‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?

[Ohlalalalala]

"In an extended interview with UnHerd this week, Israeli Ambassador to the UK Tzipi Hotovely was confronted with a historic statement in which she claimed that “between the sea and the Jordan River, there needs to be one state, only the state of Israel.” Despite referencing the rhyme back in 2015, when making the case for a one-state solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, Hotovely maintained that “from the river to the sea” is a genocidal chant when used by pro-Palestine protesters. "

https://unherd.com/thepost/israeli-ambassador-debates-from-the-river-to-the-sea/#:~:text=In%20an%20extended%20interview%20with,2015%2C%20when%20making%20the%20case

Her explanation about why it's OK for her to say it but not for others is simply 😳

This is a good explanatory article about the true meaning:

‘From the river to the sea’: What does the Palestinian slogan really mean?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/2/from-the-river-to-the-sea-what-does-the-palestinian-slogan-really-mean

“It’s important to remember this chant is in English and it doesn’t rhyme in Arabic, it is used in demonstrations in Western countries,” he said. “The controversy has been fabricated to prevent solidarity in the West with the Palestinians.”

[Ohlalalalala]

Israel's new deputy foreign minister: 'This land is ours. All of it is ours'
(2015)

Israel’s new deputy foreign minister on Thursday delivered a defiant message to the international community, saying that Israel owes no apologies for its policies in the Holy Land and citing religious texts to back her belief that it belongs to the Jewish people.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/22/israels-new-deputy-foreign-minister-this-land-is-ours-all-of-it-is-ours

[PurpleChrayne]

Aren't you exhausted by this mud-slinging at Israel?

Because I am.

Thread after thread after thread.

Can you move on to one of the other conflicts raging at the moment? Sudan? Pakistan?

Please.

[Ohlalalalala]

@PurpleChrayne

Aren't you exhausted by this mud-slinging at Israel?

Because I am.

Thread after thread after thread.

Can you move on to one of the other conflicts raging at the moment? Sudan? Pakistan?

Please.

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[Ohlalalalala]

Why did you come to this thread then?

[TakeMe2Insanity]

Better than some of the other threads on here.

[Toothyfruity]

When certain high profile Zionists are claiming that the slogan has genocidal intent, when it does not, I think a thread discussing it is reasonable.

A previous poster telling the OP to post about Sudan instead because they don't like the information presented is quite funny though.

[MableT]

@TakeMe2Insanity

Better than some of the other threads on here.

Nah nah nah nah nah
Is what's missing from the end of your post. Heavens, the immaturity.

The chant's meaning is unambiguous yet that doesn't stop more harassment goes it OP?

[Pennina]

@PurpleChrayne

Aren't you exhausted by this mud-slinging at Israel?

Because I am.

Thread after thread after thread.

Can you move on to one of the other conflicts raging at the moment? Sudan? Pakistan?

Please.

I ask myself that too, where are all the protests about human rights abuses in Middle Eastern countries, China and the war in Ukraine. Funny they do not attract huge protest marches. .... oh but wait ...

[Toothyfruity]

But wait...the UK doesn't sponsor genocide in those places.

[MableT]

@Toothyfruity

But wait...the UK doesn't sponsor genocide in those places.

Genocide isn't taking place in Gaza. Palestinians are being killed despite their religion/race, not because of it.

[1dayatatime]

@Ohlalalalala

"GetTheWinterQuiltOut
its boring to read threads where you just copied and pasted out of articles. Got any thoughts of your own there?

Why did you come to this thread then?"

+++

Maybe to point out that rather than create a genuinely informative thread of explaining "from the river to the sea" all you really did was to copy and paste articles without any thoughts of your own in order to create traffic and whip up division.

Bit pathetic and pointless really isn't it?

[Toothyfruity]

@MableT

Genocide isn't taking place in Gaza. Palestinians are being killed despite their religion/race, not because of it.

They're being killed because they're Palestinians and Israel is taking over their land.

[MableT]

@Toothyfruity

They're being killed because they're Palestinians and Israel is taking over their land.

Nope. Incorrect.

[HaveALaff]

@MableT

Nope. Incorrect.

History proves otherwise. Genocidal removal of Palestinians has been occurring for decades.

[MableT]

@HaveALaff

History proves otherwise. Genocidal removal of Palestinians has been occurring for decades.

This particular instance is not genocide.

[HaveALaff]

@MableT

This particular instance is not genocide.

Hmm maybe. All the other instances were genocide but this particular one isn't genocide. Makes sense.

[Toothyfruity]

It's genocide, although Israel is also committing other crimes against humanity too.

[MableT]

@HaveALaff

Hmm maybe. All the other instances were genocide but this particular one isn't genocide. Makes sense.

Hamas declared war. Israel responded. Its not genocide no matter how much you want to sensationalise to suit your purpose. That purpose is very clear. This thread is yet another aim at the Jewish community. What is the relevance as a stand alone topic of the chant, if not to stir 🤔

[Toothyfruity]

@MableT

Hamas declared war. Israel responded. Its not genocide no matter how much you want to sensationalise to suit your purpose. That purpose is very clear. This thread is yet another aim at the Jewish community. What is the relevance as a stand alone topic of the chant, if not to stir 🤔

Israel is satisfying 3 of the conditions I posted above. It only has to carry out 1 for it to be considered genocide.

They're very good at genocide. They've had lots of practice.

[MableT]

@Toothyfruity

It's genocide, although Israel is also committing other crimes against humanity too.

You're conveniently forgetting the group being a race or religion. I will repeat: Palestinians are not being targeted for being part of a group. They are being killed, despite being part of a group.

[HaveALaff]

@MableT

Hamas declared war. Israel responded. Its not genocide no matter how much you want to sensationalise to suit your purpose. That purpose is very clear. This thread is yet another aim at the Jewish community. What is the relevance as a stand alone topic of the chant, if not to stir 🤔

Please stop. Calling out a genocide has nothing to do with Jewish people. In fact, you are being very anti-Semitic for making out that what I said has something to do with Jewish people. Please leave them out of it.

[MableT]

@Toothyfruity

Israel is satisfying 3 of the conditions I posted above. It only has to carry out 1 for it to be considered genocide.

They're very good at genocide. They've had lots of practice.

I will leave you to it. I'm off to speak to the adults.

[Toothyfruity]

@MableT

I will leave you to it. I'm off to speak to the adults.

You're the one who can't seem to read or understand the definition of genocide. National and ethnic groups are included but you can't seem to comprehend that.

[MableT]

@HaveALaff

Please stop. Calling out a genocide has nothing to do with Jewish people. In fact, you are being very anti-Semitic for making out that what I said has something to do with Jewish people. Please leave them out of it.

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