TTC - Clomid Part 3

[stac14]

Follow on from the old thread for people trying to conceive using fertility treatments.

fairy hope all goes well (don't mention crumble and custard - I'm trying to diet!)

hows everyone else?
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Hi all hope you are all ok. Welcome becky everyone on here is lovely and have all been a great support.

How did you get on fairy?

Well i'm a little confused and f*ed off! I had my progesterone bloods done yesterday (CD29) and called for the results today and they said i haven't ovd! This is my 6th month of clomid, 5th on 100mg, where apparently i was ov'ing. They want me to stay on the same dose and track me again next month. I'm confused as i had a nice big follicle and now nothing! Is it because i am now taking metformin? Is it because they took the bloods so late? Or have i just wasted months of clomid because they weren't monitoring me????
I just hate this not knowing whats going on!! Why is it so bloody hard???

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Hi stac14 and popsy1, thanks for the welcome.
popsy1 the only monitoring I've had while on Clomid is 21day blood tests. I've had no scans to check follicles or anything like that they just checked everything before I started the Clomid. How long are you on the Clomid for? I was told that I can only have it for 6 months, after that its IVF.
Good luck to all ttc xxx

Hey Stac14,

I see you are pregnant how many months are you.

I am so happy for you.

I have not been here for so long... I have been off treatment,it got to be so hard for me.

Trying for so long and nothing just made me want to take a break.

But, Hopefully soon I will get back into trying.

I wish you the best and hope all of the rest of the ladies are doing great.

So many new peps on here now.

Hello rugma becky My monitoring has been very hit and miss. Originally i had no monitoring, this time round i have had monitoring until they found the 'right' dose!! Aparently that was 100mg, now i'm not so sure. I have had 9 cycles 8 yrs ago and on 6th cycle with 3 more til thats it. They only started to monitor me again because we kicked up a bit
It just seems to vary from cons to cons!

good luck all

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Hi ya girls,

Sorry it's taken so long to get on here. Phone calls from Mum, sister & best friend.

We're being put forward for IVF because the cons gave us 3 options - 1-6 months more clomid (although he doesn't understand why it hasn't worked so far as everything seems to be 'normal' now) 2- IUI & pinpointing ovulation, 3- IVF.
He said how desperately did we want a baby & we said very so he said IVF was the way to go.

I'm happy we have more chance at a baby but would have liked more investigations into why it's not happening.

The clomid is to stop which will mean my cycles are back out the window. But I still have 1 more cycle here so gonna start that tomorrow.

Was also sent home early from work today as I was so ill - hot & cold sweats, nausea, runny nose, & I burst into tears in the heads office! I think this bloody cold has become flu-like & it's ganging up on me with af!!!!!!!!

beck we'll all get there soon. My best friend lives in Cumbria & her initial tests were scans to see when she ovulated. She got preg that night! It had taken 5 years!!!!

stac now I'm (sort of) off the clomid i might fall pg naturally like you!

Must say Jo he never mentioned my weight!!!! Although I have put a lot back on over xmas - in my defense I am now on & also my boobs are much bigger than a month ago - mayb e people who want implants should just go on clomid!!!!! DH has really noticed tonight - shame I'm not in the mood he's in as I feel totally rubbish!

Pops my cons said that I couldn't have metformin cos it wouldn't make a mnoticeable effect for me. Could you be ovulating late? Are they gonna check the follicle?

By the end of all this I think we should become cons as our knowledge of this infertility lark is huge!!! We are almost specialists!!!!

Clure we are destined to go through this together obviously. Hope you can get some positive answers on Monday!

Thanks for all your good luck wishes

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beck - I've only had 21 day bloods & no other monitoring!

hi beck and rugama fairy sorry af got you and what a time to be feeling rotten anyway. Hope you're feeling better soon. i did my wii fit this morning and thats another thing thats obviously broken, couldn't believe how much I'd put back on and felt so disappointed in myself (but enjoyed every mouthful lol!)

popsy I don't know enough about progesterone - does the level stay up for a while after you've ov'ed? I can't understand how you can have had such a big follicle come to nothing. Something doesn't seem right. Can you push to have the trigger jab next cycle? What a lot on your plate at the moment,don't forget to take care of yourself.

Hope everyone else is ok, snow is a distant memory here.

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popsy do you know if you usually ov by cd 21? I felt sometimes my bloods were done too late, if your already oving the metformin wouldnt change that hun

fairy sorry af got you but thats fab news about the cons puting you forward for IVF. Do you know when you stop?

rugma hiya not heard from you in ages, whats been happening with you? I am nearly fourteen weeks

Hows everyone else? xx

Hi all,
Great news on the IVF Fairy
Does anyone have a Clearblue Fertility Monitor? If so, are they any good?
I've told DP that we got to get plenty of bedding in this month
Stac14 was you on Clomid? How long did it take you to get pregnant? Congrats!
Good luck to all ttc xxx

I'm glad your appointment went well Fairy how are you feeling about starting IVF? Did they give you any idea of when you will be starting? Do you get a free attempt?

