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US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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Whatsinanamehey · 02/06/2025 15:30

Palestinians are risking their lives for food.

news.sky.com/story/un-chief-says-its-unacceptable-that-palestinians-are-risking-their-lives-for-food-13378145

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:04

Whatsinanamehey · 02/06/2025 15:30

I hope Hamas are listening! Israel accepted the US ceasefire plan - they didn’t.

Strange that no one wants to focus on that.

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Whatsinanamehey · 02/06/2025 16:12

They rejected it because there would have been no end to the war. Continue obliterating the Palestinians once the short term truce is over.

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:14

Statement on Media Misinformation on Gaza
By Mike Huckabee, U.S. Ambassador to Israel
U.S. Embassy Jerusalem

Reckless and irresponsible reporting by major U.S. news outlets are contributing to the antisemitic climate that has resulted in the murder of two young people at an Israeli Embassy event in Washington last month and the attempted murder and terror attack on a group of pro-Israel demonstrators in Colorado on Sunday.

Without verification of any source other than Hamas and its collaborators, the New York Times, CNN, and Associated Press reported that a number of people seeking to receive humanitarian food boxes from the Gaza Humanitarian Fund were shot or killed by the Israeli Defense Forces. These reports were FALSE. Drone video and first-hand accounts clearly showed that there were no injuries, no fatalities, no shooting, no chaos. It is Hamas that continues to terrorize and intimidate those who seek food aid. The only source for these misleading, exaggerated, and utterly fabricated stories came from Hamas sources, which are designed to fan the flames of antisemitic hate that is arguably contributing to violence against Jews in the United States. Media sources who willingly parrot these libelous allegations should recant their fake news stories, apologize, and pledge to practice actual reporting of fact instead of engaging in dangerous propaganda that assists the terror group Hamas as they continue to hold innocent hostages for over 600 days after butchering over 1,200 people on October 7th.

The efforts of GHF have resulted in over 5 million meals to civilians without incident. For the New York Times, AP, and CNN to be part of a Hamas-fed false narrative is reprehensible. It represents more than mere sloppy journalism. It’s feeding and inciting violence against innocent people in the United States.

We are demanding an immediate retraction of the lies and are appealing to all media sources to act with objective professionalism to cover actual events instead of being a partner of terrorism by blindly following Hamas news releases.

https://il.usembassy.gov/statement-on-media-misinformation-on-gaza/

Statement on Media Misinformation on Gaza

By Mike Huckabee, U.S. Ambassador to Israel U.S. Embassy Jerusalem Reckless and irresponsible reporting by major U.S. news outlets are contributing to the

https://il.usembassy.gov/statement-on-media-misinformation-on-gaza/

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ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 16:19

The statement sounds plausible to me, based on the total lack of evidence and the only existing footage.
And Hamas shooting civilians receiving Israeli aid, and then lying about it, is right on brand.

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:30

Jerusalem Post today: GHF updates on aid distribution success, debunks Hamas propaganda

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) announced Monday that it has distributed close to six million meals in its first week of operations in Gaza, and it intends to open even more aid distribution sites.

According to the organization, 21 truckloads of food aid were delivered from its Tel Sultan distribution site, totaling 18,720 boxes – enough to provide approximately 1,081,080 meals. This brings the cumulative total to an estimated 5.8 million meals distributed since operations began.

GHF also provided new photos from the successful aid distribution on Monday morning.

GHF interim executive director John Acree praised the progress achieved so far, stating that the rapid deployment “proves our model is functional and effective in delivering life-saving assistance to the people of Gaza under emergency conditions.” Acree added that GHF plans to expand its operations by opening four additional distribution sites, including one in northern Gaza, to meet the overwhelming demand.

On Sunday, reports circulated claiming that the IDF had attacked a food distribution point near Rafah, resulting in civilian casualties. However, GHF dismissed these reports, releasing security camera footage from the site showing calm civilian activity and no reported incidents.

“All aid was distributed today without incident. No injuries or fatalities. We have heard that these false reports are being spread by Hamas. They are untrue and fabricated,” the organization said.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-856265

GHF updates on aid distribution success, debunks Hamas propaganda

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation gave an operational update while also reiterating that Hamas reports of casualties near the sites were false.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-856265

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Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:35

IDF, GHF slam Hamas for harming humanitarian efforts

The IDF also denied the allegations, saying its initial investigation found no evidence of an attack on civilians at the aid site. According to an IDF source, troops operated overnight approximately one kilometer from the distribution area, outside of operating hours, and targeted individuals suspected of approaching their position.

