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TTC whilst breastfeeding support thread - join me to share your ups and downs!

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smallblackflowers · 11/01/2010 21:23

Hi!
A little about me - I'm pushing 34, have a 10 month old DD that I'm still breastfeeding and really want to conceive no.2 asap!
I am on my second cycle since AF returned and am temp / CM / CP charting using fertility friend and have OPKs!
I ovulated on day 29 of my last cycle, and am on day 21 at the moment.
Have been having fun and games with very fertile signs over the past week, so lots of BD, but no ovulation, poor DH is full of a cold and not feeling very energetic but I keep insisting that he perform until my temps go up

So anyway - hoping that there are others out there in a similar boat who can help to keep me sane and hopefully share some good news in the coming months.

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Birdonthewing · 23/03/2010 14:58

Thanks for all your congrats messages ladies. Lpsmum, the sad truth is that we probably are one of those couples (although a fair bit of concentrated BDing preceded that particular BFP)!

I've been keeping a low profile for several reasons: we're moving house this weekend so I've been busy packing for that; re. the pregnancy, it's still very early days and I previously mc'd at 5.5-6 weeks so I don't feel justified in assuming everything will be ok - yet; and I guess I also feel a bit uncomfortable posting any well meaning advice when I am where I am and I know what you guys are going through...

...That said, I still feel drawn to this thread and I am genuinely interested in what's happening for you all.

Lilysma, I've found myself thinking a lot about your predicament and doing a bit of googling Internet research. There are quite a few positives in the pattern you describe: only BFing 2-3 times per day (not at all at night); AF returning after 18m; your cycle (usually) being regular; and OPKs (and presumably temps?) suggesting that you are OVing. These are all signs that you're already well on your way (if not already back to) full fertility. On the negative side you say that temps are usually dropping about 10DPO (which suggests a luteal phase defect); and that - for the last 3 months - you've started spotting before AF arrives. This leads me to wonder whether something has changed in the last 3 months to bring about a luteal phase defect/low progesterone levels? Before the spotting appeared were your temps staying elevated from 10DPO+?

I've read that stress/anxiety can cause fluctuations in progesterone. Dramatic weight loss and increased exercise can also be to blame. Think it's really positive that you are TCOYF and seeing a specialist. They can presumably run basic tests to check your post-ov progesterone levels? I wonder if going the progesterone route would be a gentler and easier solution to weaning, trying clomid etc. Some of the stuff I've been reading talks of the need to use sufficient levels of progesterone. Suppositories are available in addition to cream. Perhaps an idea to start small and, if necessary, work up to a greater dose? All that aside, I definitely think it helps to feel empowered by indulging in a bit of 'alternative' therapy (acupuncture, nutrition etc.).

sbf and LittleSilver - I'm following your progesterone cream updates with interest. Wondering if I should maybe consider using it up to week 12 of pg. Am anxious about things going downhill about the week 5/6 mark, as that's when I mc'd before, and that's when the spotting started with DD. Some really promising signs going on there for you sbf. My fingers are crossed that your HPTing in Cornwall is a BFP!

iloveholidays - sorry you were disappointed but good in many ways that AF has returned so you can start charting. It definitely made a huge difference to the accuracy of our TTC attempts. I can't recommend it highly enough.

QueenFee - Along the lines of what sbf was saying, my AF also returned at 9 months. Hope things start to move forward soon. Oh, and thanks for the tip. Did you manage to get the name of the LLL book on BFing and pregnancy/tandem feeding? I'm interested!

Dita - Welcome home! Sorry to hear about the less pleasant aspects of your trip but some positive signs there with the microscope. Keeping my fingers crossed for your test in April (or sooner!).

Jetli - thanks for your congrats. Hope the RL issues you're experiencing aren't too tricky.

Gosh this post has got ridiculously long! Sorry! I'll sign off here and get back to packing up...

Birdonthewing · 23/03/2010 15:03

PS. Just saw your latest post Lilysma - after all my rambling! Am glad you've got more certainty now. Must be a relief, and means you can pinpoint your dates for HSG. Am sure you'll get there without having to wean DD before her time. Stay positive!

lilysma · 23/03/2010 17:17

Bird thanks so much for giving my situation so much thought, I am touched (need a suitable emoticion)!

Have just booked in my HSG for 1st april and also talked to a really nice sounding fertility acupuncturist who is part of Zita West's network and has been trained by her. I have my first appointment with her on 1st April too. Am a bit about the 'fool's day' element of these appointments, but there we go . Am feeling very positive about the latter in particular. Also just feel a bit better for getting my period - I think a combination of PMS and generalised anxiety about my cycle is relieved by the aunty's arrival wierdly enough .

Anxiety might well be a factor with me and progesterone although sadly neither weight loss nor much of an increase in exercise are to blame . I have been cycling into work a bit more, but I guess the studies probably measure a bit more of an increase than that!

