Ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

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Just to start us off.

May this be a happy and lucky thread for all of us.

sex twice a day....... Ha ha Ha ......(hippy rolls about on floor laughing). Then thinks back and realises that maybe she did that too - a long time ago .

Good luck for tomorrow sassy - if anyone gives you a funny look just tell 'em to sod off!

alba keep chanting that please, there's a love.

I am very impressed that I only have to ask and the lurkers come popping back. feeling rather pleased with myself (smug face icon).

Hi Hippy, can I be in your gang please!!

Hope no-one minds if I rejoin. I popped in a good few months ago but we stopped TTC as DD2's eczema was so bad and we were getting so little sleep that we didn't think we could cope with a baby. It's a bit more under control now and we both would love another child so back on the TTC band wagon (and I'm already bored of SWI!).

Hello everyone. It is great to see some action here! So glad to hear you are having your 20 week scan Alba. Will you find out the sex of the baby? How exciting.

I bet you can't wait for your scan Jolly? I hope you are feeling good.

My friend just got "low risk" on her 12 week bloods and scan. She is 40 and a half, so it is great news for us oldies.

Sassy, I don't know if I already said, but I was 41 when I got my bfp. Charlie was born 3 months before by 42nd birthday.

Back when I was 40 I was worried I was too old, now I wish I were that young again! I'm holding onto hope that one day we'll hit the healthy egg that will be our last baby.I'm not ready to give up yet.

Opks are negative so far, will try again today. I hope I'll O this week, because it looks like my DH is going away this weekend, and it would be a bummer if I O while he's away.I suppose if we get SWI done before he goes away it will cover the window of opportunity.

I used to be so regular before I had Charlie - my cycle was easy to read.I hope it regulates soon.It is making planning a bit hard! That's why I really need the opks - at least I get some idea of when to expect O.

Awful thought...I hope this isn't an anovulatory cycle. Now that really would suck!

As for IVF, if I had a DH who was remotely keen I'd go for it as I think it does give better odds than going au naturalle.However, I'm not sure they'd let me use my own eggs at my age. But it isn't really an option because my DH wouldn't be on board. So if it happens, I'll be ecstatic, if it doesn't, then so be it...having said that, if I do get a bfp and mc I would certainly keep trying.

Hippy, did you get your drugs? I hope that UTI has left the building.

Oh, and hello to Jemima, welcome back.I remember you.

Welcome back Jemima..

Gumblossom I don't think they could stop you using our own eggs - they could just advise against it, I suppose. But it is all a very expensive business. I met a bereaved mum elsewhere on MN - I hope she doesn't mind me paraphrasing her story here! Her only child died suddenly at 14 when she was 42 - she went on to try IVF 3 times, and at the age of 45, using a donor egg, gave birth to healthy triplets! I find that an amazing and inpsirational story of dertermination over adversity.

I'm going to be interested to ask tonight what the relative benefits of going an IVF route over continuning to try naturally.

Just adding to the hopefully positive stories - I know someone who has a 2 year old and a 8 week old, both from donor eggs... I don't know exactly how old she is as am rubbish at gauging and would never ask, but a mutual acquaintance (who would know for sure) mentioned recently to me "How amazing is Belinda, doing all that in her fifties..."...

I haven't pursued Assisted (yet), and don't think I would do with donor eggs (though never say never!), but I did think about enquiring along the lines of the pre-genetic screening (as in it seems I still have eggs, they're just knackered, and maybe they could pre-select best/most likely to succeed IYSWIM).

Morning all - back from a soggy trip to nursery with DS. LOTS to do, little motivation to start it. I feel a little session online to kick the day off... .

Welcome back Jemima (LOVE that name)... you do realise next new thread will need to be entitled "Hippy's thread"... Love to thread leader and you all x

Hippy might not be on the new thread, y'know

Hopefully!

Nah, even after the twins arrive she'll not be able to stay away, she'll be regaling us with her new SWOI outfits....

Funny you should say that sassy - my DH said he had a vision of us with twins and one of my RL (real life) friends keeps saying she thinks I'll have twins. I would be if I found out I was.

When I had the MMC and there was only one embryo in there my DH said, "that obviously wasn't the pregnancy I saw you having!"

