Why the need to cover up ?

[NecessaryNC24]

Genuine question: why do pro -Hamas protesters feel the need to cover their faces during protests.

Are you ultimately ashamed ?

If that was the reason I would understand, to be affiliated with terrorists, where actual infants are still held as hostages if not actually dead yet, yeah I'd be truly ashamed.

What an interesting twix she has.

Filthy hate speech? For apologising?

Doesn't fit your narrative does it?

It's almost June and you've just decided to check disinformation on the hamas attack last October.

Is it possible the situation is more complicated than Israel guilty, Gaza innocent?

And???
I still checked.

I seen the dead managed naked body of a woman on the back of a pick up truck. A man grabbed her by her hair and raised her lifeless head - the crowd were cheering and spitting on her body. She had been to a festival.

I seen a woman being dragged out of the back of a 4x4 by her hair. She had blood on the seat of her pants. Her hands were bound and her ankles had lacerations. She was a female soldier who was later found dead

Those were the first two live videos on Twitter that morning.

Dont you dare deny those women were raped. What the fuck is wrong with you people 🤯

Mangled** not managed

@Hugosmaid
Read my post. I apologised.

@NecessaryNC24 if you want to know why actual supporters of a proscribed terrorist organisation might cover their faces, direct from them, you'd really need to ask them. I've explained a possible reason, but it sounds like you actually want to hear from them directly, so you'd need to go find them and ask them.

Most of my recent direct experience of violent thugs and extremists has been with the EDL and similar and people out supporting the IDF, but I'd imagine the basic principles of being bullies and wanting to avoid consequences for their actions would likely apply.

I think “actual supporters of a proscribed terrorist organisation” covers it, per PP. That doesn’t mean that everyone or even a majority of people on these marches are pro-Hamas, but it acknowledges that there is a cohort which is. There is also a cohort that doesn’t know their arse from their elbow when it comes to the Middle East but are happy to sling on a keffiyeh and chant “from the river to the sea”, which frankly I find more dangerous and problematic.

To be fair, there isn't a lot of anti Hamas sentiment though is there? In my line of work I engage with a lot of university students and many of them have told me they regard Hamas as freedom fighters. None of them seem to be talking about women's, girl's or gay rights under that regime.

Palestine must be free but it must also be freed from its misogynistic, medieval rulers as well.

I think part of the issue there is when gays and women and girls are being blown to pieces and starved to death that is kind of more of a pressing issue than whether or not Palestine has a pride parade. Israels policies in Gaza are disproportionately affecting women and girls, girls are struggling with their periods, children are more prone to malnutrition and starvation, pregnant and breast feeding women are being affected terribly with lack of adequate food and health care. Israel are right now the biggest threat to anyone in Gaza. To start talking about gay rights etc at a time when everybody is being blown to pieces and starved seems like whataboutery. Lots of things should happen after but right now there are clearly more pressing issues.

It takes a lot to shock me but on a site like MN it hits a new level, maybe I'd have unfortunately expected it from Reddit or YouTube.

But fucking women deliberately Disbelieving fellow girls and women that have been RAPED in fear of their lives, some didn't live, how anyone can deny the footage of that poor girl Shani Louk I will never know.

If you are parents of girls you should be thoroughly ashamed , and yes, I understand now the inclination to cover your face. You've made that clear.

Maybe you should've spend the two minutes needed to check that before automatically saying such a disgusting thing about rape victims.

@blurry5205 it had been debunked at first fairly recently after doubts about Nat Schwartz's report in the New York Times.
I failed to carry on researching. However I did research again for the purpose of this post. Is that alright now?

To me, if you are going to participate in a controversial (and they are) marches, then you should expect that you will be monitored and should not be wearing a face covering.

If you don't like that, then don't participate. We need to be able to identify everybody so everybody can be safe. CCTV everywhere now and oh boy, we do need it. It is at football grounds, stores, nearly every street.

If you are worried about infection, don't participate, worried about being identified, don't participate, worried about being on record, don't participate.

Simple.

I completely condemn the actions of Israel against women and children in Gaza but that comment disgusts me.
I know you withdrew it later but to even consider that being true is absolutely awful and a half arsed apology later does not make it ok.

I think it was Bibi not scirroco.tbf

Exactly the same is true of people who support Israel - honestly this is laughable now.

@quantumbutterfly thanks I've reported my post. Apologies @Scirocco .

I meant to @BibiSuzanne

It would be nice to live in a world where people weren't at risk of violence, harassment and danger to their families if they express legitimate views on politics and human rights.

Once EDL thugs, pro-IDF guys and the like stop threatening people's families and trying to follow people home while carrying weapons, maybe then there would be more grounds to say people should not wear face coverings.

People with health reasons for wearing face coverings also have every right to attend political and other protest/demonstration events.

@ it wasn't half arsed at all. As soon as I posted it I thought I'd better make sure, so I researched again. I didn't apologise pages after. So it was genuine.

I don't know why you feel the need to talk about gay pride parades. You obviously didn't read my post properly or you have a tendency to reduce serious subjects to triviality for your own purposes.

I'm talking about the murder, torture and persecution of LGBTQ people in Gaza under Hamas rule.

I'm also talking about legalised violence against women and girls. There is no law in Gaza that prohibits violence of any kind, including rape, within the family and whilst Hamas are in power there never will be.

I finished my post by saying that Palestine should be free. I also said that ultimately it needs to be free from Hamas. A sentiment shared by many Palestinians. Unless you agree with Hamas' strict interpretation of Sharia law and see it as a force for good then I don't know why my words have outraged you so much.

@ginasevern I'm not sure where you got 'outrage' from tbh, that seems a little exaggerated. I was giving my opinion that if you omit the biggest threat women and girls in Gaza have ever faced then it comes across as whataboutery. You can't deny that that is a far more pressing issue, that is what is focused in lots of feminists minds right now, helping the women and girls who are being disproportionately and cruely affected by Israels bombardment. Like I said when this is over I'm sure the focus may change, most people don't expect Hamas to be in power then but right now stopping the immediate, horrific suffering of women and girls in Gaza takes priority for most.

You might have apologised but you clearly think it was fake otherwise you wouldn’t have said it 🤯