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BBC paid our licence money to Hamas.

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RubyTuesday48 · 27/02/2025 21:39

No words. See BBC news for announcement and apology for 'serious flaws' over Gaza documentary.
Perhaps the 500 luvvies who lobbied for the documentary to be reinstated will also apologise for their stupidity.

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OpheliaWasntMad · 01/03/2025 07:44

israelilefty · 28/02/2025 07:21

Honestly this whole story drives me crazy because it is so utterly disrespectful of the Palestinian people. Stories from Gaza deserve to be told and heard, and a film crew who used Palestinian suffering for whatever their own artistic or political agenda was rather than applying the professional standards that they would in any other situation (not only for doing due diligence but also for checking the accuracy of the translation presented) has now wasted the emotional labour of the kids they used, and has squandered the funding for a film that could have been very widely seen, and could have been discussed for its content not for its unprofessionalism. Both Palestinians and the audiences who are interested in hearing their stories deserve better.

This sums it up

RosaAna · 01/03/2025 11:21

Article from the BBC

https://bbc.com/news/articles/c2d4egk17l2o

Interestingly Dorothy Byrne who was cited in the previous thread about the documentary quite rightly criticising the BBC for their lack of due diligence has said:

In her view the film isn't "pro-Hamas".
"Watching it, I was struck by the efforts at balance. It contains voices who curse the leaders of Gaza."

It's such a shame that lack of due diligence from the BBC has allowed those who wish to silence Palestinian voices to label this documentary as hamas propaganda.

To quote the article linked above

The losers in all this are the young citizens of Gaza. The stories of the children in this film - and the suffering they have endured - aren't now being seen.

BooToYouHalloween · 01/03/2025 12:02

RosaAna · 01/03/2025 11:21

Article from the BBC

https://bbc.com/news/articles/c2d4egk17l2o

Interestingly Dorothy Byrne who was cited in the previous thread about the documentary quite rightly criticising the BBC for their lack of due diligence has said:

In her view the film isn't "pro-Hamas".
"Watching it, I was struck by the efforts at balance. It contains voices who curse the leaders of Gaza."

It's such a shame that lack of due diligence from the BBC has allowed those who wish to silence Palestinian voices to label this documentary as hamas propaganda.

To quote the article linked above

The losers in all this are the young citizens of Gaza. The stories of the children in this film - and the suffering they have endured - aren't now being seen.

Edited

It is literally Hamas propaganda and no one is trying to “silence Palestinian voices”.

Thisandthatandthensome · 02/03/2025 22:46

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14451541/BBC-manipulated-terrorists-Gaza-documentary.html

BBC manipulated by terrorists. They aren't the only ones ones being manipulated either! Lots of people are

RosaAna · 02/03/2025 22:55

Thisandthatandthensome · 02/03/2025 22:46

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14451541/BBC-manipulated-terrorists-Gaza-documentary.html

BBC manipulated by terrorists. They aren't the only ones ones being manipulated either! Lots of people are

Edited

Danny Cohen, a prominent figure in London's Jewish community who regularly criticises the BBC's coverage of the war, accusing the broadcaster of anti-Israel bias.

Thisandthatandthensome · 03/03/2025 07:16

He's right

PurpleChrayn · 03/03/2025 07:46

It is incredible to me the lengths certain posters on here will go to in order to excuse Hamas and discredit Jews.

One of the many things I've come to understand since Oct 7 is that some people will defend absolutely ANYTHING if it means siding against Jews.

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 07:47

RosaAna · 02/03/2025 22:55

Danny Cohen, a prominent figure in London's Jewish community who regularly criticises the BBC's coverage of the war, accusing the broadcaster of anti-Israel bias.

Why did you feel the need to mention he is Jewish?

BooToYouHalloween · 03/03/2025 09:09

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 07:47

Why did you feel the need to mention he is Jewish?

Curious if that poster would be equally suspicious of Black people calling out racism - or is it only Jews who are inherently untrustworthy?

Thisandthatandthensome · 03/03/2025 09:43

PurpleChrayn · 03/03/2025 07:46

It is incredible to me the lengths certain posters on here will go to in order to excuse Hamas and discredit Jews.

One of the many things I've come to understand since Oct 7 is that some people will defend absolutely ANYTHING if it means siding against Jews.

💯

RosaAna · 03/03/2025 11:30

PurpleChrayn · 03/03/2025 07:46

It is incredible to me the lengths certain posters on here will go to in order to excuse Hamas and discredit Jews.

One of the many things I've come to understand since Oct 7 is that some people will defend absolutely ANYTHING if it means siding against Jews.

That post was not excusing Hamas or discrediting Jews. It was clearly stating facts.

It is increadible to me the lengths that certain individuals will go to to twist people's words with all kinds of accusations.

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 12:04

RosaAna · 03/03/2025 11:30

That post was not excusing Hamas or discrediting Jews. It was clearly stating facts.

It is increadible to me the lengths that certain individuals will go to to twist people's words with all kinds of accusations.

You saw fit to mention that he is Jewish, but not that he is the former controller of BBC1. Why?

It's clear that you were trying to dismiss his comments, and think that being Jewish makes his opinion less credible

RosaAna · 03/03/2025 12:12

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 12:04

You saw fit to mention that he is Jewish, but not that he is the former controller of BBC1. Why?

It's clear that you were trying to dismiss his comments, and think that being Jewish makes his opinion less credible

That's already written in the article.

ScrollingLeaves · 03/03/2025 12:26

It seems not infrequent that a report from an Arab or Palestinian about Gaza or The West Bank is discredited because they are Arab or Palestinian.

I also think a Hamas minister could not be worse than Ben Givr or Smotrich, or even Netanyahu. They are planning mass murder right now.

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 12:26

RosaAna · 03/03/2025 12:12

That's already written in the article.

What does him being Jewish add to the story that was missing, in your opinion?

RominaDina · 03/03/2025 12:28

israelilefty · 28/02/2025 07:21

Honestly this whole story drives me crazy because it is so utterly disrespectful of the Palestinian people. Stories from Gaza deserve to be told and heard, and a film crew who used Palestinian suffering for whatever their own artistic or political agenda was rather than applying the professional standards that they would in any other situation (not only for doing due diligence but also for checking the accuracy of the translation presented) has now wasted the emotional labour of the kids they used, and has squandered the funding for a film that could have been very widely seen, and could have been discussed for its content not for its unprofessionalism. Both Palestinians and the audiences who are interested in hearing their stories deserve better.

Exactly. That's the real problem. Our licence money misused in this way does not help.

RosaAna · 03/03/2025 12:31

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 12:26

What does him being Jewish add to the story that was missing, in your opinion?

You can continue to insinuate that my statement of fact is an indication that I am antisematic and a hamas supporter but I am not. And I am not going to engage in a petty argument with you either as is clearly your intention here.

noblegiraffe · 03/03/2025 12:33

So no explanation then.

BooToYouHalloween · 04/03/2025 19:18

ScrollingLeaves · 03/03/2025 12:26

It seems not infrequent that a report from an Arab or Palestinian about Gaza or The West Bank is discredited because they are Arab or Palestinian.

I also think a Hamas minister could not be worse than Ben Givr or Smotrich, or even Netanyahu. They are planning mass murder right now.

You don’t think they’re worse than Hamas, the people who paraded babies’ coffins around and then purposely returned the wrong mother’s body after overseeing the murder of all three and kept their bodies as trophies for over a year? Really?

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