Also on Sunday, the IDF released video footage of masked Gazan gunmen shooting innocent Palestinians who were attempting to collect aid.

GHF criticized Hamas for allegedly spreading misinformation that undermines critical humanitarian efforts. “We are scaling up as quickly as possible, but the reality is stark: For every truck we manage to bring into our network, other humanitarian groups face looting before aid reaches those in need,” the organization stated.

www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-856265

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ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 16:44

The media have, yet again, been completely irresponsible/credulous with their reporting. Maybe they can inspire another Islamist nutter to severely burn a bunch of peaceful elderly demonstrators or shoot some more promising young men and women.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 02/06/2025 16:45

@Twiglets1 you really need to be aware of the sources you're posting. I have no doubt there's propaganda at play on both sides but you continually post Israeli biased sources but seem to have major issues with other sources such as the BBC, guardian and so on. For someone who is so vocal about propaganda surely you can recognise that some of what you post is just that.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 02/06/2025 16:47

ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 14:25

It is sick propaganda. Having to accept aid from the IDF, their abusers, who have blocked it for close to 3 months bringing people to the brink of starvation, only yesterday over 20 people killed and countless others injured trying to get aid and today videos pop up of happy grateful people

There's a very good reason for Israel to take over the supply of aid - Hamas stealing and selling it was an income stream and a way to pay wages, so that avenue has now been shut off, and hopefully more food can actually reach it's intended recipients.

And it's very much open for debate as to who actually shot the civilians - as I posted upthread, the only footage I've seen is of masked gunmen who are almost certainly not the IDF.

There's a very good reason for Israel to take over the supply of aid - Hamas stealing and selling it was an income stream and a way to pay wages, so that avenue has now been shut off, and hopefully more food can actually reach it's intended recipients.
Which they've not provided any evidence for but we're just meant to trust them that that is the reason they blocked aid for 3 months.....

ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 16:51

Which they've not provided any evidence for but we're just meant to trust them that that is the reason they blocked aid for 3 months.....

There's enough footage of Hamas forcefully taking control of aid for me to find it completely plausible.

I know the starting point of many posters here though is that Israel does things purely to be as evil as possible, and are a less credible source than Hamas. So fair enough if that's the lens you view the conflict through.

ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 16:52

you really need to be aware of the sources you're posting

The Jerusalem Post is a long-established mainstream media outlet with a centrist to centre-right slant.
It's not some dubious propaganda outfit.

LoremIpsumCici · 02/06/2025 16:54

ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 16:51

Which they've not provided any evidence for but we're just meant to trust them that that is the reason they blocked aid for 3 months.....

There's enough footage of Hamas forcefully taking control of aid for me to find it completely plausible.

I know the starting point of many posters here though is that Israel does things purely to be as evil as possible, and are a less credible source than Hamas. So fair enough if that's the lens you view the conflict through.

There isn’t any such footage.

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:55

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 02/06/2025 16:45

@Twiglets1 you really need to be aware of the sources you're posting. I have no doubt there's propaganda at play on both sides but you continually post Israeli biased sources but seem to have major issues with other sources such as the BBC, guardian and so on. For someone who is so vocal about propaganda surely you can recognise that some of what you post is just that.

That's so funny being lectured to about me posting Israeli biased sources.

Were you questioning it when people were posting from sources that just parroted whatever the Hamas media was telling them? No.

I'm just making the news we are seeing more balanced.

And my issue is mainly with The Guardian. I think the BBC do make attempts to mention both sides of any controversy, albeit they don't always do that immediately. They are fairer in their reporting than The Guardian who are only showing one point of view.

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ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 17:06

There isn’t any such footage.

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1921229546042351745

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1928631486791524562

I've seen many examples over the last few months, such as the above.
However it's fairly pointless me spending time to find and post more because you're about to tell me it's fake or not verified or you don't like the source.

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1921229546042351745

kirinm · 02/06/2025 17:07

The BBC are trying to verify the reports. The CCTV footage from GFH does show gun shots and people running away so not sure why that was denied.

LoremIpsumCici · 02/06/2025 17:09

ArtTheClown · 02/06/2025 17:06

There isn’t any such footage.

