Why is the US supplying bombs to Israel?

[EmilyBronte82]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68974624

Why is the US doing this? If it’s necessary for Israel to attack Gaza why can’t they fund it themselves?

Palestinians in Israeli jail's to be set free, amongst whom are terrorists
This is inaccurate. Israel are not going to release convicted terrorists. If they haven't been convicted how do you know they're terrorists? Convict them or release them, many should never have been held in Israeli prisons without charge.

So 100 hostages still being held is ok by you I suppose!
None of this is ok. Hostages need to be released and Israel need to stop, bombing and killing innocent civilians and children and let humanitarian aid in so people don't die of starvation. Israel rejected the deal not because of the terms but because they want to go in to Rafah. Netanyahu stopped caring about the hostages a long time ago

There was massive and repeated intelligence reports it was going to happen. The whole border has massive high fences with huge rolls of barbed wire and watch towers, and surveillance cameras everywhere, and very sophisticated military equipment, drones, etc- all along the border. It took quit a while for Hamas to destroy the fences with heavy machinery before getting through, and quite a significant distance to the kibbutz.

Why was the festival allowed to go ahead so close to a border which was threatened with multiple and repeated intelligence warnings?

Why were the perpetrators not spotted by the sophisticated surveillance equipment?

Why were the perpetrators not shot/bombed there and then by the very sophisticated military Israeli equipment.

WHY?

Dulra my post was a direct response to @ConnieCounter who appears to think all the hostages were to be freed by Hamas.

Netanyahou has always stated that the hostages have to be freed and Hamas in Gaza destroyed.

I appear to think that because that is what happened.

They're never going to destroy Hamas either so I guess they're just going to keep destroying Gaza until it's gone.

ConnieCounter I asked you up thread to provide the responsible source that you saw stating that ALL the hostages would be released when my source states only 30.

And I explained that there are three parts to the deal. I don't understand why you aren't able to google this for yourself but here you are:

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/5/6/text-of-the-ceasefire-proposal-approved-by-hamas

Sky is reporting that senior Israeli officials are really frustrated that the US have halted weapons transfers.
The US have said they haven't decided if they will continue for now due to the weapons being used in the assault of Rafah which is densely populated.

This point indicates there are around 33 hostages still alive I’d say?

• If there are fewer than 33 living Israeli detainees to be released, a number of bodies from the same categories shall be released to complete this stage. In return, Israel will release all women and children who were arrested from the Gaza Strip after October 7, 2023 – provided this is done in the fifth week of this stage.

@EmilyBronte82 for the purposes of the negotiations, the hostages have been 'categorised' (what a horrible idea - they're all somebody's loved one, they're all people and they should all never have been abducted in the first place). For example, children, elderly people and people with serious health conditions might be grouped together in a 'category', while physically able males of IDF-service age might be a different 'category'. What the point says is, I think, that if there are fewer than the specified number within a 'category', then the bodies of deceased people who would have been in that 'category' would be returned and included within the numbers.

@Scirocco thank you for explaining.

The Americans are allies to Israel but there's also a cultural component. Most Americans believe in a right to defend yourself and your country. Israel was brutally attacked. They didn't start it but they're sure going to finish it.

Which, if agreed, would lead to the terrorists killing hostages and then returning the bodies instead of returning them alive. Which obviously makes it an absolutely ridiculous and unacceptable demand. I'm sure everyone can agree with that.

a significant amount of funding for the IRA during the Troubles came from the US.

so I don’t find this surprising.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68980820

The US have now openly said they have halted weapons transfers to Israel due to their planned offensive on Rafah and the high civilian casualties it would lead to
They have given their ultimatum. US bombs or Rafah?
And have also made it clear that the invasion of Rafah will be crossing the red line
Tbh what we are seeing now which Israel has said is 'limited and precise' is horrific enough. Most of the doctors interviewed have said the majority of the casualties they are receiving are women and children
Will the UK also halt weapons transfers now?
And will Netanyahu openly defy Biden and continue with the planned offensive of Rafah?

Not quite sure how this comparison works. The US government funds & supports the State of Israel as a key ally. Support for the IRA terrorists was channelled mostly through NORAID which was an independent organisation that was not supported by the US government & often criticised & limited by US govts because it was linked to republican terrorism. The US government cod hardly support terrorists attacking one of its key allies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68984999

This x 100 !

As someone who has a sub and very much enjoys the NYT it really doesn’t, there are a lot of opinions pieces.

In the polls in the USA there is still more support for Israel than Palestine.

https://apnews.com/article/resignation-gaza-war-biden-israel-a55c20d136f08127d16bce6ced1af82d

@EasterIssland Not sure how this is important as Biden won't be in office much longer ;

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-has-lost-support-across-all-groups-of-americans-but-especially-independents-and-hispanics/

So Biden's staff resigning are just rats leaving a sinking ship

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2024/05/15/joe-biden-donald-trump-polls-election-2024-s-e-cupp-column

Not only they provide the bombs but they happily sign on them

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/28/nikki-haley-finish-them-missile-israel