Please do not call it Hippy's thread - it makes me sound like a right old big head. I do have an opinion on the name though -surprise surprise. I think it should be something simple like - TTC in your 40's. The current title is too confusing for my simple old brain!!!

Got the Anti Bs today . The doc said there was bacteria in the wee but not enough to confirm an infection!!! Problem is I was so busy asking if the tablets were safe when TTC that I forgt to remind her I was allergic to Penicillin. The chemist said they don't contain penicillin BUT often people who are allergic to penicillin will ALSO be allergic to these - so fun fun fun, expecting a rash any time now .

Oh, don't drop the "feisty" I like the idea of being feisty. How about Frisky and Feisty Frolics: ttc in your 40s...

Ok, ok... I'll just go and sit quietly in this corner and try and calm down....

Glad you got the anit-bs hippy - no implications for ttc - only if you're in labour or breastfeeding... afaik.

Well done Hippy on getting everyone back here, all these people wondering off getting pg or stopping ttc. We need you to keep us all in order here!! Anyway, I am glad you kept the doc in order too and got your anti-b's
My name change was necessary for identity hiding purposes, doesn't that sound intriguing! But I felt like I needed a change to see if I could make myself keep hold of a baby! Somehow the old name seemed to just remind me of all the ones I have lost.

Sassy - I like feisty too!!!! How did the fertility appt go today?

Jemima - glad your dd's eczema is better.

Alba - so good to hear that your third is the lucky one for you.

linda - wow was it really april since you were last here, but i am glad that hippy enticed you back!

I still have no af, and no blood test results, hope to get at least one of them soon!

galwaygirl hope the name change brings you luck. You'll always be rainbow to me (but I'll keep it to myself ).

We can be feisty if you like sassy. Me thinks Susan is a bit of a handful - feisty and sassy . how did you get on today? - anyone look like they were thinking, "what's the granny doing here?"

Today i feel very odd, a bit like AF is on the way. i have worked out that I think I ovulated about day 8 (very early - but luckily we did SWI on day 7).

But if AF turns up soon I could be looking at the shortest cycle ever. Still last time I got pregnant it followed a month when I had a 21 day cycle and thought it was a bad sign. So will try not to stress.

Good to see all the preggers ladies popping back to say hello. Wer'e all very happy for you - now waddle off again (kidding, kidding!)

There was only one other couple there - they smiled gingerly...

Basically he said the best thing to do was to keep trying au naturelle. At our age, the success rate for IVF is low (about 15 to 20% per cycle) and he recommends we try for at least a year (so another 8 months) before we think about the IVF route - as shagging like bunnies really represents our best chance of getting pg.

He did an ultrasound of my ovaries - I have snap shots! He said I had follicles about what he would expect for my age - but they combine it with a blood test to see the age of my ovaries - if I'm almost out of eggs, that would indicate trying IVF sooner - we have to go back in 3 weeks for the result.

If you really, really want a baby, the best chance is donor eggs - the success rate jumps to 50 to 60% - but I sort of feel that wouldn't be the same. I suppose our daughter was our biological child, and that is what we both strongly want.

All the other stuff was things you'd expect - like shag, shag often. He also told DH off for keeping his mobile in this trouser pocket in case he is frying his semen!

Feel a bit like I've been through the mill, as for some reason, I always end up telling the nurse taking my blood about my daughter, and the consultant knew anyway, because the Dr had written it on his referral. DH feels more optimistic after the appointment - I just want to be unproblematically pg and not have a mc. I wish I could order them both from the White Company catologue

Fingers crossed for you Hippy

Of course you end up telling everyone about your darling daughter sassy - she is such an important part of your lives. God, if I were the nurse I'd wanna hug you 'til I squashed you. Infact i do now .

If you do manage to order an unproblematic pregnancy from that fancy catalogue please let me know the price etc and I'll order one too, honey

Thanks hippy I hope that an un-mn type hug

If I manage to find the unproblematic pregnancy order no., I will go one better and get you one on my credit card - to hell with the expense

Have remembered some other stuff... I asked if stress might be a factor. He said, no. The only way stress might factor, is if it was sufficiently bad that my cycle was disrupted and I stopped ovulating - but as I am ovulating regularly and cycles regular - it was just a matter of the sperm meeting egg. So that is a relief - as everyone keeps saying: if only you could relax - and I want to kill them.

