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Conflict in the Middle East
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VolcanoJapan · 08/02/2025 20:19

So sad.

mollyfolk · 08/02/2025 22:28

My heart went out to these men today looking so very emancipated and weak.

i noticed the sign in the background saying We are the flood - the war’s next day. I assume a show of defiance against their (as in Hamas) removal.

Does anyone know what happens to the 7 people released into Egypt?

quantumbutterfly · 08/02/2025 22:45

mollyfolk · 08/02/2025 22:28

My heart went out to these men today looking so very emancipated and weak.

i noticed the sign in the background saying We are the flood - the war’s next day. I assume a show of defiance against their (as in Hamas) removal.

Does anyone know what happens to the 7 people released into Egypt?

It doesn't really speak of peaceful intent does it? Let's hope this tenuous ceasefire continues.

mollyfolk · 08/02/2025 23:05

Well no. Neither have Netanyahu’s words. Nor Trump. Not looking good. No words of peace in existence.

IAmAHomewardBounder · 09/02/2025 08:26

EasterIssland · 08/02/2025 06:48

Glad the ceasefire goes ahead and the right amounts of aid is entering Gaza

It was a shame Hamas sought to delay it and unfairly blamed Israel by lying about the aid trucks, wasn't it?

whatwouldyoudoifisangoutofkey · 10/02/2025 16:55

Well done peacemaker Trump.
BBC reporting that he's "doubling" down on his Gaza plans.
Palestinians no right of return.
And that the fighter arm of Hamas are now pausing the next release of hostages scheduled for Saturday until further notice.

BelleHathor · 11/02/2025 08:08

Idiotic megalomaniac Trump is going to plunge the whole region into war with his threats, including endangering not only the civilians (whom I doubt he cares about) but also the 1000s of American soldiers stationed there.

He doesn't understand that the region has already lost so much due to "American Intervention", perhaps he really is trying to remove America from the region forever.

VolcanoJapan · 11/02/2025 08:16

"Donald Trump says the Gaza ceasefire should be cancelled if all remaining Israeli hostages are not returned by noon on Saturday - as he warned Hamas that "all hell is going to break out"."

I imagine after seeing the state of the last 3 hostages (in stark contrast to the cheering mob, when the fat, spruced up hamas, in their lovely cleaned vehicles) said that one of the hostages brothers was dead. Then asked what a hostage was looking forward to (seeing his family) when they knew, they were already dead.

They also know the fate of the remaining hostages, some are dead, but refuse to say or allow inspection of their condition.

I think some of the less deluded people are waking up to the fact that Hamas will never improve the life's of ordinary people but continue the hate which leads to grief on both sides. The more hard-core who think their resistance of rape, torture and kidnap and murder is good and dandy won't change.

The other Arab states have found to their cost previously that providing help to some Palestinians ends in misery for them, so they won't help. Iran has gone pretty quiet after supplying weapons to hamas (and hezbollah et al). Hamas are alone apart from the support of their cheering crowds and useful idiots in the west.

EasterIssland · 11/02/2025 19:16

Benjamin Netanyahu has said that Israel will resume fighting in Gaza if Hamas does not release all of its hostages by noon on Saturday, endorsing a threat by Donald Trump that would shatter the three-week-old ceasefire between the two sides.
Netanyahu’s ultimatum was delivered during a video address posted to social media account on Tuesday. “The military will return to intense fighting until Hamas is finally defeated,” he said.

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whar makes him think that he’ll defeat Hamas if he hasn’t been able to the last 15 months/ years? He’s

EasterIssland · 11/02/2025 19:19

Regarding Jordan

Some more now from the news briefing by Jordan's King Abdullah and President Trump.
King Abdullah announced a plan to resettle ill children to Jordan in a move welcomed by Trump.
"One of the things that we can do right away is take 2,000 children that are either cancer children or in very ill state to Jordan as quickly as possible," King Abdullah says.
"Two thousand children with cancer or other problems, that's really a beautiful gesture, that's really good and we appreciate it," Trump says.

BelleHathor · 12/02/2025 20:50

Reports from Gaza that the highest number of trucks (801) entered today.

This is after a New York Times article that confirmed that Israel had been breaking the ceasefire:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/world/middleeast/trump-israel-gaza-cease-fire-deal-jordan.html

"The current standoff stems in part from Hamas’s accusation that Israel has not upheld its promises for the first phase of the cease-fire. Israel was required to send hundreds of thousands of tents into Gaza, a promise that Hamas says Israel has not kept.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter, three Israeli officials and two mediators said that Hamas’s claims were accurate."

The fact that Israeli officials would confirm this, points to the issues likely coming from Netanyahu's office, as a return to war means his legal problems would be delayed again.

EasterIssland · 17/02/2025 20:12

Most Israelis prefer sticking with hostage release deal’s 2nd phase over returning to war — poll

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/most-israelis-prefer-sticking-with-hostage-release-deals-2nd-phase-over-returning-to-war-poll/

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hope this is the case and t he government listens to its citizens (wishful thinking I know)

VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:29

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/17/middleeast/hamas-will-not-disarm-gaza-israel-intl/index.html

Hamas intend to keep fighting.

VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:30

VolcanoJapan · 18/02/2025 18:29

This is clear indication that there is no future for Gaza with Hamas in charge.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 18/02/2025 18:36

I see reports Hamas have said the bibas mum and two kids are dead and will be handed over on Thursday.

What state will they be in? How do Hamas look after dead bodies?

Oodiks · 18/02/2025 18:39

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 18/02/2025 18:36

I see reports Hamas have said the bibas mum and two kids are dead and will be handed over on Thursday.

What state will they be in? How do Hamas look after dead bodies?

I dread to think.

SharonEllis · 18/02/2025 20:19

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 18/02/2025 18:36

I see reports Hamas have said the bibas mum and two kids are dead and will be handed over on Thursday.

What state will they be in? How do Hamas look after dead bodies?

Can we please not speculate?

EasterIssland · 19/02/2025 18:26

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/19/hamas-hostages-israel-gaza-ceasefire-agreement-second-phase

Hamas has said it is ready to release all its remaining hostages in a single exchange if the ceasefire agreement with Israel moves forward to a second phase next month.

Scirocco · 22/02/2025 19:29

Still waiting for the release of the Palestinian prisoners. This is horrible, both waiting for the news and knowing the price that's being paid, both now and likely in the future. People are waiting for loved ones who were taken and held without charge... But with them (if they are released) will come some names that will make people's blood run cold. Al-Zaben is apparently due for release today...

Liv999 · 22/02/2025 19:41

Scirocco · 22/02/2025 19:29

Still waiting for the release of the Palestinian prisoners. This is horrible, both waiting for the news and knowing the price that's being paid, both now and likely in the future. People are waiting for loved ones who were taken and held without charge... But with them (if they are released) will come some names that will make people's blood run cold. Al-Zaben is apparently due for release today...

I hope those who were taken and held without charge are released soon 🙏

Scirocco · 23/02/2025 06:35

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjry4nqw4z0o

@Liv999

Scirocco · 23/02/2025 06:36

The release of Palestinians has been "delayed" indefinitely.

gloriagloria · 23/02/2025 09:12

israel has been dragging it’s feet for a while about the second phase. I really hope this can be put back on track.

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