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1921229546042351745

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1928631486791524562

I've seen many examples over the last few months, such as the above.
However it's fairly pointless me spending time to find and post more because you're about to tell me it's fake or not verified or you don't like the source.

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Those X links both end at a blank screen.

BelleHathor · 02/06/2025 17:11

Whatsinanamehey · 02/06/2025 16:12

They rejected it because there would have been no end to the war. Continue obliterating the Palestinians once the short term truce is over.

Correct, the funny thing is that the latest round had been agreed between Hamas and America last week. Witkoff presented this to Israel who added provisions that they knew Hamas would reject. Witkoff then providing cover again for Israel presented this as Hamas rejected the ceasefire.

"Steve Witkoff, who is for all intents and purposes the US Secretary of State, has developed a serious credibility problem. That’s not a good position for a government’s top diplomat and negotiator to be in. In January Witkoff earned significant credit in the Middle East for compelling Israel to accept a three-stage agreement that, if implemented, would have seen Israel’s genocidal campaign in the Gaza Strip brought to a halt and its forces withdraw from the territory; a conclusion of the exchange of captives between Israel and the Palestinians; and the beginnings of recovery after more than a year of relentless, systematic killing and destruction by Israel’s US-armed military. Since it took only the proverbial phone call from Washington to bring Israel to heel and accept an agreement that had already been crafted before Witkoff appeared on the scene, it was not much of an accomplishment. But measured against the Biden administration’s steadfast refusal to impose any restraints whatsoever on the Israeli government it was a significant development, and the region breathed a collective sigh of relief. The agreement’s first phase, which among other issues called for a suspension of hostilities, also included a clause that negotiations regarding the mechanisms governing implementation of its second phase, including a durable ceasefire, would begin on a set date. It further specified that neither Israel nor the Palestinians could resume hostilities while negotiations continued, even if they were not concluded by the end of the first phase. In late February, several weeks after the January agreement had come into force, and with Israel consistently refusing to engage in serious negotiations, Witkoff presented new terms that fundamentally altered what had already been agreed to by the parties the previous month. He was essentially doing Israel’s bidding, endorsing its main priority of avoiding any formal conclusion of hostilities. Hamas predictably rejected the proposed revisions, and insisted that the parties continue with the text they had already signed off on. When the Palestinians maintained their position in the face of increasingly bellicose threats by Witkoff, Washington authorized Israel to re-impose its siege of the Gaza Strip on 2 March, which it did with unprecedented ferocity, and to resume its genocidal campaign on 18 March. Some 400 Palestinians were slaughtered on that first day of bombings. Between these two dates, and clearly in coordination with Witkoff, US envoy Adam Boehler held unprecedented, direct talks with the Hamas leadership in Qatar. Although both parties described the encounter as positive, it failed to produce a meeting of the minds. But it did succeed in ameliorating somewhat the damage produced by Trump’s harebrained February Gaza Riviera proposal, which set alarm bells ringing throughout the region. In contrast to the Biden administration, which was passionately devoted to Israel and shared its agenda from A to Z, Trump doesn’t particularly care for this issue one way or the other. His focus is on securing investments from wealthy Gulf states, and exploring the prospects for an agreement with Iran that would prevent a costly war. In neither case has he been prepared to subordinate his agenda to Israel’s agenda or priorities, or even coordinate with it. In Palestine, by contrast, Trump’s lack of interest translated into a carte blanche for Israel to slaughter and starve Palestinians at will. One issue that does directly concern both Trump and Witkoff is securing the release of captives still held in the Gaza Strip, particularly those with dual US citizenship. Here too Washington was prepared to operate independently of Israel, and secured the release of an Israeli soldier who also holds US citizenship, on the eve of Trump’s victory tour of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates. Hamas described the release as a “good will gesture”, which confirms Witkoff’s assertion that it was not the result of any formal agreement with the Palestinian movement. Nevertheless, Hamas