Assisted conception (and the bits in between!) - part 4 - all welcome

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Starting new thread with massive congratulations to Nanoo I reckon the old man can wait till he gets home! But of course - it's up to you really xxx

Argh! You're right - would have made much better story!

Mr and Mrs Smith? Yup, that's me and the DH, clones of Brad and Angelina...

It's good to know we have such beautiful and talented breeding stock in this thread.

CerubinaStrength that's a terrifying and yet amazing story. I'm so sorry you had to be put through the wringer. Not suprisingly the term I also had in my head was "rollercoaster"! My heart goes out to you, you must feel absolutely exhausted! Get some rest and take care of yourself, I'm so glad your LO has made it through this. And think of labour this way (my friend pg with her 6th told me this) Even if it's the worst pain in you LIFE, labour lasts plus or minus ONE DAY, then you have a baby in your arms!!! It makes it all worth it.

For me: TEST 3 - Negatory, again... 12DPO, now so this is probably not happening for me. I had fears of breaking the streak, as soon as it started. Sorry laydeez!

Rubbish Isle my lovely - if my experience is anything to go by, you have another week at least to go before you can rule yourself out! When I went for my blood test the nurse (who may of course just have been trying to stave off imminent hysteria) said that 19DPO still counted as early - so don't you dare count yourself out just yet

at least - for added emphasis!

nom nom nom I awfways new I wiked u! fanks I needud the guggle and biskwuts!

Just had the blood test result and it is 8 - which is a negative. Apparently anything below 10 won't sustain a viable pregnancy . Told to stop the progesterone.
Since I am searching a bit for that silver lining, I can drink buckets tonight and have sex with my H, which we have both been looking forward to!
And Isle, don't think I'll be disappearing completely woman, even if I am licking my wounds in the corner. Come on Stooges and settle in, you know you want to!

Frack, I hate it when you're right! I was so pulling for you SlickBird. I'm so sorry The tall fella and I discussed those upsides too this morning. The insult to injury is that I have to continue two shots a day, 4 patches a day and 4 pessiaries a day until Monday blood test.

Yesterday, I felt one of the patches come off while at my desk... took me a minute to locate it on the floor while a big-wig from another department watched me frantically trying to locate it! Then, when I went to the garage to leave work I found another patch stuck to the concrete floor next to my car! My hub joked that it's like my own brand of breadcrumbs. ha ha!

Oh Penguin. I'm so sorry. That is a kick in the teeth, you poor thing. Do they think that you did have a chemical then? If so perhaps getting to implantation is something to take a little comfort from in the next few days and weeks, but for now it's going to be a sad time. Sounds like a good plan for tonight at least, take care of yourself.

Isle I concur that it's still too early to call it over, and I do hope your three little frosties are just playing hard to get. Keep us posted, and keep thinking positively. Best to you.

Hi - I am sorry to just jump into your thread but wondered if anyone can help me?
I am on my final cycle of ovulation induction (5 before this have not worked).
Yesterday at my scan I had two 14.5mm follicles. They called for me to come back in today saying blood results did not match scan and I was scanned again- still 2 at 14.5mm. I just got a phone call there to take my ovitrelle trigger shot. Usually they wait until I get nearer 18mm and I am googling (bad google) that they need to be about 18-20mm and anything under 15 will not result in a pregnancy. I am now panicking that my last go is now over before we started. The nurse was unable to tell me why so early as the doctors have all gone home. I have to wait until Monday to talk to my consultant- sorry for rambling - am so confused. I have pcos and dh has poor morphology- they told us with us together it is already an uphill battle...
again am sorry for interupting but if anyone has any knowlegde of this I would be so grateful. TIA

Sorry to hear the sad news from Penguin. But enjoy your drink!

Isle, far too early to call it over, IMO too.

Penguin, so sorry to hereyour news.

Lorrelei i'm afraid I am a first timer so i know nothing but I do know my follciles were 2cms before I was asked to tke ovitrelle - does sound a bit odd.

I had a hideous day at the hospital today trying to find out where my pain is coming from. Nthing wrong with ovaries as I had a scan (she also said my endometrium was still nice and thick which is good). Had a urine test - nothing there - they just can't find owt wrong. I however have been sent home with someparacetamol and a big pain still in my adbdomen. I guess I have to put up with it and go to my GP on Monday if it's still bad.

Sorry about spelling smistakes - iphone

Aww Penguin, sorry to hear your news .

Best of luck for future BFP & liking your silver lining.

xxx

I can't believe so much has happened in the last 24hrs, its taken me ages just to read it all!

Penguin I'm so sorry things didn't work out for you this time. Good for you for remaining positive (but feel free to virtually scream at us across the virtual living room otherwise known as the internet if you get fed up of looking for silver linings)

Cerubina what a nightmare 2 days, you must have been so scared. So glad you seem to be OK now, just make sure relax and look after yourself

Amberc Sorry you've had such a rubbish day, so frustrating when you don't know what's wrong. I hope your feeling OK and tucked up safe somewhere tonight. Try not to stress to much over the weekend (easier said than done I guess)

Idreaminchocolate I'm starting down-regging at the beginning of March so I think I could be on stims the week before you but it might be delayed a week depending on how I respond to the hormones. (This is assuming I understood everything correctly!) So I think we will get to EC around the same time. I'm trying not to think about EC to much just in case I have a problem and don't get that far.

