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Conflict in the Middle East

Teaching Hatred

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UnSognoAVenezia · 27/12/2023 23:55

INTERNATIONAL LAW
The use and recruitment of children under the age of 15 as soldiers is not only illegal under international law, but is also defined as a war crime by the International Criminal Court.

This law applies both to state armed forces and non-state armed forces; in other words, Palestinian groups cannot claim innocence for using children in combat under the guise that their paramilitary groups are not acting on behalf of a sovereign nation.

In 2005, Amnesty International stated: “Palestinian armed groups have repeatedly shown total disregard for the most fundamental human rights, notably the right to life, by deliberately targeting Israeli civilians and by using Palestinian children in armed attacks.”

The psychological effects for child soldiers are devastating. Research conducted among Palestinian and Ugandan child soldiers found that 50 percent of former child soldiers experience post-traumatic stress disorder. Others suffer from major depressive disorder, hostility, sadness, low self-confidence, and an inability to cope with daily life.

HISTORY
The recruitment of minors for combat by Palestinian militants dates back to the final years of the Ottoman occupation of Palestine (1517-1917). Youths were at the forefront of the opposition against Jewish immigration, and an attitude developed that children had a “duty to sacrifice themselves.”

During the infamous 1929 Hebron Massacre, when 69 Jews were murdered and the most ancient continuous Jewish community in Palestine was decimated, Arab youths instigated the violence.

As relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab world developed, the powerful Husseini family founded the Palestinian Arab Party, modeled after the Nazi Party in Germany. Inspired by the Hitler Youth, the party created a Nazi-like scout group named “Al-Futuwwa.” That same year, the A-Futuwwa youth corps began Nazi-inspired military training. Al-Futuwwa adopted the following motto: “Liberty is my right; independence is my goal; Arabism is my principle; Palestine is my country and mine only. This I attest and God is a witness to my words.”

With the establishment of the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1964, the PLO created military training programs for boys and girls.

During the First Intifada (1987-1993), a culture of Palestinian youth stone-throwing emerged, quickly linking stone-throwing to martyrdom. During the Second Intifada (2000-2005), at least nine children carried out suicide bombings against Israelis.

TRAINING CAMPS
As stated above, the first militarized training camps for Palestinian children were established in the 1930s, inspired by the Hitler Youth. The group was known as Al-Futuwwa.

This practice resurged with the establishment of the PLO in 1964. Palestinian children were subjected to military training with the aim of “strengthening Palestinian national self-awareness” and upholding a “revolutionary culture.”

In 2000, 25,000 Palestinian boys were taught “kidnapping, ambushing, and using assault weapons” at a training camp run by former Palestinian Authority president Yasser Arafat’s staff.

In September 2012, Hamas, the Islamist, antisemitic, extremist terrorist organization that runs the Gaza Strip, instituted a new military training program for school boys in Gaza, also named Al-Futuwwa. The program implemented the following: (1) a two-week military training camp, (2) weekly “military” classes, and (3) “practical activities.” The curriculum targeted some 37,000 boys, who were taught to use Kalashnikov assault rifles, hand grenades, and other explosive devises.

SUICIDE BOMBINGS
During the Second Intifada (2000-2005), Palestinian groups recruited children as militants in a number of ways; most notably and devastatingly, at least nine suicide bombings were carried out by Palestinian children.

In 2004, the Israeli military intercepted an 11-year-old Palestinian boy carrying explosive devices on his person through a checkpoint in Nablus.

In 2000, the then Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Ekrima Sa'id Sabri made a statement in support of suicide attacks carried out by children: “The younger the martyr, the more I respect him.”

In 2003, the United Nations Secretary General stated: “We have witnessed both ends of these acts: children have been used as suicide bombers and children have been killed by suicide bombings. I call on the Palestinian authorities to do everything within their powers to stop all participation by children in this conflict.”

On December 25, 2023, the Israeli Defense Forces found child-sized suicide bomber vests in a building used to shelter civilians in the Gaza Strip.

During the Second Intifada (2000-2005), a photo of a "baby suicide bomber" sparked international outrage. The boy's uncle verified the authenticity of the photo, though the IDF believed there were no actual explosives in the belt.

INDOCTRINATION
Hamas runs both Shehab News and the Al-Aqsa Media Network. Al-Aqsa Media is known for its virulently antisemitic content; for example, the children’s program Tomorrow’s Pioneers, which ran from 2007 to 2009, quite literally encouraged Palestinian children to murder Jews. Children’s characters made statements such as: “We will annihilate the Jews,” and “[I] will finish off the Jews and eat them.”

