealer, are the main warlords responsible for looting most aid under IDF protection.

They formed gangs of over 200 armed criminals & “established a military like compound” (per the UN) in an emptied "death zone" fully under IDF control, where they looted only this Saturday night about 100 aid trucks at once.

This way Israel can absolve itself of responsibility for its deliberate starvation policy in Gaza and say “look, we’re letting aid in, it’s Hamas’ fault that food doesn’t reach people” (as claimed by Senator Jon Fetterman yesterday).

IDF soldiers never fire at those gang members as they loot aid right in front of Israeli tanks & troops in a closed military zone that no Gazan is allowed into. The IDF only fires at local policemen whenever they try to prevent the looting.

Yasser Abu Shabab was arrested by Gaza's local police multiple times in the past for drug smuggling & trading, which is often facilitated by ISIS groups in Sinai.

Hamas militants attempted to eliminate him yesterday in an attack that killed 11 of his gang, including his brother & partner Fathi & the gang's accountant. 30 others were wounded."

So it is sinister, create the problem by working with Isis linked gangs, who the IDF will label as "Hamas". Ordinary people believe this and Politicians amplify. Therefore further dehumanise Palestinians and provide cover for the atrocities being committed.

Extra bonus: Profit from the money made during the chaos.

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@muhammadshehad2: 🚨Israel is aiding ISIS-linked terrorists & criminals to sow chaos & famine in Gaza: Shadi al-Sofi, a wanted murderer & son of an informant/collaborator with Israel, & Yasser abu Shabab, a drug deal...…

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1858902950288232496.html

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 12:49

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 08:27

The thread title is about private firms delivering aid in Gaza which is a wider topic than focussing solely on Palestinians being murdered.

Anyway, threads wander into different areas all the time. I started a thread about Trump attacking the BBC yesterday and @Martymcfly24 posted instead about the UN vote last night.

They could have started a separate thread about that seeing as it's a completely different topic but ok.

Hang on leave me out of this. I posted on a thread about Trump ( POTUS) complaining about the BBC and their integrity when the US were the only ones who vetoed the UN Resolution. I think the two are inherently linked when Trump is virtue signalling but can choose to let innocent people die

Not every thought that pops into our heads needs to be a thread.

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 13:20

I'm going to start a separate thread on this. I would appreciate if some of the links can be re posted on there too please.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:21

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 12:49

Hang on leave me out of this. I posted on a thread about Trump ( POTUS) complaining about the BBC and their integrity when the US were the only ones who vetoed the UN Resolution. I think the two are inherently linked when Trump is virtue signalling but can choose to let innocent people die

Not every thought that pops into our heads needs to be a thread.

It was relevant to the discussion about threads wandering into different areas and I don't agree there was much of a link between the topic being discussed (the BBC being biased or not) and you posting about the UN vote.

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Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:26

GHF resumes handing out aid, moves Rafah distribution site

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has resumed operations near Rafah’s Tel Sultan neighborhood, according to a GHF spokesman, after the organization shut down aid distribution for over a day to work out security issues.

An Arabic-language message to Gazans indicates that a distribution site at the so-called “Swedish village” area on Gaza’s far southern coast is shut down, but a new site is now open in the Saudi neighborhood of Tel Sultan.

That distribution center is in one of the large school complexes in the center of the neighborhood, a GHF spokesperson tells The Times of Israel.

The US- and Israel-backed aid organization suspended operations yesterday after three consecutive days of reports of civilians being shot and killed while trying to reach a distribution site.

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ghf-resumes-handing-out-aid-moves-rafah-distribution-site/

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Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 13:33

@kirinm @BelleHathor @10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne and everyone else I have started a new thread to not clog up this one. I don't know how to repost from the thread app if it can be reposted there please

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 13:36

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:21

It was relevant to the discussion about threads wandering into different areas and I don't agree there was much of a link between the topic being discussed (the BBC being biased or not) and you posting about the UN vote.

Well if you are so concerned about bias and propaganda you would see the link.

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office thanked US President Donald Trump “for once again showing our enemies that there is no daylight between us”.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:36

Thank you for starting a new thread on a topic you are all keen to discuss @Whatsinanamehey

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Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 13:41

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:36

Thank you for starting a new thread on a topic you are all keen to discuss @Whatsinanamehey

Come and join us.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:42

Martymcfly24 · 05/06/2025 13:36

Well if you are so concerned about bias and propaganda you would see the link.

