30s TTC - We Started TTC When the LAST Coalition Government Was In Power

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BESH is BACK for Spring. Come in, admire the cocktail bar stylings I have created for you. It's all lowlights and smooth sounds, and there's a rehearsal room in back for the GLEE practice.

The barman are beautiful, the Pit has been well stocked with beanbags and gin. So roll up all you 30-something BESHies who stopped counting cycles sometime in the last century, and grab a martini.

humpy great news about the swift treatment.

I'm on the AC merry-go-round, but can totally understand the fear of going to the docs. I was more than happy to stick my head in the sand. I went with a kind of unrelated thing - light period = obvious menopause. Twas my body's way of tricking me to go to docs & I came out with paperwork for bloods & a referral letter to FC!!! I was gobsmacked. But also glad Ive done it.

meds sorry about the beeping bastard.

• re time to get up I've done a poo. Ambassador, you're really spoiling us with tales of parenthood

scorps & drom hope you're not hanging on the phone for much longer & you get the answers you need.

I'm feeling a bit pre-droidy in the tummy. But I have no spots & norks aren't sore. Oh, I give up!

Pimms all round, x

Oh, & I've never had KFC. Never saw the point of having chicken (of a fashion) as a takeaway. If I'm having a takeaway its Clarkes Pie, chips & curry sauce. Yum!!

Oh you're a classy bird and no mistake, eh Lols?!

I am descaling my kettle because I live in the hardest water area known to humankind and if I don't, it's like drinking tea with sand in it So not a domestic goddess thing. I need to do it every few weeks really but I don't... but have noticed friends keep leaving half their cups and I know why

Perfecto I am treading carefully here because I don't want to upset you faw shaw, but I don't think I agree with what you said re going to docs etc. Isn't the point of this thread that we get to be real about where we're at, whatever stage that is? You feeling wobbly about starting treatment could have the same sort of effect on someone who's just gone through 3 rounds of treatment and found it not worked.

I think we all have to be allowed to say how we feel, at each stage, otherwise it's a bit pointless.

I have to say, even though I've not been able to have any fast food for well over a decade, I do occasionally crave a KFC Mmmm, zinger burger

I really want chiiiiiiiips! Would it be wrong to insist that TYF goes get us chips for tea instead of cooking? We never do that sort of thing

My stitches are soluble and it's normal for a Lap to bring on a droid early. Nurse said it van mess periods about 'for a while'. For someone who already starts spotting far too early every cycle this is not Good News Guess that is the thing to focus on now as the reason for Babyfail. Looking forward to needling on Tues!

Can mess. Arsebuckets

Cass, Drom wasn't trying to say people shouldn't discuss their fears of Docs or whatever or trying to stop people speaking their mind - she was kindly trying to reassure and encourage peeps that going to the Docs can be a v positive and helpful thing, seeing as she's now about to get her AC, whereas she could still be SWI ad infinitum with no luck and getting v sad and worried instead of getting the help she and Captain Humphrey are now getting (I'm not going to give up the Humphrey joke ).

Let's not have misunderstandings mar Lucky Lucky Luck Week! We've had a full bill of fertile health (me), a win (Alice), a baybee (Kimdeal), and supersoon IVF dates (Cam) - HUZZAH FOR US ALL!

I don't think I did misunderstand Scorps - lovely Drom was, as you quite rightly say, encouraging people to go to the doctors, but then also said hat other posters presenting going to the doctors as a stressful thing was upsetting to her.

Which caused Pisces then to feel bad about what she'd posted in response to Medley who is also now at the point of making that first step to the GP.

The reality is each new step on this road DOES feel stressful at the time. When you don't get diffed immediately it's stressful. When you make that first decision to go to the docs it's stressful. And every step along from that, where you realise you're entering further down this road than any of us thought we'd need to. And all I'm saying is that even those of us on step one are allowed to feel it as stressful and upsetting and to talk about that.

That's all.

Cass I didn't mean that people shouldn't say what's worrying them, but I do also think that we all need to try and be a bit careful of one another's feelings - in the same way that the preggos among us don't turn up to bitch about their symptoms...

For the record, am not wobbly about starting AC. Am just sad that it had to be this way, and grieving for the stuff that I've lost out on in the process. But hey! at least I'm actually going to be part of the Mass Summer Diffment project and can symptom-spot and menkul with the best of them.