Palestinian schoolbooks frequently espouse overt antisemitism, as well as demonization Jews, Israelis, and Israel. Hamas has repeatedly interfered with the curriculums of United Nations Relief and Works Agency schools, including the decision to suspend any education on the Holocaust in 2009. UNRWA teachers have also been caught posting explicitly antisemitic content online, such as content praising Hitler.

From 2002 to at least 2006, the Hamas-run biweekly online magazine for children, Al-Fatah (“The Conqueror”), praised suicide bombers and attacks on the “Jewish enemy.”

At least 20 UNRWA schoolteachers and staff praised the October 7 Hamas massacre of Israeli civilians, the deadliest antisemitic massacre since the Holocaust.

Here is a quote from Hamas MP Fathi Hamad:
"[The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: 'We desire death like you desire life.'"

IMPLICATIONS
First, a caveat: Israel too has been accused of “glorifying” military culture, with children being taught to look forward to their military draft. That said, the two situations are not remotely similar. First, Israel does not recruit minors for military operations. Israel does not fire from civilian-populated areas, and certainly not from areas populated by children. Independent studies have found that, while both Israeli and Palestinian school textbooks generally don’t offer a very sympathetic view of the other side, Palestinian textbooks overwhelmingly glorify martyrdom, whereas Israeli textbooks emphasize peace.

The militarization and radicalization of Palestinian children is a form of child abuse, and it has grave implications.

A clinical psychologist at Tel Aviv University, Shafiq Masalha, found that during the Second Intifada (2000-2005), 15 percent of Palestinian children dreamt of becoming suicide bombers. According to the director of the Gaza Community Mental Health Program, Eyad Sarraj, 36 percent of Palestinian children over the age of 12 aspire to die “a martyr’s death.”

A 2012 study on Israeli, Palestinian, and Arab Israeli children found that exposure to the conflict and violence increased aggressive behavior. It stated: "Palestinian children were at the greatest risk for exposure to violence across settings as well as at the highest level of aggressive behavior in comparison to the two other groups. Males were uniformly at greater risk than were females for all forms of exposure to violence as well as more aggressive."

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SeaStatePhenomenal · 02/01/2024 23:45

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Toothyfruity · 02/01/2024 23:45

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You're in favour of crimes against humanity? Lovely.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 02/01/2024 23:45

That's your view, Toothy, although you haven't offered any evidence for it and I strongly suspect that you've picked it up from the feeds on whatever social media you have. It is a view held by some and disputed by others (see, that's free speech and dissent in action again). It is not a given just because you say so.

Toothyfruity · 02/01/2024 23:52

YetAnotherSpartacus · 02/01/2024 23:45

That's your view, Toothy, although you haven't offered any evidence for it and I strongly suspect that you've picked it up from the feeds on whatever social media you have. It is a view held by some and disputed by others (see, that's free speech and dissent in action again). It is not a given just because you say so.

I read through the relevant humanitarian law actually. To refresh my memory.

I posted about it several times in the early weeks, laying out what laws etc were broken in terms of both ethnic cleansing and genocide but I realise now that some people don't want to change their minds or accept facts that go against their entrenched views so I'm not bothering to go into it again because it's like banging my head against a wall. I was naive in the early weeks and thought that some people genuinely didn't realise that this was ethnic cleansing. Now I realise they just don't care whether it is or it isn't.

SeaStatePhenomenal · 02/01/2024 23:53

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Toothyfruity · 02/01/2024 23:53

Wow that's nearly the full bingo card!

SeaStatePhenomenal · 02/01/2024 23:56

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stomachameleon · 02/01/2024 23:57

elected representatives anywhere are openly advocating for crimes against humanity.

@Toothyfruity I think your telling fibs. That's the point I was trying to make. It's not toothy sat at home Perusing Armenian and Bermuda law. It's that it's Israel and your a Little bit down a rabbit hole.

You have been told numerous times on here even by a real life Israeli that lives there that they are treated as right wingers on a right wing government. That lots in the country take them to task for what they say. But that's not good enough.

SeaStatePhenomenal · 02/01/2024 23:58

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EasterIssland · 02/01/2024 23:58

@SeaStatePhenomenal I’ve reported several of your comments for not being respectful to others and for hate speech for citizens of other countries. I can see you haven’t been in the Middle East board for long. Everything I’m going to say is please be respectful to others and keep your hate to yourself

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/01/2024 00:00

I was naive in the early weeks and thought that some people genuinely didn't realise that this was ethnic cleansing. Now I realise they just don't care whether it is or it isn't.

