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US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 10:54

kirinm · 28/05/2025 09:56

Oh.

The video is posted by Hamas and all you can say is Oh?

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kirinm · 28/05/2025 10:56

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 10:54

The video is posted by Hamas and all you can say is Oh?

You have no idea it’s posted by Hamas. Are you suggesting that all press - including the US would ignore it? And only the pro-Israeli channel is brave enough?

I’ll believe it when I see it from an independent source.

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 11:08

kirinm · 28/05/2025 10:56

You have no idea it’s posted by Hamas. Are you suggesting that all press - including the US would ignore it? And only the pro-Israeli channel is brave enough?

I’ll believe it when I see it from an independent source.

That's fair to say that you will believe it when you see it from an independent source. That's how I feel when a lot of stuff is posted on here from X or sources known to be anti Israel like Al Jazeera or even the UN who are biased when it comes to the new method of distributing aid.

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AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 11:22

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 11:24

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 09:48

Speaking from Switzerland, Mr Sunghay said: "The information that we have is that about 47 people have been injured, it is through gunshots.
"We're still gathering information, the numbers could go up.
"What we know is that it was shooting from the IDF [Israeli Defence Forces]. But again, this is a job we are continuing to do at this time."

That is upsetting if true that 47 people have been injured.

However, we don't know for sure at this stage what caused the injuries and they could have been sustained during the chaos as the crowd broke into the aid hub - I'm sure it will be investigated further.

At the moment, we only have Mr Sunghay's word for it that "it is through gunshots" which has been denied by the IDF. Mr Sunghay is a UN official, and unfortunately they do have form for spreading anti Israel rumours that turn out to be untrue, like the 14,000 babies a different UN official said last Monday would die within 48 hours.

The Independent are reporting on the same story but they report it that
Ajith Sunghay told reporters in Geneva that it appeared Israeli army fire had caused most of the injuries.

For all we know, he is getting his information from Hamas or it is wrong. Best to wait and see as this is investigated I think before reaching a conclusion.

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 11:29

Link to The Independent article I mentioned above:

www.independent.co.uk/news/gaza-palestinians-israeli-geneva-b2759017.html

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Odras · 28/05/2025 11:59

they do have form for spreading anti Israel rumours that turn out to be untrue, like the 14,000 babies a different UN official said last Monday would die within 48 hours.

That’s a misrepresentation of what happened. One UN official said this incorrectly. However the report that these figures came from was correct (that these babies would die over a 12 month time frame) That is very different from the report itself being incorrect.

But yes I agree with you they can only say that it “appeared” to be caused by Israeli bullets. We have no certainly on what happened as no official party on the ground can be trusted.

Who do you think should investigate what happened?

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 12:52

Odras · 28/05/2025 11:59

they do have form for spreading anti Israel rumours that turn out to be untrue, like the 14,000 babies a different UN official said last Monday would die within 48 hours.

That’s a misrepresentation of what happened. One UN official said this incorrectly. However the report that these figures came from was correct (that these babies would die over a 12 month time frame) That is very different from the report itself being incorrect.

But yes I agree with you they can only say that it “appeared” to be caused by Israeli bullets. We have no certainly on what happened as no official party on the ground can be trusted.

Who do you think should investigate what happened?

It is a very different scenario to state 14,000 babies will die in 48 hours instead of 14,000 CHILDREN MAY SUFFER FROM MALNUTRITION over the course of a year, do you not agree?

No matter how hard it is for you to concede, you would just look ridiculous if you can’t!

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 12:53

Odras · 28/05/2025 11:59

they do have form for spreading anti Israel rumours that turn out to be untrue, like the 14,000 babies a different UN official said last Monday would die within 48 hours.

That’s a misrepresentation of what happened. One UN official said this incorrectly. However the report that these figures came from was correct (that these babies would die over a 12 month time frame) That is very different from the report itself being incorrect.

But yes I agree with you they can only say that it “appeared” to be caused by Israeli bullets. We have no certainly on what happened as no official party on the ground can be trusted.

Who do you think should investigate what happened?

The UN official gave a false report so it's feasible that another one would too.

In case anyone needs a reminder of the UN scaremongering:

After a top UN official told the BBC yesterday that some 14,000 babies in Gaza could die in the next 48 hours if aid does not reach them in time, the British broadcaster clarifies that this claim was false and based on an incorrect interpretation of a report issued by the UN’s Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC).