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office thanked US President Donald Trump “for once again showing our enemies that there is no daylight between us”.

I am concerned about bias and propaganda, yes.

But do I see a big link between BBC bias and the UN vote, No.

If it was a game to guess what is the link between the 2 things someone might eventually say: Donald Trump.

But it's a tenuous link.

Anyway, I didn't complain about you changing the direction of my BBC thread. I made the comment I did on here more to make the point that what people choose to talk about on threads can't be controlled.

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Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:45

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 13:41

Come and join us.

Haha maybe I will join in later.

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sualipa · 05/06/2025 13:53

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 11:15

Netanyahu has been accused of arming gangs in Gaza that had previously been known to loot aid trucks. When faced with the accusation he doesn't deny it. Why is he arming thieves in Gaza who loot trucks of aid?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-defense-chief-liberman-says-netanyahu-arming-gazan-gang-pms-office-does-not-deny/

Fookin hell we are in Stern Gang territory when Zionist terrorists explored working with the Nazis to get the British out but if my memory sreved me right they never went through with it. So the PM of Israel has been arming and supporting jihdist gangs in Gaza to loot aid - let that criminality sink in. Straight plain evil unless you have no moral compass and in the Times of Israel as well not some obscure pro Palestinian publication. Wow just wow am gobsmacked.

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 13:56

sualipa · 05/06/2025 13:53

Fookin hell we are in Stern Gang territory when Zionist terrorists explored working with the Nazis to get the British out but if my memory sreved me right they never went through with it. So the PM of Israel has been arming and supporting jihdist gangs in Gaza to loot aid - let that criminality sink in. Straight plain evil unless you have no moral compass and in the Times of Israel as well not some obscure pro Palestinian publication. Wow just wow am gobsmacked.

@sualipa there is a thread specifically to discuss this. Here is the link:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5348996-it-has-emerged-today-that-israel-has-secretly-been-arming-gangs-in-gaza-that-are-known-to-steal-aid?reply=144785244

It has emerged today that Israel has secretly been arming gangs in Gaza that are known to steal aid. | Mumsnet

Why? Why has Israel underhandedly been arming these gangs that are known to steal humanitarian aid? It has just been disclosed today but how long has...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5348996-it-has-emerged-today-that-israel-has-secretly-been-arming-gangs-in-gaza-that-are-known-to-steal-aid?reply=144785244

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sualipa · 05/06/2025 13:59

Thanks I had several windows open and may have posted on the wrong thread !

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 14:00

sualipa · 05/06/2025 13:59

Thanks I had several windows open and may have posted on the wrong thread !

No problem 😀

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Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 14:51

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 11:15

Netanyahu has been accused of arming gangs in Gaza that had previously been known to loot aid trucks. When faced with the accusation he doesn't deny it. Why is he arming thieves in Gaza who loot trucks of aid?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/ex-defense-chief-liberman-says-netanyahu-arming-gazan-gang-pms-office-does-not-deny/

I think this is relevant to this thread though. The IDF, Israel and their supporters back this new inhumane system despite its many flaws because they say it stops Hamas from stealing aid. But at no point did the underhanded sneaky Israeli government mention that they have secretly backed armed groups that are known to steal aid. The UN raised the alarm last year that aid was being stolen not by Hamas, but by these groups seemingly under the IDF's protection.

How convenient to get the looters to loot the aid to bolster Israel's position on this new aid model, that is just a farce and cover up for ethnically cleansing the north of Gaza and continue killing Palestinians.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 05/06/2025 15:03

Completely relevant! It shows how Israel is manipulating the whole system. The Unicef spokesperson detailed how they have stringent procedures to get the aid to the right people and follow up on it, they have experience over a long period and all around the world. Their system worked.

He said, before they closed Gaza to international aid a few months ago, Unicef and the UN aid trucks only accounted for 35% of the trucks that Israel were allowing in and that they were going directly to people and had not been looted by Hamas. He did say the other 65% was brought in by other 3rd parties and that if things were looted it was from this 65%. Israel control the border, they decide who goes in and what goes in. It all sounds very deliberate. Someone is bound to be profiting from the private aid distribution too.

