Israeli hostage describes graphic sexual assault

[MsAmerica]

Israeli hostage describes graphic sexual assault, beatings, torture in Gaza
By Patrick Kingsley and Ronen Bergman

Soussana described to The Times being detained at roughly half a dozen sites, including private homes, an office and a subterranean tunnel. But, her first stop was a luxury private home where she was watched by a guard who called himself Muhammad.

The Israeli lawyer said he repeatedly started asking her about her sex life and when her period was due while she was held alone in a child’s bedroom and chained by her left ankle. She said he would sometimes sit beside her on the bed, lift her shirt and touch her.

Then, on the morning of October 24, Muhammad unchained her from the bed and led her to the bathroom, where she undressed and began washing herself in the bathtub. Before she was finished, he returned and stood in the doorway, holding a pistol.

https://dnyuz.com/2024/03/27/israeli-hostage-describes-graphic-sexual-assault-beatings-torture-in-gaza/

From Wikipedia

During the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, around 10,000 Jews were forced to evacuate their homes in Palestine or Israel.[83] The war indirectly resulted in the Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim lands. Largely because of the war between Jews and Arabs in Palestine, hundreds of thousands of Jews who lived in the Arab states were intimidated into flight, or were expelled from their native countries, most of them reaching Israel. The immediate reasons for this exodus were both the popular Arab hostility, including pogroms and anti-Jewish governmental measures,[84] as well as the desire of many Jewish people to join the newly established State of Israel.

My understanding is that the Jewish population were given some land post WW2 as they had been persecuted elsewhere. According to this article Jews were forced out by Arab lands.

I was surprised when I visited Berlin about 10 years ago to learn that the synagogues still needed 24hr security guards. So for whatever reason Jews are still targeted (prior to this recent war).

I don't know why different religions can't live alongside each other - I'm not religious. However it seems to cause arguments worldwide.

Weirdly, no "Jews" are not a country. No country is people, countries are land.

Jews are an ethnoreligous group. This means it is both an ethnicity (similar to Arab, Chinese, Caribbean etc.) and a religion. You can be ethnically Jewish and not practise the religion.

Israel is a country. Israelis are the citizens of the country of Israel. Around 73% of Israelis are Jews. Around 22% are Arabs. Many Israelis have family history in the region going back generations.

Israel happens to be the only country on earth with a majority Jewish population. Approximately 49 countries have a Muslim majority. Around 158 countries have a Christian majority.

Jewish people have been historically persecuted across the globe. Including being expelled from a significant number of countries and treated as "lesser" in a larger number of others (including having less than full rights, being forced to wear identification of their Jewishness etc.).

In a country where the majority of people are Jewish, Jewish people can feel safer because they are very unlikely to elect a government will enact laws to treat them that way.

In a country where Jewish people are a minority group - which is every country except Israel, Jewish people can never out vote a law to expel them simply for being Jewish.

Having Israel remain as a Jewish majority country is quite important to a lot of Jewish people.

You might not agree with that and that's fine. You're entitled to an opinion.

But I wonder who you think does deserve a country? Are Germans or Dutch people or the English more entitled to a country than Israelis? How about Serbians or Kosovans? Crimean Tatars? Why?

It's disturbing that people's first response to hearing about a Jewish woman being raped is to spew anti-Semitism.

Agreed

This happens all the time. There are too many posters on here who spend all their time explaining the “context” of October 7th to try to make it seem an inevitable and understandable response to Israeli oppression.

This is the Times of Israel’s report from March.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/released-hostage-amit-soussana-reveals-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-hamas-captor/

Soussana’s account was on one of the threads a few weeks back. It is extraordinarily brave of her to expose herself to the world by telling what happened to her. I read before that she spoke to the investigators after her release, but this more public revelation was so as to be sure people properly understand the horrific plight of the hostages, and do everything they can to bring about their release.

It is impossible to contemplate the horror of having endured this and the complete stress of such a captivity day after day for three months, and now it is double that for the remaining hostages.

Her captor said he was bad afterwards.

A man with a gun in a state of complete power over a helpless woman is a dangerous monster who may corrupt himself with that power, as this one evidently did. The Hamas leadership who denied anything like this could ever have happened were wrong of course.