Tom Fletcher, the UN’s under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs, claimed yesterday on BBC Radio 4’s “Today” show: “There are 14,000 babies that will die in the next 48 hours unless we can reach them. I want to save as many as these 14,000 babies as we can in the next 48 hours.”

However, BBC now says that after asking the UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs for clarification, it turns out the remarks were based on an IPC report that warned that 14,100 severe cases of acute malnutrition were expected to occur between April 2025 and March 2026 among children aged between six months and five years.

This means that in fact, according to the UN report, not all of the 14,000 children are babies, they are not all expected to die, and — most notably — this is predicted to happen over the course of a full year, not 48 hours, if aid isn’t allowed into Gaza.

www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/debunked-un-officials-claim-14000-gazan-babies-could-die-in-48-hours-was-untrue/

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Odras · 28/05/2025 13:03

Yes I agree with you. He misquoted the report. However I’m pointing out that it’s not the same level of seriousness as the report itself being incorrect.

You didn’t answer my question. Who do you think should investigate this incident at the aid distribution?

Odras · 28/05/2025 13:04

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 12:52

It is a very different scenario to state 14,000 babies will die in 48 hours instead of 14,000 CHILDREN MAY SUFFER FROM MALNUTRITION over the course of a year, do you not agree?

No matter how hard it is for you to concede, you would just look ridiculous if you can’t!

Yes it’s completely different- I don’t disagree at all. I think it is very unfortunate that he said this. He has given ammunition to people who want to discredit the report itself.

Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 13:14

Odras · 28/05/2025 13:03

Yes I agree with you. He misquoted the report. However I’m pointing out that it’s not the same level of seriousness as the report itself being incorrect.

You didn’t answer my question. Who do you think should investigate this incident at the aid distribution?

I didn't say the report was wrong, I said the UN official was wrong.

It was a daft question... how am I supposed to know who should investigate this incident at the aid distribution? I don't think the UN can be trusted to be accurate but I expect the truth will come out just like it did with their incorrect statement about the 14.000 babies.

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 15:51

New Gaza aid group says second distribution center now open, also in Rafah

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation says it has successfully opened its second aid distribution center in Gaza, following the launch of its first site on Monday.

GHF “is continuing its operations today, opening another Safe Distribution Site and distributing aid without incident,” says the US-backed organization.
“The situation remains urgent. But every hour, more people are fed,” it adds.
According to the foundation, both sites are now fully operational.
Both are located in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip.
GHF says that the newly-opened site delivered “all available aid without incident — approximately 8 trucks worth.”

In total, GHF says it has distributed “approximately 14,550 food boxes,” or 840,262 meals across the two sites. Each box is intended to feed an average of 5.5 people for 3.5 days.

“Operations will continue scaling across all 4 sites, with plans to build additional sites across Gaza in the weeks ahead,” says the foundation.

Of the four planned centers, three will be located in Rafah, and the fourth will be slightly closer to the center of the Strip, south of the Netzarim Corridor.

Aid organizations have criticized the location of the sites, saying that the foundation is violating humanitarian principles by clustering them in one area, making them inaccessible to others across the enclave.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/new-gaza-aid-group-says-second-distribution-center-now-open-also-in-rafah/

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Twiglets1 · 28/05/2025 15:54

From the same article:

GHF, in its statement, also addresses what it calls false claims about the start of its operations, and reports of thousands of Gazans briefly overrunning the first distribution site yesterday.

GHF denies that the site was overrun or destroyed, and says it had “anticipated” coming under pressure “due to acute hunger and Hamas-imposed blockades, which create dangerous conditions outside the gates.”

“According to established protocol, for a brief moment, the GHF team intentionally relaxed its security protocols to safeguard against crowd reactions to finally receiving food,” it says of yesterday’s incident.

Responding to “misinformation circulating online,” the foundation stresses that no shots were fired toward the Palestinian crowds, and there were no casualties. It also says that no arrests were made, as “GHF has no detention or arrest authority.”

“As in all emergency response situations, particularly in conflict zones, this type of reaction from stressed beneficiary populations is expected and we remain prepared to continue providing life-saving assistance should disruptions occur,” says the group.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/new-gaza-aid-group-says-second-distribution-center-now-open-also-in-rafah/

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Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 16:02

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 16:02

The EU is also against this new model

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj937k0wg3do

"We don't support the privatisation of the distribution of humanitarian aid. Humanitarian aid can not be weaponised", she said.

HellsBalls · 28/05/2025 16:13

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 16:02

"We don't support the privatisation of the distribution of humanitarian aid. Humanitarian aid can not be weaponised", she said.