Lorelei Sorry, I don't think I can help you as I'm quite new to all of this but there's a knowledgeable lot on this thread so I'm sure someone will have some ideas.

Hi to everyone else and biscuits all round (healthy oaty ones to those trying to lose wait, although you know if you close your eyes when you swallow chocolate no calories stick )

Sorry I do know how to spell weight really!

penguin am so sorry to hear your news. I was so sure that you would be successful.

Isle good luck for the next couple of days, it isn't over yet.

I met up with old friends today and told them about my fertility issues. One of them told me 'that happened to me you know, I know exactly how you feel' and reminded me of the time (ten years ago) when she was constantly weepy and upset in work and no one knew whye must be so many of 'us' out there and we don't even know are going through the same thing.

Anyway - she eventually got pregnant through chinese herbal medicine and then again very soon after the birth of her first because she wasn't using contraception thinking there was no way she could possibly get pregnant again!

Was good to talk to someone who understood.

PenguinDreams - so sorry to hear your news. It?s time to bring in the big guns ? out with the choccy biccies and in with the vino and Hagen Dazs. Plenty for everyone! While it?s completely understandable that you would want to bow out for a while, but I hope that you don?t go too far or away for long ? you?ll definitely be missed. Enjoy your bonk xxx

Italiangreyhound - forgot to say yesterday that I thought it was interesting what you said about it maybe being better to wait a few weeks ? I was starting to feel a bit negative about the treatment and had a feeling that it wouldn?t work, but even though I was disappointed I actually felt the darkness lift and had more hope that it will work and that we?ll get our own little chocolate button. So, are we going to aim for a minimum of 6lbs loss before treatment starts? PerfectDromedary, you wanna join us? Really not convinced re: the chocolate covered polystyrene ? think I might branch out to Activia yoghurts instead. Have been a bit naughty today ? should be Idreaminbirthdaycake as DH?s birthday. Italian, I hadn?t heard of Italian Greyhounds before, but after your post I googled and found this. They are gorgeous! From now on that is how I will imagine you

Perfect - I have also been struggling with the whole waiting thing. I have also been Little Miss Stroppy Knickers (feel a new name coming on), as has, so I believe, Ms riggly. It?s tough ? I find cleaning quite therapeutic (I know, I?m weird?).

babybarrister - sounds as if you definitely need a prescription of wine (red or white ? take your pick, I?ve catered for all tastes) and ice cream. Tuck in!

riggles thanks for the oaty biscuits ? I always thought that flapjacks looked like a health food!

Islegrin - quite amused at your patch-shedding story!! No wine for you but plenty of ice cream still available, but please leave some for Cerubina - she sounds like she?s had quite a couple of days.

Hi Duelingfanjo, it?s good that you?ve found someone to talk to who knows how it all feels. I was just thinking that I?m so glad I?ve found this thread as it?s really helping me to feel better and a bit more normal ? as in I?m not the only person feeling the way I do or thinking the same (sometimes slightly bonkers) thoughts.

Lorelei1997 - I?m afraid that this is just the beginning of my IVF journey, so I don?t have any experience with your query, but these ladies are great for making you feel better, so if you fancy sticking around there are plenty of naughty and calorific goodies being passed round at the moment (you might have noticed all the crumbs and sticky paw prints on the thread?.)

MercenaryMom - do you keep a handgun stuffed in the top of your suspenders? Got one of those cool handbags that doubles up as an abseiling thingy? Just wondering? (Idream?s imagination goes into overdrive)

AmberC hope you?ve had yourself checked out ? big scoop of Praline & Cream for you xx

HAppy weekend to any ladies I've missed out xxx

Lorelei in all of the 6 cycles I did that produced follies, NEVER did they trigger with less than 20mm. Now, I cannot say for certain that it won't work, but I will say that my doc never went ahead with anything less than one or two follies over the 20mm mark. (I'm in the US, if you think that matters)

riggly I think you may have to prove your spelling skills a bit more. What else do you know how to spell?

babybarrister (is that lawyer? meaning new lawyer or lawyers for babies?) I completely understand how you feel at the frustration of GETTING STARTED ALREADY, damn! Even though in retrospect I've had 8 cycles of treatment plus some other random "procedures" all done within one calendar year! Which is a lot more than others have in the same time frame, but everything's relative, when your mind is ready to move forward, everything that stands in your way is like sand in your knickers!!! I'll stomp up and down with you if you like! But if your looking for something that may help - I'd suggest looking longer term and thinking where you will be in 5 years (with child at whatever age) or getting massively distracted.

