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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel bombs Iran.

44 replies

patsy999 · 19/04/2024 07:30

Breaking on BBC News.

OP posts:
60andsomething · 19/04/2024 09:37

O for goodness sake, I thought you meant something had happened. This was all hours ago and has been analysed to death already

No one was hurt. No one was going to be hurt. No one in any of the fly over countries are remotely bothered, presumably because they agreed and knew there were no risks.

Totally harmless and all for show. Nothing aggressive. Iran was probably warned in advance too

60andsomething · 19/04/2024 09:39

Your ridiculous, pathetic and alarmist title really made me think that there was actually something new and serious that had happened, rather than a bully got a firework thrown at them so the thrower can pretend they had done something

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/04/2024 09:39

Please all, CALM DOWN

This attacked was expected by me as per my thread a week ago, IE Israel will inform Iran via third part re time and date on a very limited attack on an older, one of the many airlfieds that is set in square miles and is loosely linked to their nuclear workshops

I also said if anything is jhit it would be old, disused building on the whole and only smaller missiles will be used

Hopefully as predicted by me, Iran will rant and rave for public consumption and this saga will be over

IMO, Israel will now in the coming days eradicate the last stronghold of Hamas in the part of Gaza i IDF has not full addressed.

End

TokyoSushi · 19/04/2024 09:39

It's fine, Israel & Iran are ridiculous, like 2 kids poking each other in the back of a car. They just need to be careful that they don't poke too hard and somebody really kicks off.

statsfun · 19/04/2024 09:49

Newbutoldfather · 19/04/2024 08:56

It’s all a bit weird, like two boxers lightly slapping each other on the cheek.

I don’t think either Israel or Iran wants a full scale war but they may end up having one anyway.

Iran launches a bunch of projectiles designed to be intercepted and Israel counters with a symbolic attack so light it appears to have done next to no damage.

The problem is whether Iran now feel compelled to live up to their threat of a more significant operation and then Israel may do something very serious, like attempting to take out Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Maybe the above is Israel’s intention, provoke a serious strike without being considered the aggressor and get U.S support for something far more significant.

It is quite weird, isn't it!

Iran retaliate with 150 missiles and 170 drones, but make sure that Israel could shoot them down.

Israel retaliate with just some drones, which have apparently caused no damage.

Iran plays it down so that they don't have to retaliate.

They're both trying to de-escalate, but in a way that doesn't leave them having been attacked last!

And all the way along, the US keep shouting as loudly as they can that they'll defend Israel but they aren't going to attack - so that no one else needs to get involved.

I wonder whether this will change the balance at all? Will Iran be any more cautious about using it's proxies against Israel in the future? That was presumably Israel's intention in assassinating the Iranian commander Mohammed Reza Zahedi who was heavily involved in previous proxy attacks against Israel, apparently including October 7th.

ConnieCounter · 19/04/2024 09:49

If only they were so careful when they bomb Gaza.

60andsomething · 19/04/2024 09:55

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/04/2024 09:39

Please all, CALM DOWN

This attacked was expected by me as per my thread a week ago, IE Israel will inform Iran via third part re time and date on a very limited attack on an older, one of the many airlfieds that is set in square miles and is loosely linked to their nuclear workshops

I also said if anything is jhit it would be old, disused building on the whole and only smaller missiles will be used

Hopefully as predicted by me, Iran will rant and rave for public consumption and this saga will be over

IMO, Israel will now in the coming days eradicate the last stronghold of Hamas in the part of Gaza i IDF has not full addressed.

End

Edited

Exactly - this thread title is so irresponsible and alarmist. This OP is trying to drum up hysteria and massive drama.

To what end, you have to ask. Why does someone want to do that?

Are you hoping for some sort of outrage, or aggression on drama here?

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/04/2024 10:15

@Devilshands I meant if Israel did. Which they did, in Syria.

I think they may actually want to provoke a wider conflict, that's the tragedy of it.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/04/2024 10:17

There is some fine gaslighting on this thread.

Provoke a war, then blame the people criticising it for causing alarm . Where did you learn to do that?

Newbutoldfather · 19/04/2024 10:18

I think Israel was sending a message that they could get to Iran’s uranium enrichment if they wanted to.

Hence the choice of target.