later stated that it had received informal assurances from Witkoff that the US would in exchange ensure the delivery of urgently-needed humanitarian supplies into the Gaza Strip by aid organizations that are prohibited from doing so by Israeli force of arms. When several days later the Palestinians were instead burying 400 dead, Hamas felt double-crossed once again. Some commentators have speculated that Witkoff knowingly made false promises, out of a desire to ensure the soldier was released before the massive bombings he knew were imminent. It’s also possible Witkoff was rebuffed by the Israelis, and threatened with public exposure that Washington was prepared to reciprocate the “good will gesture”. Be that as it may, he declined to once again make the proverbial phone call that he appears to have committed to. Where the Biden administration never lost an opportunity to offer full-throated support to Israel’s genocide, its successor has been more circumspect. It’s quite happy to let Israel have its way, but leaves most of the cheerleading to others. As the situation in Gaza became increasingly dire with each passing day, and generated increasingly negative headlines for a presidency that prides image above all else, negotiations between Witkoff and Hamas resumed. It has been suggested that Trump was encouraged in this direction by his Arab investors, and while this is possible it is also the case that the vast majority of Arab bandwidth was taken up by bilateral relations, Syria sanctions relief, and encouraging agreement on Iran. Last month, after a protracted back and forth, Witkoff and the Palestinians once again reached agreement. The new text revised elements of the January agreement, but retained the same objectives, thus producing a proposal acceptable to both Washington and Hamas. When presented to the Israelis, the latter demanded and received key changes. In a nutshell, these would allow Isreal to resume and further intensify the genocide more or less at will at any point after the initial 60-day suspension of hostilities. Presented with these revisions, Hamas and the other Palestinian organizations predictably balked. In their response, they neither categorically rejected Witkoff’s framework nor insisted on maintaining every letter of what they had previously agreed with him. They did however insist on explicit guarantees that any agreement produce a definitive end to the genocide, a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, and the resumption of aid to the territory by established organizations rather than remaining the sole preserve of the misbegotten Gaza Humanitarian Foundation operated by US mercenaries under Israeli supervision. In their response the Palestinians had, despite their indignation at Witkoff’s double dealing, maintained a generally respectful tone, and refrained from accusing Washington from acting in bad faith, either in their written response or public comments. For his part Witkoff gave a bellicose public assessment of the Palestinian counter-proposal. Shortly thereafter the latest Israeli massacre, this time of several dozen desperate Palestinians seeking aid parcels from a distribution center manned by the US mercenaries, deservedly earned the name “Witkoff Massacre”. It's unclear what happens next. Although Gaza is Trump’s lowest-hanging fruit since it can be resolved with a single phone call, Washington may well have concluded that in view of Netanyahu’s intransigence the effort is not worth the political capital required, and has decided to just let Israel continue to do as it pleases. A further theory is that the explanation for Witkoff’s latest performance relates more to Iran than Israel. In a recent meeting in Washington, the visiting Israeli envoys are said to have been informed that Washington expects its negotiations with Tehran to result in an agreement sooner rather than later. Israel of course opposes any such agreement on principle, and will accept only one between the US and Israel to launch a war against Iran. In this context, Witkoff accepted Israeli revisions that fundamentally altered the text agreed with Hamas in order to mollify Israel. In compensation for losing on Iran, it gets rewarded with open-ended genocide in Gaza. It's also entirely possible that, for any variety of reasons, the US will seek to resume efforts to produce an agreement on Gaza. If and when it does so, Witkoff will have a serious handicap. Having double-crossed the Palestinians once too often, he has a credibility deficit that will ensure their opposition to any “constructive ambiguity” they might otherwise have been willing to accept. Witkoff’s predecessor, Antony Blinken, gleefully accepted the role of Israel’s international errand boy, and it did him in. In other words, if Witkoff hopes to avoid a similar fate, he won’t get anywhere unless and until he’s finally prepared to once again make that proverbial phone call."
https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1929429252002472409