For all of you non-believers/dismissers... do I get a special bonus prize if I am in fact correct and my tests do indicate a real negative? An extra choccie or summat? (Should I count it a good sign that I'm not in a ball crying on the floor and instead feel sparky enough to be cheeky??? I think so! Hurrah!) luv, luv

x-post with dreamyChocolate THANK YOU!!! FINALLY!!! I thought that story was snorting-good!

Here Cerubina I left a good bit of ice cream in the bottom and along the sides for you, go on then.

Oh, nearly forgot, Italian, I have been watching "One Born Every Minute" - it hasn't put me off yet, although the MN thread entitled "What I wish I'd known before giving birth" nearly did! Not looking forward to DH becoming a mute useless fop, though, which is what all the men on the programme seem to be.

Islegrin, how about if you are right (but still hoping not, just for the record), I make you a nice chocolate martini? Best of both worlds

Lorelei oh, and just remembered that they actually delayed me from triggering a few times when follies weren't big enough and gave me more stimms and verified before triggering. (only months ago, but in some ways seems forever) Hope that helps.

IDIC youuuuuuuu have yourself a DEAL!!! oh, I think I just found another best friend!!! and then I can go home and molest my hub and wait for all the other patches to fall off!

Big snuggly hugs to Penguin and Cerubina, and a Friday wave to all the rest of you lovely ladies - can't copy with typing on DH's silly little laptop, so will lurk quietly.

Hi all

Penguindreams so sorry to hear about the test. But on the plus side you have your embies ready to go and there is some evidence that fets work well because your body does not have the drugs in your system so maybe your embies will make it.

Cerubina so sorry to hear about your bad experience but hope all is OK now. Let me tell you about me and the camping trip! A few years back when 24 weeks pregnant with DD I went camping in a caravan to a Christian summer festival called New Wine. I went to the shower block because was in pain, it was rhythmic stomach pain like what I imagine labour to be (no previous experience so who knew) and I stood under the water thinking ? I am going to give birth at 24 weeks alone in a shower block! Luckily, I decided to go back to caravan and told DH felt ill. At 5 a.m. DH went in search of nurse volunteer at camp. He luckily guessed right that I would be furious if h returned alone so he brought nurse with him. She gave me Paracetamol and I threw it up, she said it was not labour as was only on one side, it looked like food poisoning from dodgy burger at campsite BBQ! Nurse prayed for me and left. Next day her colleague listened to heartbeat on dopler thing and months later DD was born safely. May have no relieve to you but just thought I would mention it!

PerfectDromedary how to handle the wait? I will think about it and get back to you.

MercenaryMom I want a rabbit as a baby substitute! We are looking after a hamster and I love it. I have not yet started wheeling around a doll but who knows!

islegrin your patches seem quite funny, like giant nicotine patches, except I don't think you usually need four of them.

Lorelei1997 Welcome, sorry the docs/nurses have left you feeling cr*p at the start of the weekend! I am afraid I can't offer any guidance. I would chat to them on Monday and see how it goes. If it does fail and you think that it has anything to do with the size of the follicles, could you complain, get another cycle for free. I am just guessing. It may well work and I am sure they know what they are doing but at least if you make your concerns known now if it does not work you may have grounds for a complaint but cross that bridge when you come to it! One site suggests... ?the norms are unmedicated 20-24mm, clomiphene citrate 20-24mm, FSH-only meds 17 or 18mm minimum, and FSH+LH would be 16 or 17mm minimum. It is possible for slightly smaller follicles, 14-15mm, to contain a viable egg. Also, follicles continue to grow until they release, usually at a rate of about 1-2 mm per day. A woman may ovulate more than one follicle in a cycle, but the releases will occur within 24 hours. When hCG is not used, only follicles close in size are likely to release. The use of hCG induces ovulation in about 95 percent of women, and will get most mature follicles to rupture.? This is from www.fertilityplus.org/faq/iui.html have no idea how valid or true it is so please ask the professional but hope this helps.

Idreaminchocolate how is the fitness regime! Yes, at least 6 pounds loss before treatment, it's a deal! I am so glad the darkness lifted a bit; as long as it was not chocolate darkness (my fav is dark chocolate!). Just try and be positive, I have no idea if it makes it any more likely to happen but it makes it easier to bear! Or is that bare! I think you just never know. Each month, each egg, is different, who knows which one will take, so we just have to take our chances when we have them, but with treatment for those of us who are fertilcularly-challenged is so much better. Just stay calm, stay off the cake and let?s hope for a yummy giant chocolate button in about 9 months and 6 weeks (for both/all of us)!

Thanks for the greyhound picture, it is lush. I must admit they are cute. The original site I saw the name Italian greyhound at was probably madaboutitaly.com/italian_greyhound_elegant_graceful_dogs_from_italy.htm there is good info and photo here www.petmd.com/dog/breeds/c_dg_italian_greyhound The more I see about them the more lovely they seem. I am more of a dog than a cat person but we can?t really have a dog at the moment as I am too lazy to walk it! Better stop, this is not assisted pet ownership!

Regards to DuelingFanjo - glad you found someone to talk to.

Horton where are you/what are you up to?