PurpleChrayn · 19/04/2024 10:18

Pancakee · 19/04/2024 08:28

I can’t believe that the majority of people in Israel support this. Can they not get someone else in charge?

They don't!

Noicant · 19/04/2024 10:18

Auvergne63 · 19/04/2024 08:47

Israel is directly attacking Iran but that's ok, despite Iran having stated that, as you put it, "the matter is closed".
What do you expect Iran to do now? They have a right to self defence, don't they?
Israel is behaving like a bully who has the back up of his big brother. Remove it and Israel has a serious problem.
Don't poke the bear if you are not prepared to face the consequences.

No not really, it’s a tit for tat. Iran has been funding attacks on Israel for decades (including Israeli embassies) it’s just that they use proxies who take their blow back for them. It’s a cowardly regime. This isn’t just about the last few weeks, this has been a quiet war for years.

I don’t approve of what Israel is doing atm. Thats separate from the actions of Iran which are insidious and destabilising.

Iran is pretending nothing happened precisely so they don’t have to respond.

Noicant · 19/04/2024 10:19

Newbutoldfather · 19/04/2024 10:18

I think Israel was sending a message that they could get to Iran’s uranium enrichment if they wanted to.

Hence the choice of target.

Exactly, it’s a message.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 19/04/2024 10:23

60andsomething · 19/04/2024 09:55

Exactly - this thread title is so irresponsible and alarmist. This OP is trying to drum up hysteria and massive drama.

To what end, you have to ask. Why does someone want to do that?

Are you hoping for some sort of outrage, or aggression on drama here?

Agreed

I'm confident that this episode will be over

Hamas will be good as eradicated soon
About Iran claiming any attack will result in them building nuke, IMO they already have a few

Hopefully, both Iran and Israels leaders understand the other

As in any conflict, the leader are comfortable in their bunkers, its the ordinary people that loose

Iran is controlled by a dictator and his cronies and Israel is not far off but the dangerous thing is both are lead by fundamentally weak leaders. Weak leaders always put themselves first and you last and both regimes need to be removed

This is the end of the saga apart from tomorrows press making something out of almost nothing.

Gaza will be a great place once war is over and Hamas gone and settlers from west bank removed by Israel as they removed them from Gaza

End of saga

medianewbie · 19/04/2024 10:38

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/04/2024 09:18

I feel very strongly that we in the uk should wash our hands of it. We gain nothing by supporting them and potentially lose a great deal.

I agree. UK intervention in the Middle East has never gone well & it wont now.
We should stop selling arms to anyone. We should stop being a USA poodle.
The only thing we should be doing is offering Aid to victims on all sides.
Russian & Israeli children bleed just the same as Ukrainian & Palestinian ones, whatever the rights & wrongs of the adults supposedly 'running' their countries. I have my opinions of who is morally 'better' o/c but what does that matter? Aid is the 1 thing we can offer.
But of course Cameron will keep trotting around with his 'concerned' face on. Thank God its not Johnson who would no doubt make things worse.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/04/2024 10:39

The thing which causes alarm is bombing other people's countries and threatening nuclear arsenals. As you well know. Stop gaslighting.

MissyB1 · 19/04/2024 11:59

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 19/04/2024 09:18

I feel very strongly that we in the uk should wash our hands of it. We gain nothing by supporting them and potentially lose a great deal.

100% agree, unfortunately our incredibly stupid government will carry on supporting Israel, and giving zero fucks about the UK population.

TextureSeeker · 19/04/2024 12:48

Pancakee · 19/04/2024 08:28

I can’t believe that the majority of people in Israel support this. Can they not get someone else in charge?

Polls show that whilst most Israelis don't support Netanyahu they do support a lot of his war policies. The majority of Israelis support the war in Gaza, support the witholding of aid and don't support an independent, demilitarised Palestinian state. So although they may not like him a lot do support his politics and are pro Gaza war and are pro military occupation. I'm not sure there is reason to believe if Netanyahu went Israels policies would actually change all that much.

LSTMS30555 · 19/04/2024 18:09

AgentProvocateur · 19/04/2024 08:41

And yet the U.K. and US continue to fund and arm Israel. Netenyahu needs removed.

You're wrong we don't fund Isreal in anyway; we do supply them in weapons in exchange for intelligence.
Can't remember where I read or heard it the other day but in 2023 alone Isreals intelligence stopped 7 would be terrorist attacks on the UK.

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