Well they are getting aid and anyone who goes there for food gets it.
The weaponisation of the aid seems to be coming from Hamas and their statements of retribution to Gazans taking the aid.

MissyB1 · 28/05/2025 17:14

HellsBalls · 28/05/2025 16:13

Well they are getting aid and anyone who goes there for food gets it.
The weaponisation of the aid seems to be coming from Hamas and their statements of retribution to Gazans taking the aid.

I wonder what you think the sick/injured/disabled should do about getting to these aid sites? You know the people who have had their limbs blown off by bombs perhaps? Or the very malnourished who are now too weak to walk? And before you suggest their family go for them, lots of people have no family left.

sualipa · 28/05/2025 17:40

Even Trump is rumored to be wavering. Netanyahu is dismantling Israel more effectively than Hamas ever could—perhaps that was the plan all along: to bring the house down on everyone, like Samson did but for the Philistines this time. When you lose America you have lost.

Sleepinggreyhounds · 28/05/2025 17:46

MissyB1 · 28/05/2025 17:14

I wonder what you think the sick/injured/disabled should do about getting to these aid sites? You know the people who have had their limbs blown off by bombs perhaps? Or the very malnourished who are now too weak to walk? And before you suggest their family go for them, lots of people have no family left.

This model will very much favour those with strong, male-headed households. Women and children without this will be massively disadvantaged.

HellsBalls · 28/05/2025 17:51

MissyB1 · 28/05/2025 17:14

I wonder what you think the sick/injured/disabled should do about getting to these aid sites? You know the people who have had their limbs blown off by bombs perhaps? Or the very malnourished who are now too weak to walk? And before you suggest their family go for them, lots of people have no family left.

I think there will be enough aid that their neighbors will help.
Also, Hamas is the government, they should organize something.

sualipa · 28/05/2025 17:55

It’s starting to look like mutually assured suicide. Netanyahu is staking everything on the future of Israel—not as its savior, but as its nemesis. If he launches an attack on Iran while the U.S. is engaged in diplomacy, all bets are off.

As things stand, Israel will have displaced Gaza’s entire population and taken over the areas where it used to live, amid a rising tide of domestic and international criticism, hoping that Hamas will feel sufficiently pressured as to free some or all of the hostages without a declared pledge by Netanyahu to end the war. The IDF fervently wishes that this will prove the case — in no small part because of the challenge of maintaining an open-ended hold on three-quarters of the Gaza Strip, when reservists are under unprecedented strain and there are multiple challenges on other fronts.

Hamas knows all this. Gaza’s ultra-cynical terrorist masters know that Trump is impatient. That Israel is increasingly isolated — diplomatically, economically, physically (especially since the Houthis hit Ben Gurion Airport), and in global public opinion. That even Germany, that most supportive of Israel’s allies given its special, terrible history, is now openly branding Israel’s current military operations unjustifiable.

Hamas knows, too, that Israel is itself riven, over the hostage-release strategy, over the inequality of the military burden under a government perpetuating ultra-Orthodox refusal to serve, and over the coalition’s far-right calls to permanently occupy and resettle the Strip — the overt long-term goal of Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben Gvir, without whose parties Netanyahu has no government.

And, of course, Hamas knows that Israel is riven over the moral implications of this phase of the conflict — the Jewish state forcing an entire populace from their homes, first pushing Gazans into deep hunger and now reluctantly struggling to supply aid.

Far from blinking, the fear is that Hamas, which cares nothing for Gazans and for the ruin it has brought down upon the Strip, is laughing.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/and-what-if-hamas-doesnt-blink/

AIBUHere · 28/05/2025 18:12

MissyB1 · 28/05/2025 17:14

I wonder what you think the sick/injured/disabled should do about getting to these aid sites? You know the people who have had their limbs blown off by bombs perhaps? Or the very malnourished who are now too weak to walk? And before you suggest their family go for them, lots of people have no family left.

What do you think happens in any other war, or is this one held in completely different regard to you? If so, why?

Surely people pull together and help each other in a war?

What about the so called non-bias NGOs and UN or do you agree with their stance on having no involvement in distributing this aid, because it was organised by Israel/the US to prevent Hamas using it for their war goals and control of the population they have already caused thousands of deaths of, so leaving the people you describe to starve?

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 18:19

Surely people pull together and help each other in a war?

Do you understand how the new system works?

Whatsinanamehey · 28/05/2025 18:19

Your comments tell me you don't.

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