https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1929429252002472409

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 17:13

BelleHathor · 02/06/2025 17:11

Correct, the funny thing is that the latest round had been agreed between Hamas and America last week. Witkoff presented this to Israel who added provisions that they knew Hamas would reject. Witkoff then providing cover again for Israel presented this as Hamas rejected the ceasefire.

"Steve Witkoff, who is for all intents and purposes the US Secretary of State, has developed a serious credibility problem. That’s not a good position for a government’s top diplomat and negotiator to be in. In January Witkoff earned significant credit in the Middle East for compelling Israel to accept a three-stage agreement that, if implemented, would have seen Israel’s genocidal campaign in the Gaza Strip brought to a halt and its forces withdraw from the territory; a conclusion of the exchange of captives between Israel and the Palestinians; and the beginnings of recovery after more than a year of relentless, systematic killing and destruction by Israel’s US-armed military. Since it took only the proverbial phone call from Washington to bring Israel to heel and accept an agreement that had already been crafted before Witkoff appeared on the scene, it was not much of an accomplishment. But measured against the Biden administration’s steadfast refusal to impose any restraints whatsoever on the Israeli government it was a significant development, and the region breathed a collective sigh of relief. The agreement’s first phase, which among other issues called for a suspension of hostilities, also included a clause that negotiations regarding the mechanisms governing implementation of its second phase, including a durable ceasefire, would begin on a set date. It further specified that neither Israel nor the Palestinians could resume hostilities while negotiations continued, even if they were not concluded by the end of the first phase. In late February, several weeks after the January agreement had come into force, and with Israel consistently refusing to engage in serious negotiations, Witkoff presented new terms that fundamentally altered what had already been agreed to by the parties the previous month. He was essentially doing Israel’s bidding, endorsing its main priority of avoiding any formal conclusion of hostilities. Hamas predictably rejected the proposed revisions, and insisted that the parties continue with the text they had already signed off on. When the Palestinians maintained their position in the face of increasingly bellicose threats by Witkoff, Washington authorized Israel to re-impose its siege of the Gaza Strip on 2 March, which it did with unprecedented ferocity, and to resume its genocidal campaign on 18 March. Some 400 Palestinians were slaughtered on that first day of bombings. Between these two dates, and clearly in coordination with Witkoff, US envoy Adam Boehler held unprecedented, direct talks with the Hamas leadership in Qatar. Although both parties described the encounter as positive, it failed to produce a meeting of the minds. But it did succeed in ameliorating somewhat the damage produced by Trump’s harebrained February Gaza Riviera proposal, which set alarm bells ringing throughout the region. In contrast to the Biden administration, which was passionately devoted to Israel and shared its agenda from A to Z, Trump doesn’t particularly care for this issue one way or the other. His focus is on securing investments from wealthy Gulf states, and exploring the prospects for an agreement with Iran that would prevent a costly war. In neither case has he been prepared to subordinate his agenda to Israel’s agenda or priorities, or even coordinate with it. In Palestine, by contrast, Trump’s lack of interest translated into a carte blanche for Israel to slaughter and starve Palestinians at will. One issue that does directly concern both Trump and Witkoff is securing the release of captives still held in the Gaza Strip, particularly those with dual US citizenship. Here too Washington was prepared to operate independently of Israel, and secured the release of an Israeli soldier who also holds US citizenship, on the eve of Trump’s victory tour of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates. Hamas described the release as a “good will gesture”, which confirms Witkoff’s assertion that it was not the result of any formal agreement with the Palestinian movement. Nevertheless, Hamas later stated that it had received informal assurances from Witkoff that the US would in exchange ensure the delivery of urgently-needed humanitarian supplies into the Gaza Strip by aid organizations that are prohibited from doing so by Israeli force of arms. When several days later the Palestinians were instead burying 400 dead, Hamas felt double-crossed once again. Some commentators have speculated that Witkoff knowingly made false promises, out of a desire to ensure the soldier was released before the massive bombings he knew were imminent. It’s also possible Witkoff was rebuffed by the Israelis, and threatened with public exposure that Washington was prepared to reciprocate the “good will gesture”. Be that as it may, he declined to once again make the proverbial phone call that he appears to have committed to. Where the Biden administration never lost an opportunity to offer full-throated support to Israel’s genocide, its successor has been more circumspect. It’s quite happy to let Israel have its way, but leaves most of the cheerleading to others. As the situation in Gaza became increasingly dire with each passing day, and generated increasingly negative headlines for a presidency that prides image above all else, negotiations between Witkoff and Hamas resumed. It has been suggested that Trump was encouraged in this direction by his Arab investors, and while this is possible it is also the case that the vast majority of Arab bandwidth was taken up by bilateral relations, Syria sanctions relief, and encouraging agreement on Iran. Last month, after a protracted back and forth, Witkoff and the Palestinians once again reached agreement. The new text revised elements of the January agreement, but retained the same objectives, thus producing a proposal acceptable to both Washington and Hamas. When presented to the Israelis, the latter demanded and received key changes. In a nutshell, these would allow Isreal to resume and further intensify the genocide more or less at will at any point after the initial 60-day suspension of hostilities. Presented with these revisions, Hamas and the other Palestinian organizations predictably balked. In their response, they neither categorically rejected Witkoff’s framework nor insisted on maintaining every letter of what they had previously agreed with him. They did however insist on explicit guarantees that any agreement produce a definitive end to the genocide, a complete Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, and the resumption of aid to the territory by established organizations rather than remaining the sole preserve of the misbegotten Gaza Humanitarian Foundation operated by US mercenaries under Israeli supervision. In their response the Palestinians had, despite their indignation at Witkoff’s double dealing, maintained a generally respectful tone, and refrained from accusing Washington from acting in bad faith, either in their written response or public comments. For his part Witkoff gave a bellicose public assessment of the Palestinian counter-proposal. Shortly thereafter the latest Israeli massacre, this time of several dozen desperate Palestinians seeking aid parcels from a distribution center manned by the US mercenaries, deservedly earned the name “Witkoff Massacre”. It's unclear what happens next. Although Gaza is Trump’s lowest-hanging fruit since it can be resolved with a single phone call, Washington may well have concluded that in view of Netanyahu’s intransigence the effort is not worth the political capital required, and has decided to just let Israel continue to do as it pleases. A further theory is that the explanation for Witkoff’s latest performance relates more to Iran than Israel. In a recent meeting in Washington, the visiting Israeli envoys are said to have been informed that Washington expects its negotiations with Tehran to result in an agreement sooner rather than later. Israel of course opposes any such agreement on principle, and will accept only one between the US and Israel to launch a war against Iran. In this context, Witkoff accepted Israeli revisions that fundamentally altered the text agreed with Hamas in order to mollify Israel. In compensation for losing on Iran, it gets rewarded with open-ended genocide in Gaza. It's also entirely possible that, for any variety of reasons, the US will seek to resume efforts to produce an agreement on Gaza. If and when it does so, Witkoff will have a serious handicap. Having double-crossed the Palestinians once too often, he has a credibility deficit that will ensure their opposition to any “constructive ambiguity” they might otherwise have been willing to accept. Witkoff’s predecessor, Antony Blinken, gleefully accepted the role of Israel’s international errand boy, and it did him in. In other words, if Witkoff hopes to avoid a similar fate, he won’t get anywhere unless and until he’s finally prepared to once again make that proverbial phone call."
https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1929429252002472409