Well, I think she has a right to feel a bit about fear of seeing a Doc when she's facing so much medical intervention to get her baybee. If everyone's allowed to speak openly about what they're going through at any given stage, like you stated, then you have to also allow Perfick to 'be real' about what she's feeling and experiencing. She and Aries sorted that out, so it didn't need any further input from anyone else [hypocrite emoticon]

NOBODY TOUCH MY CAMELINA!

But I still don't understand where in this anyone has not been careful with other people's feelings.

People are SO careful on here, that's what's lovely. We all get it because we're all in it. To differing degrees, sure, but we're all in it. And I don't think it's right that people feel they should apologise for owning their feelings. MY feelings are hurt by that!

I'm sorry I misrepresented you as "wobbly". You did say wobbly in your post of this morning which is what I picked up on, but perhaps you just meant your phone call had made you momentarily wobbly rather than it being how you felt about things overall, I don't know. But I'm sorry if that upset you.

Let's just shut this down; I took something unecessarily personally and expressed my feelings. Aries unecessarily apologised and I apologised to her for being upsetting. Tis all a Great Big Mis.

Cass, I did use the word wobbly and it is a very imprecise one. I didn't mean that I was wobbly about whether or not to start treatment. I'll try and be clearer about this.

I make it Pimms o'clock, anyone else partaking?

I'm genuinely upset by your last post Scorps

I am one of the people who's just had their first GP appt and first blood tests and found it stressful, so I'm sorry you felt my comments weren't welcome but I felt that what drom said affected me too.

To be asked not to call my particular stage of the process stressful because it upsets people (which is what was being asked) goes beyond "being real" if you ask me. And if I can't say it here, then I really am shafted. Because there's no other fucking place I CAN say it.

Sorry, crosspost. Am bawling my fucking eyes out and it's taking ages to type.

Drom shutdown agreed.

I'm going offline for a bit now.

BFF?

Chin-chin, Musak old bean

You can go, but you have to come back. Cos I hearts you.

Aw Cass, don't cry. I wasn't saying you couldn't express yourself over what's happening for you, I just felt you were wading in on stuff that didn't need any more comment. So I, er, waded in myself (Am bored and meddlesome) No-one was trying to tell you or others not to say certain things were stressful, but if one person can say A is stressful, so can another person say that saying A is stressful is stressful for them! Is glory and madness of human (female?) interaction. We're all at different stages of this process and so all have different triggers for what stresses/offends us.

Am so sorry you've found this first step so stressy. It can be a v crappy time and it's all too easy to feel like a failure or similar (you're NOT). But you CAN always speak your mind here and should do and we welcome it. No-one can ensure that things they say won't accidentally annoy/upset/stress someone else 100% of the time and we can't dictate that others don't get annoyed/upset/stressed by things said either.

I think some Friday cheer is needed. May I present the best website in the world

OMG LOLZZZ I LUV CAKEWRECK! Is just beyond! Nice one!

And this recent one is particularly appropriate. I think when the Mass Summer Diffment Project pays off we should have one commissioned Oh My God

That is made from eggs, flour, sugar, butter and 100& organic WRONG.

Oh cass I hope you're OK, x

I think the nature of this TTC mallarkey is going to take its toll on all of us at times, & I just hope that we're all going to be here for the good, bad & downright messy times.

For me the beauty of this place is that we're all at varying degrees of trying to win, all with our own fears & demons, but that they can be expressed & discussed here without fear of judgey pants aplenty. Unfortunately that doesn't always mean that people won't get upset or cross with each other - having been in the Palais forever I believe we're a pretty fiesty bunch .

I can totally understand not feeling great about AC - my worst month was the first I'd taken Clomid as I felt I'd failed. I mean, aren't you meant to get diffed from just holding hands? God if only.

Right, who's for Pimms & cucumber sarnies on the lawn? Crusts cut off & everyfink! (See poo I am classy really )

Sweet Jesus Mary & Joseph, that cake is revolting

(and downright hilarious!)

Cassie I hope you're all right, sausage.

Tender slaps from a defrosted haddock to all others. I'm off to Whitechapel market to buy okra .