Hands up now, if someone has told you that if only you didn't want a baby so badly/could relax etc then you would get pg... well now you can tell them to fuck the fuck off... or a politer version if you really want....

He also told DH to sleep naked - apparently it might improve the quality of his sperm... Never heard that one before....

Hi everyone, thank you for the warm welcome back.

Hippy I seem to remember the doctor saying to me once that the more dilute my wee was the less likely they were to pick up an infection. So if you were already drinking loads of fluid then they might get a skewed result.

Sassy I hadn't heard the one about DP keeping a mobile in his pocket...guess it makes sense though. Maybe I'll take the battery out while he's not looking!

I had DD2 at 40 (I'm very nearly 43 now) and a good friend had her first child at 44 so I do agree with Sassy that it's just a matter of the right sperm meeting the right egg...

Do I hear the sound of a Hippychick singing??

Big, big apologies for being AWOL for so long (haven't dared to catch up on the thread properly as I'd be reading all night) but really hope everyone is doing OK.

And welcome to everyone new. Very confused by name changing but hopefully I'll suss things out eventually!

I'm 34 weeks this Thursday and it's just started to feel very real. In a mild panic about writing birth plans and buying prams (a whole world in its own right!) etc. DH and I are dreadful last minute merchants in life generally so will be interesting! But I keep chanting "the shops will still be open after you have this baby" to myself (great advice I remember reading somewhere on Mumsnet).

Anyway look foward to catching up on everyone's news and hope you're better soon Hippy (hasn't this been going on for ages - I remember vaguely from when I lurked a while ago?)

TFLS - help, you can't possibly be 34 weeks already, it seems like yesterday that you were getting over your m/c and starting again..... phew, I must be getting old to lose time like that. Anyway great to hear things are going well.

Sassy - I was told too that the rate of success with IVF is much worse than natural at our age. So shag-a-thon it is for you then.

Well my af is about to make an appearance (I think . I had spotting earlier, but now it has disappeared , never normally does that, so I hope it starts properly soon.

well I am still at work and need to get off the computer now and go get some fresh air before I expire. catch you tomorrow hopefully.

TFLS bless you for responding to my call. I am that you are 34 weeks - how wonderful. I feel like I will never be that far along again.

All the vesry best for the next 6 weeks. Yes, you are correct the shops do remain open after a baby is born - LOL. xxx

Got to be quick while boss out of room.....

FECK FECK FECK.... very faint line on test, another chemical pregnancy my way ,,,,, arrgggg.

Just got my test results back - all clear except raised clot strength, so will start 150mg/day asprin today, just in case.

Ooh GG it's still a positive test and could stick?

Am on my iPhone so will look more when at work bit have a question. Is it worth swi on day of temp shift? Also another question. Despite my best efforts didn't manage much swi this week, how much do people do at the important time ?te? Assuming I oved on weds is there much chance if I swi on tues and sun? Tried last night to no avail and now kicking myself

sorry all about me too difficult to write on phone

Lovely to see TFLS. GG, totally understand how you're feeling, but as BB says, it COULD be ok.

Days away from my scan on Monday - feeling quite nervous. TBH for various reasons not feeling very positive (bit of light brown discharge, reduced symptoms etc), but maybe also just preparing myself for the worst.

Realised that Sunday will be a day to "get through"... first MMC it was estimated that baby died at 11+6, 2nd MMC had already been diagnosed and whilst waiting for ERPC I MC naturally on 11+6.... might just stay in bed all day that day :) :(

Wave to all. Hope you're all ok.

sorry BB, know nowt about temping :(

GG I have no idea what you're talking about - being a newbie here - but I'm going to go along with BB, and cross my fingers for you xx

BB I am going to try and answer, even though I'm not sure I know what you mean

If you mean, you ov-ed on yesterday, SWI on Tuesday would have been brilliant. Sunday won't have hurt, but Tuesday would have been pretty much spot on, as sperm survive for a while, and would have been around to meet the egg the following day.

My understanding is that an egg will last 24 to 48 hours - so I would be getting out the lacy nightie tonight too.

I hope I have answered correctly, but at least I am only suggesting you may get pg and should shag your husband again - so hardly Jeremy Kyle type material....

Jollster God loves a trier - spend the day in bed reading magaazines and eating chocolate. Can't hurt, might help.