I don't read things without paragraphs but I can take a guess at the TLDR: It's all Israel's fault.

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Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 17:14

LoremIpsumCici · 02/06/2025 17:09

Those X links both end at a blank screen.

I can see them perfectly well ... strange.

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 02/06/2025 17:15

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 16:55

That's so funny being lectured to about me posting Israeli biased sources.

Were you questioning it when people were posting from sources that just parroted whatever the Hamas media was telling them? No.

I'm just making the news we are seeing more balanced.

And my issue is mainly with The Guardian. I think the BBC do make attempts to mention both sides of any controversy, albeit they don't always do that immediately. They are fairer in their reporting than The Guardian who are only showing one point of view.

Were you questioning it when people were posting from sources that just parroted whatever the Hamas media was telling them? No.
What sources are you referring to here? I'm not aware of anyone posting from the Hamas media

kirinm · 02/06/2025 17:16

kirinm · 02/06/2025 17:07

The BBC are trying to verify the reports. The CCTV footage from GFH does show gun shots and people running away so not sure why that was denied.

This should obviously be GHF. It wouldn’t let me edit.

LoremIpsumCici · 02/06/2025 17:16

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 17:13

I don't read things without paragraphs but I can take a guess at the TLDR: It's all Israel's fault.

You’ve guessed wrong. Maybe read it?

LoremIpsumCici · 02/06/2025 17:17

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 17:14

I can see them perfectly well ... strange.

the screens say “something went wrong try reloading”

Twiglets1 · 02/06/2025 17:28

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 02/06/2025 17:15

Were you questioning it when people were posting from sources that just parroted whatever the Hamas media was telling them? No.
What sources are you referring to here? I'm not aware of anyone posting from the Hamas media

This has been covered already.

UK sources like the Guardian, Sky News and even the BBC in their initial reports just reported the information that had been given by the Hamas-backed health ministry. They didn't question whether it was biased or not and of course it is biased as it is run by Hamas.

They didn't wait until they could get information from the GHF or the IDF who were doing an internal investigation. They reported it as fact that the attack was committed by the IDF or GHF staff.

Sources who at least try to report things more neutrally like the BBC have changed their headlines now to acknowledge that the IDF and GHF have denied the accusations. For example, a recent BBC headline was Israeli military denies firing at civilians after Hamas-run health ministry says 31 killed.

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