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 15:50

From the times of Israel:
Israel has been arming a criminal gang of jihadists in the Gaza Strip as part of an effort to strengthen opposition to Hamas in the enclave, defense sources confirmed on Thursday.

So Israel is working with and arming some aid looters to try and prevent other aid looters. Make it make sense.

These ARMED gangs are not a threat and recieve protection from the IDF but unarmed civilians including women and children who lost their way whilst trying to retrieve aid get shot and killed.

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 15:51

Can those of you who still support the new system not finally see that it's a farce and cover up?

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:00

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 15:51

Can those of you who still support the new system not finally see that it's a farce and cover up?

No one has been 100% supportive of the new system. Many people have expressed reservations about it, such as there not being enough aid centres and none currently in the North.

What some of us have said is that this system is better than no aid being available at all and that it seems better than the old system if he cuts off a Hamas income stream. That is not the same as saying we “support the new system.”

The story about Netanyahu and the criminal gangs is a new story that only came out today. I’m going to read all about it before commenting more as I don’t know enough about it at the moment. But I don’t see how it’s that linked to the aid distribution units? The armed gangs are not a current threat to the IDF if they are temporarily allies and all working to defeat Hamas.

In wartime strange alliances are formed sometimes if both sides have a common enemy. But as I say, I don’t know much about it at the moment.

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 05/06/2025 17:28

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:00

No one has been 100% supportive of the new system. Many people have expressed reservations about it, such as there not being enough aid centres and none currently in the North.

What some of us have said is that this system is better than no aid being available at all and that it seems better than the old system if he cuts off a Hamas income stream. That is not the same as saying we “support the new system.”

The story about Netanyahu and the criminal gangs is a new story that only came out today. I’m going to read all about it before commenting more as I don’t know enough about it at the moment. But I don’t see how it’s that linked to the aid distribution units? The armed gangs are not a current threat to the IDF if they are temporarily allies and all working to defeat Hamas.

In wartime strange alliances are formed sometimes if both sides have a common enemy. But as I say, I don’t know much about it at the moment.

The armed gangs are not a current threat to the IDF if they are temporarily allies and all working to defeat Hamas.
They are a threat to innocent Palestinians and supported by the IDF. How can you say armed gangs stealing aid and terrorising innocent people propped up by the IDF and Netanyahu is not an issue?

But I don’t see how it’s that linked to the aid distribution units?
Yes do read up on it because I don't think you've grasped at all what's been happening

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:39

I didn’t say the gangs aren’t an issue to the Palestinians I said they are not a current threat to the IDF.

Everything seems to be a threat to the wellbeing of the Palestinian civilians- Hamas, the IDF & the armed gangs. They really are in the most hopeless situation where even their own government keep them poor and in constant battles.

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 05/06/2025 17:50

Twiglets1 · 05/06/2025 17:39

I didn’t say the gangs aren’t an issue to the Palestinians I said they are not a current threat to the IDF.

Everything seems to be a threat to the wellbeing of the Palestinian civilians- Hamas, the IDF & the armed gangs. They really are in the most hopeless situation where even their own government keep them poor and in constant battles.

I didn’t say the gangs aren’t an issue to the Palestinians I said they are not a current threat to the IDF.
Fair enough but it was phrased in such a way that it read to me that because they weren't a threat to the IDF and a potential ally against Hamas they could be tolerated, apologies if that is not what you meant

Stripes56 · 05/06/2025 17:55

Whatsinanamehey · 05/06/2025 15:50

From the times of Israel:
Israel has been arming a criminal gang of jihadists in the Gaza Strip as part of an effort to strengthen opposition to Hamas in the enclave, defense sources confirmed on Thursday.

So Israel is working with and arming some aid looters to try and prevent other aid looters. Make it make sense.

These ARMED gangs are not a threat and recieve protection from the IDF but unarmed civilians including women and children who lost their way whilst trying to retrieve aid get shot and killed.

That’s quite some development!

AIBUHere · 05/06/2025 21:08

Just came across this very interesting article by a military expert who actually knows what he’s talking about…………………

Wonder if there are any thoughts about it on here?

https://x.com/SpencerGuard/status/1930656968726725054

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Spencer_(military_officer)

https://x.com/SpencerGuard/status/1930656968726725054

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