I am definitely planning to try the progesterone cream but think I will have to wait until I've done the days 3 and 21 blood tests this cycle (i.e. because they will show progestersone levels so don't want to mess with them). Does that thinking make sense? From what I have read you can use it in pregnancy, so why not give it a go, especially if it might help ease that MC anxiety, which sounds horrible.

LittleSilver · 24/03/2010 19:13

Hi guys
sticks head around door
just popping in order to shriek that on TCOYF forums people upload pictures of their CM! still reeling

Hope everyone's OK this evening.

lilysma · 24/03/2010 20:01

heehee, and I thought I was obsessed and constantly giving TMI

DitaVonCheese · 24/03/2010 23:07

Lol LittleSilver that's made me feel much better about my tendency to over-share

Sorry for the lurking by me - on the 2WW so not much to report, except lunacy, obviously. I have a few random symptoms but also am spotty and full of rage, so I think AF may be on her way. Think I'm about CD33 or so, so that would mean that my cycle has got a bit shorter again, which is good, but would also mean I have a very short luteal phase.

DitaVonCheese · 25/03/2010 21:03

Still very angry and had a bit of spotting this evening, so guessing that's this month over for me Think I OVed around 15th-18th April (maybe as late as the 20th), which would mean a luteal phase of only 8-11 days at the most if AF arrives tomorrow. Is it time for me to pop open the progesterone cream?

Oh, and my nipples are agony every time DD latches on!

LittleSilver · 25/03/2010 21:11

Well, at least it means you can have this passes glass of wine to Dita

DitaVonCheese · 25/03/2010 21:16

Cheers

Lpsmum · 26/03/2010 13:15

I'm out too again this month. AF arrived today CD 28 so am happy at least that my cycle has returned to what it was (jeez it's been 2 years now since I got pregnant with ds...times flies).
Hubby has diarised our swi'ing days for April. That'll be ttc cycle # 3 for us which was the magic number with ds. Note to self: stop making everything around me into lucky omens

LittleSilver · 26/03/2010 13:27

So kind of good in a way lpsmum? I know it's depressing when AF turns up, but at least you're not poas in vain! Best wishes for the red diary days!

essenceofSES · 26/03/2010 20:10

Hello!
Hope it's alright if I join you?

I'm currently BF 10.5mo DS and getting sooooo broody. DH and I have agreed that we'll ttc from May and as I've recently turned 37 and would really like 3DC altogether, I need to get a wriggle on with ttc #2!

Two issues:
i) finding the opportunity for a GOF when I'm knackered as now back at work and DS still waking once a night.
ii) periods haven't returned yet!

Lack of periods is frustrating me but DS doesn't seem the least bit interested in cutting down further on BF even though he is doing v well with solids. He currently BF around 6.30am on waking, 7pm at bedtime, usually once in the night around 3am and once during the day (dependant on the hours I'm working).

Does this sound familiar to any of you? Any ideas or suggestions as to what I can do? Tbh, I don't think I can do much as I don't want to stop BF DS all the while he wants it. I'm just really keen to get pg again soon!

Thank you for reading my ramblings!
Ses xx

Lpsmum · 26/03/2010 21:47

Welcome Ses. My ds is almost 16 mo and has 1 sometimes 2 b feeds a day. Up until I returned to work when he was 13 mo he was still feeding every 2-3 hrs day and night! My periods then returned at 14 months and now seems to have settled on a 28 day cycle (although I'm not totally convinced I'm actually ov'ing). So other than cutting down on the remaining feeds which I understand you don't want to force, I think it's a waiting game for AF's return
It is frustrating though isn't it . You'll get lots of good advice from the girls here

essenceofSES · 27/03/2010 18:00

Hello Lpsmum Yes, the waiting game is v frustrating! I was working this morning and then when I got home, DS decided he wanted to feed/doze/cuddle for over an hour! I tried to tell him that he'd never get a brother or sister if he carried on like that but he didn't seem bothered

Can I ask you, when you returned to work, how many feeds did DS have? Did he have any formula when you weren't around or just water? My DS hasn't had any formula and just has water. The one time we did try him with formula (when I was ill) he just pushed the bottle away, even though he's had EBM from a bottle before.

Lpsmum · 27/03/2010 19:31

Well Ses on nursery days he just used to feed first thing, once we got home from nursery and straight before bed (and 2/3 times during the night) and then he made up for it on non-nursery days with up to 5 feeds during the day. He fairly soon got used to just the 3 feeds every day. And no he's never had formula. I did consider expressing milk for him but he was 13 mo so there seemed little point and every reason to push for cows milk. He wasn't interested for a while so stuck to just water. Now he'll drink pints of cows milk given half the chance.
Tis nice to feel wanted though isn't it

JetLi · 27/03/2010 20:40

Evening ladies

2ww here, but not a great deal of shagging has been done I'm afraid. This month may well get written off. 2 friends have announced up-duffed-ness, and I'm really chuffed for them but also a wee bit . Then a 3rd friend has had a miscarriage

Welcome ses As you can see from the above, I have no tips for having a crafty bonk. This month barely qualifies as TTC for us.

Sore nips Dita - I shall not symptom spot....

