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Any information about the demonstrations being held today, Saturday 28 October?

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Redcase · 28/10/2023 07:09

Just that really. I want to join those asking for an end/ ceasefire. BBC reporting that there are demonstrations in London and Manchester but I can’t find any information online TIA

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FordAnglia · 31/10/2023 08:19

there's a big demo in london scheduled for November 11, a week saturday.

I may go.

What sort of world are we living in when government and opposition bods are sacked for calling for a ceasefire?

Which I understand is actually the position of the UN.

So it's Starmer against the UN.

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 08:27

FordAnglia · 31/10/2023 08:19

there's a big demo in london scheduled for November 11, a week saturday.

I may go.

What sort of world are we living in when government and opposition bods are sacked for calling for a ceasefire?

Which I understand is actually the position of the UN.

So it's Starmer against the UN.

On armistice day, was that deliberate?

NmeChngeFail · 31/10/2023 08:30

Its quite fitting actually, I wonder if after this Palestine with have a remembrance day for all of the innocent lives lost and for all of the future ones, as this clearly isn't over.

I would also like to see the 1 million Iraqi civilians get their remembrance day considering so many were killed by UK citizens.

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 08:40

I think it may be seen as inappropriate.

FordAnglia · 31/10/2023 08:40

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 08:27

On armistice day, was that deliberate?

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I imagine it's just because it's a Saturday.
though yes is kind of fitting.

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 10:49

Only if it's peaceful.

FordAnglia · 31/10/2023 11:43

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 10:49

Only if it's peaceful.

why wouldn't it be?
all the others have been.
In fact more peaceful than a fair bit of Mnet, particularly AIBU.

quantumbutterfly · 31/10/2023 12:04

Indeed.Why wouldn't it be?

TakeMe2Insanity · 31/10/2023 13:22

I believe having a thread calling the marches anti-semitic is offensive. The marches are people calling for peace, for a ceasefire, asking for mercy for the children, to stop the killing of innocent Palestinians by Settlers etc. Shouting anyone down by saying Hamas doesn’t deny the reality of life injustice in Palestine.

BethDuttonsTwin · 31/10/2023 14:45

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BethDuttonsTwin · 31/10/2023 14:49

Also the marches being performed on Remembrance Weekend are purposely done, in order to take the focus off that and I suspect we will see much purposeful and deep disrespect of those traditions in order to get the so called Right Wingers all riled up and then the marchers can boo hoo and point to it as evidence of their oppression and marginalisation.

Genuinely despairing that so many can't see what's really happening here. So many so easily duped by these movements.

FloweryName · 31/10/2023 16:33

They are not being purposefully done because it is remembrance weekend and that is a ridiculous statement to make. Pro Palestinian marches will happen every weekend until the bombs stop being dropped, as they have since it started.

Remembrance is irrelevant. It seems distasteful and hypocritical to me to have a parade that’s about remembering the fallen at the same time as our government is actively supporting another war. What are people supposed to be remembering? That killing is bad? What’s the point of remembering when it hasn’t lead to any learning?

upinaballoon · 31/10/2023 16:57

I don't think remembrance is irrelevant.

People can remember that Jimmy was killed, if they want to.

They can remember that the man in the concentration camp, who survived, had paraffin injected into him. They can remember that the doctor who was there when the camps were relieved, said that the prisoners were frightened of having injections, because they, the prisoners, Jewish and other people, had been injected with paraffin so that they'd burn more easily. c.f. Forgotten Voices of the Holocaust and Women of our Century - something like that.

They can remember to watch some of the programmes about the history of it all, dull though the programmes may be considered. Not as exciting as 'Naked Attraction'.

They can remember all the wars that have happened since and reflect that some struggles have resulted in sorts of peace and it might have all been even worse if folk hadn't remembered, a bit at least.

It is easy to feel that no-one ever learns anything. I feel like that myself, quite a lot. I sympathise with anyone's feelings of despair over it. Does every generation have to go through it all over, in order to learn?

They can remember to teach their children to be peaceful.

untitledmum · 28/12/2023 22:35

NmeChngeFail · 29/10/2023 11:48

From the rivers to the sea isn't anti semitic, stop trying it.

...So where do you want the Jews of Israel to go?
Oh yes it is anti-Semitic.

40ouncesofgin · 31/12/2023 08:09

@untitledmum where are the Palestinians headed... to their graves mostly. Do you care about that?

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