No one denies the claim, it is no excuse to invade a country and kill 30,000 civilians and injure another 100,000. That is no anti Semitic just a plain and simple fact.

dubsie the internet is full of claims that the rapes and butchering on 7 October didn't happen. That is antisemitic.
FYI Hamas invaded Israel (not the other way round) and broke an existing ceasefire.

The first post in this thread denied it. And your now deleted post was antisemitic.

I wonder about the female hostages who haven't been released and if any of them are pregnant by now? It's absolutely horrendous to think about.

Basically a sick pervert.

Moved from home to home so difficult to rescue.

The first post. Not your first post.

@dubsie Israel was created by us for the Jewish people, they promised Palestine to the Jews in exchange for support for war. Clearly this was wrong but that's history for you and you can't change that fact. The question is how you move forward and create a peaceful settlement.

the British intended to partition Palestine into two states Jewish and Arab.
The plan was adopted and recommended by the United Nations.
However, like the partition of India, neither side was happy and civil war broke out.

Whilst your points are good I find your flippant remark about a handful of people being raped by Hamas very insensitive and frankly quite distasteful.

The Times of Israel reported this earlier. It also gives account of how horribly Soussana was beaten by a subsequent group of guards she was moved to after the one who sexually abused her.

There is no question it all happened, what she relates is quite clearly beyond making up. She told this publicly to try to help the remaining hostages be remembered and the urgency of their plight be acted upon. How brave she is to have done this.

Released hostage Amit Soussana recounts sexual assault at hands of Hamas captor | The Times of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/released-hostage-amit-soussana-reveals-she-was-sexually-assaulted-by-hamas-captor/

After he sexually assaulted her, Soussana said the guard told her, “I’m bad, I’m bad, please don’t tell Israel,” as if to show remorse.

She rejected initial offers of food, but eventually relented in order to appease her abusive captor.

“You can’t stand looking at him — but you have to: He’s the one who’s protecting you, he’s your guard,” Soussana stated. “You’re there with him and you know that every moment it can happen again. You’re completely dependent on him.”

Who can imagine being so trapped? It is a nightmare.

Well, it depends on where you get your news.

That's was on the front page of the New York Times, one of the world's major newspapers, so it did make some headlines.

There's something that an awful lot of people are missing, when they are busy feeling sorry for the Gazans civilians.

People need to keep in mind that Gazans voluntarily elected Hamas, a known terrorist group. And Hamas, after murdering opponents, has refused to hold elections in the dozen years since then. Yet Gazans protest against Israel, but not against their own rulers who divert funds into secret tunnels, and the population continues to nurture and lionized suicide bombers and the equivalent.

Pray, do tell what you think that - by your own standards - people who not once but repeatedly voted for Netanyahu and, most recently, also for literal fascists like Smotrich and the convicted terrorist supporter Ben-Gvir deserve?!

By the way, quite apart from the fact that the election you complain about was in 2006 ... the Palestinian electoral system at the time was sort of similar to ours, a.k.a. "perfectly possible to end up with a lot more seats than your actual share of the vote" - which is precisely what happened!

Now, pray, do tell because of whom out of our elected leaders of recent years you are happy to be killed?

Personally, I'm going to have to go for that cabbage that outlasted Truss. While not technically elected, if I'm going to take "collective punishment", I'll pick the "maximally absurd" option so that I can at least laugh about my dire fate!

If there was anything pleasant in Soussana's account it was Mohammed admitting that he was bad and begging Soussana not to tell Israel what he had done. Good to hear he is afraid.
Well, Mohammed, I expect the IDF read the newspapers and are known to be persistent in responding to barbaric acts against Jews.

NYT isn't my first port of call, as I'm not American. When I posted that comment it hadn't made any headlines of a number of news outlets I use.

"But this is totally acceptable because a handful of people got raped at the hands of Hamas...."

What a disgusting thing to say. I'm not surprised its said on here though going by the hatred of Jewish people that rape of Jewish women might be described thus on mn.

Is there a particular reason you doubt a woman telling of her rape?

What made you think it's not 'legit'

Can you not bring yourself to believe someone holding a kidnapped woman might rape her? I mean quite happy to hold a kidnapped woman against her wishes but you don't think the rape happened? Why?

Rape is an appalling crime yet you don't think this rape happened. Why?

Do they value women so low that they were surprised by the retaliation.

It's hot nothing at all to do with it. The poster just hates Jewish people.