Right, off for a glass of red & Lewis on the TV

DitaVonCheese · 27/03/2010 23:11

Hello all and welcome SES My DD just had water when I wasn't there. Tbh I am a terrible mum and almost never give her milk simply because she makes such a mess with it and I can't bear the thought of sour milk everywhere Can't help with cutting down I'm afraid, as DD was on much more than that at the same age (AF returned just before she turned one). Love the acronym GOF btw

On a related note, does anyone know whether there's an 18 month growth spurt? Since we got back from holiday (and on holiday), DD has wanted to feed every minute of the day. She usually wakes up and lies there lazily switching sides every 5-10 minutes for an hour or so while I doze, as well as feeding through the night and as often as I will let her during the day. Before we went away, we were down to one or no feeds during the day. The weird thing is that she's taking more solids than she used to as well. Has she developed hollow legs?

JetLi I am being very reserved re symptom spotting this month. I am also keeping quiet about how many BFNs I have had this week - told you I couldn't wait! I do usually get sore nips before AF shows her scraggy old face, but no sign of her yet. Last night I had a hot bath and drank a bottle of cider while I was in it, so invoking sod's law should make me well and truly up the duff.

Btw, following a thread in AIBU, I just wanted to apologise if I horrified anyone with my mention of DD latching on mid-SWI I was trying not to make my post too long before but just wanted to clarify that she we usually do it elsewhere, she was a very long way away from us when we started, and we stopped as soon as we knew she was awake

DitaVonCheese · 29/03/2010 20:42

CD38, so guess I'm having another 45 dayer. At least it suggests I have a nice long luteal phase. BFN yesterday morning and I'm pretty sure it should have shown up by now if it was going to be a BFP.

I've killed the thread, haven't I?

essenceofSES · 29/03/2010 20:46

Hello again and thanks for the welcomes!

Definitely no sign of DS wanting to cut down further over the wkend - the opposite if anything!
I have a ClearBlue Fertility Monitor waiting to be used. I don't think I can use it though until I get my periods back...

Lpsmum - yup! Definitely feel wanted DS turns 11mo in 2 weeks so may start trying him on a small amount of cows milk soon. He already has some with weetabix at nursery and that's been fine. Do you give it via a bottle or a cup?

JetLi - LOL at crafty bonk! Few and far between!

DitaVonChesse - don't know about timings of growth spurts but it sounds like it to me!

essenceofSES · 29/03/2010 20:48

No you haven't! x-posted!!
for BFN
Any symptoms though?!

FannyLogan · 29/03/2010 22:16

Hey ladies - can I join in?

DD is 17 months, bfs at night (co-sleeping) and in the day 3 days a week on demand.

No AF yet.

31 and broody!

I thought I might have ovulated last month by EWCM, but no AF (and def not pregnant !).

So I am hoping this time round I might make it over the oestrogen threshold and finally ovulate! (keep thinking of the graph in TCOYF).

It's nice to know I am not alone.....

DitaVonCheese · 29/03/2010 23:42

SES Phewf! Lots of symptoms - but I can generally spot them anything up to a week before OV, so I don't take them very seriously these days

Fanny welcome Wow at the 17 months sans AF. My cycles have been incredibly long since my AF returned (around 45 days at the moment it would seem) so it could be possible yours is round the corner somewhere.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 31/03/2010 11:09

Hello everyone

Sorry I've not been around much, bird congratulations on your BPF!

I think I OV'd on CD19, now on CD23. We ended up having SWI on CD20 even though we hadn't planned to try for another 2/3 months, so I suppose I'm on a 2WW - argh!

DitaVonCheese · 31/03/2010 19:17

Hi all

to Ali - exciting about your 2WW!

AF arrived this morning. I was feeling fairly positive - "only" a 39 day cycle this month and a reasonable luteal phase of 12 days. Unfortunately some killer cramps have kicked in over the past 90 minutes so I'm now feeling very sorry for myself indeed - time for a cold drink in a hot bath I think. I usually get a bit of cramping but nothing like this bad so I'm hoping that's a good sign

So now I've finished the 2WW for AF to arrive, I get to enjoy the 3WW before I OV again. This isn't boring at all

smallblackflowers · 31/03/2010 20:12

Hi!

I'm back from my hols, but unfortunately nothing exciting to report.
Dita we must be in synch - AF arrived for me this morning too, and has been especially heavy and crampy. Mine was a 34 day cycle in the end, with a massive 15 day LP, which I'm guessing is due to the progesterone cream. I did have a little spotting on 9, 10 and 11 DPO, which is an improvement on previous cycles. Will start using it again on 1DPO this cycle and hopefully stop the spotting all together and get pg [wishful thinking emoticon]. On the 2WW till SWI can commence now. Thinking we'll try the every other day strategy this month, as perhaps the every day for a week strategy is using up all of DH's swimmers before they are needed!

Welcome to Fannylogan and SES, and good luck to Ali. We could do with another graduate soon

Am cracking open some wine to commiserate with myself re AF's arrival. Anyone is welcome to a glass

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