No. There is a plethora of different views on this and other threads, some repeating rhetoric and some with nuanced and carefully thought out views.

Many of us have done our own research and whereas we have grave concerns about what is happening in Gaza we disagree that it is ethnic cleansing and we are certainly not going to be swayed by one anonymous voice on MN.

Humdingerydoo · 03/01/2024 00:00

Toothyfruity · 02/01/2024 23:39

That might be a reasonable argument except for the fact that they clearly are trying to ethnically cleanse Gaza.

Yes, those two politicians possibly want to ethically cleanse Gaza. I don't know for sure as I haven't been reading much about them, hence my use of the word possibly.

Hamas acted on their wishes to ethnically cleanse Israel. Do you listen to them and their words as well and take them as seriously as you take the words of these two Israeli politicians? Or do you dismiss what Hamas say because you think it's not actually achievable? Why do you fear the words of two Israeli politicians more than you fear the words of a terrorist group?

Toothyfruity · 03/01/2024 00:02

stomachameleon · 02/01/2024 23:57

elected representatives anywhere are openly advocating for crimes against humanity.

@Toothyfruity I think your telling fibs. That's the point I was trying to make. It's not toothy sat at home Perusing Armenian and Bermuda law. It's that it's Israel and your a Little bit down a rabbit hole.

You have been told numerous times on here even by a real life Israeli that lives there that they are treated as right wingers on a right wing government. That lots in the country take them to task for what they say. But that's not good enough.

@stomachamaleon

I just think language like that coming from anyone in power is frightening and should be challenged.

Surely all right thinking people would agree with that principle?

Also, I'm not looking at Israeli law. It's international law. It's supposed to apply to everyone but some countries seems to be exempt when they have powerful backers.

stomachameleon · 03/01/2024 00:03

@Toothyfruity I think extremists on both sides use frightening rhetoric.

SeaStatePhenomenal · 03/01/2024 00:05

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Toothyfruity · 03/01/2024 00:05

Humdingerydoo · 03/01/2024 00:00

Yes, those two politicians possibly want to ethically cleanse Gaza. I don't know for sure as I haven't been reading much about them, hence my use of the word possibly.

Hamas acted on their wishes to ethnically cleanse Israel. Do you listen to them and their words as well and take them as seriously as you take the words of these two Israeli politicians? Or do you dismiss what Hamas say because you think it's not actually achievable? Why do you fear the words of two Israeli politicians more than you fear the words of a terrorist group?

To repeat myself, elected representatives of a nation state advocating for ethnic cleansing whilst the armed forces of that state are in my view and in the view of many others are carrying out ethnic cleansing is very troubling. To put it mildly.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/01/2024 00:06

I just think language like that coming from anyone in power is frightening and should be challenged.

Surely all right thinking people would agree with that principle?

It is being challenged. What part of this do you not understand?

Toothyfruity · 03/01/2024 00:07

stomachameleon · 03/01/2024 00:03

@Toothyfruity I think extremists on both sides use frightening rhetoric.

Good for you I never said they didn't. I was commenting on a previous post about the Israeli politicians.

Obviously it's hit a nerve.

Humdingerydoo · 03/01/2024 00:09

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/01/2024 00:06

I just think language like that coming from anyone in power is frightening and should be challenged.

Surely all right thinking people would agree with that principle?

It is being challenged. What part of this do you not understand?

Yes, this seems to be the bit a lot of posters don't understand. It's been challenged since way before October 7th. People who think otherwise clearly only started watching tiktoks reading or watching the news three months ago.

SeaStatePhenomenal · 03/01/2024 00:10

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Toothyfruity · 03/01/2024 00:11

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/01/2024 00:06

I just think language like that coming from anyone in power is frightening and should be challenged.

Surely all right thinking people would agree with that principle?

It is being challenged. What part of this do you not understand?

Give me strength.

A previous poster said it was not a big deal and basically to pay no heed to it. I was making the point that language of this type from people in power is always troubling.

If people are challenging it that's great. I was talking about it being minimised on this thread.

stormy4319trevor · 03/01/2024 00:11

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Is there a spelling issue or are you being homophobic?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 03/01/2024 00:12

Hamas acted on their wishes to ethnically cleanse Israel. Do you listen to them and their words as well and take them as seriously as you take the words of these two Israeli politicians? Or do you dismiss what Hamas say because you think it's not actually achievable? Why do you fear the words of two Israeli politicians more than you fear the words of a terrorist group?

Yes, Hamas wish the destruction of Israel.

In their own words.

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

Doctrine of Hamas

https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/doctrine-hamas

SeaStatePhenomenal · 03/01/2024 00:12

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