My bloods were done on cycle 2,3,5 & 6 on either 21 or 22 and although they weren't high they were over 30. However this month, Cycle 6 they follicle tracked me because of the addition of metformin. Had scans on cd 8 (no response) cd14 (13mm), cd17 (16mm), cd20 (24.3mm) and then a scan on cd22 and they said the follicle was collapsing so to o for bloods 7days later. The nurse said maybe they'd scanned too late. It's just so confusing. Ive got to go for scans again next month. Just feel its another month gone by with a failed attempt. Think your right fairy complete experts maybe we should all combine our expertise and write a book!!

Hi jo Yep my plate is rather full, my theory is to keep busy! I'm hoping it works!How are things with you?

I'm also full of cold, feeling really rough was hoping for a snow day this week so i could have a duvet day. Even one of the kids said today "you should be at home Miss" then added " i really do care!" how sweet, one of those heart warming moments
Love to all
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Hi popsy, when I had my bloods done, they never told me anything other than I ovulated. What do you mean by 'over 30'?
Should they be over a certain number?
Good luck to all ttc xxx

They told me that the results need to be above 30 if you have ov'd. Mine were only 26 this time. Im not really sure how it works or what my levels are before ovulation. Questions i must ask when i have to go for my scans.

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I wish I had the scans just so I knew what was happening. Someone I know was on Clomid and had the scans, on her first cycle they didn't scan but on her second cycle they scanned her and she got pregnant. I've got to have bloods done on day 21 for the next 3 cycles, not sure why as they aren't actually going to tell me the results until I go back in May and then were going to talk about IVF or other options.
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Hi all,

Hello to Becky and Laura and I guess from what you wrote welcome back ruguma.

I can't add much about the Clomid monitoring discussion, I am still on my first month and was told I needed the ultrasound because I was slim rather than to check ovulation, sounded like they don't do it for everyone in my clinic? I had day 21 bloods, and if this month comes to nothing will call to get the results before deciding what to do next month.

For those of you that have just joined I am in an odd position because I have been trying for over three years so the consultant put me straight on the IUI list and gave me Clomid as an afterthought. I am going to the IUI intro meeting in Feb so might only get two goes at Clomid before moving on.

Becky I have a fertility monitor. Mixed feelings about it really. Its nice on the months when you get the ovulating symbol but it was really expensive and the sticks are really expensive too. It also makes me a bit crazy at times, feel like it makes me too focused on the whole thing.

I am beginning to think if I could just ignore this whole issue for a while it might sort itself out-unfortunately there is another bit of me counting down days every cycle and trying to imagine something is happening that isn't.

Last day at work yesterday, so had leaving do in the pub last night. Was driving so perfect excuse not to drink. Got asked by someone (drunk) if I am going to have children. Replied that I didn't have time with a new job....hahaha, little does she know....has anyone else got a better answer when you are asked this?

Clure good luck for the appointment next week, Fairy how are you feeling about IVF? Hope it's what you wanted, glad the consultant took you seriously and it sounds like he listened to you, which is a start.
Hi Geez, Pink, Stac, jobo and Popsy and anyone else I missed,
Sorry for the long post!
Jaffa cake flavoured baby dust

hey becky i have been ttc for 2 years, at first do blamed the pill for lack of af, then eventually started doing bloods that showed no ovulation. Which suggested pcos. He then sent me to a consultant. I was prescribed clomid and sent for internal scans to confirm pcos. While on clomid i had cd 21, 28 and 35. I only ov'd once during 6 cycles. Unfortunately i am one of the unlucky ones clomid doesnt work for. Cons sent me for hsg, but there was no blockages. When i went back to cons he said my only option was ivf (which i would have to fund as have ds) could get it cheaper if i entered the egg sharing programm. I wasnt ready financially or emotionally. So i asked for 6months of clomid with metformin. I only took metformin for bout 2months and got bfp, i will be 14wks 2m. I stay on here as i have met lots of friends and want to know how everyone gets on. With the fertility monitors i never used them, was advised by someone on here that if you have pcos they are useless but who knows lol. Wish you every success with your journey. Sorry for huge post x

sorry so rude today, how is everyone? clure how are you about mondays app?

fairy has all the info sunk in yet?

Whats the plans for the weekend? We are shopping tomorrow and friends tomorrow night so should be good xx

Hi ya,

Crawlled out of my sick bed to catch up on last nights convos.

Jo the fertility nurse was right funny with me when she weighed me (although I'm almost a stone lighter than last time). She asked me if anyone had ever given me my BMI. I said I have a wii fit & know I'm overweight - that shut her up. Can't believe she was off with me when only one woman in the clinic looked the weight she should be. The other women were bigger than me!!!!

Stac don't know exactly when but my referal doesn't go through till the bloods, scans & swabs are all done! The cons also said that although the clomid is doing right by making me ovulate it isn't working in the sense that I'm still unable to get preg.

Pops don't think he mentioned how many attempts but it isn't gonna cost because neither of us have children from previous relationships!

Beck It sounds like your treatment is the same as mine. My bloods only told me whether I'd ovulated or not, nothing about my hormone levels. I was told that monitors & sticks are useless for PCOS as our hormone levels are dodgy!

Everyone keeps saying how fantastic it is & I'm happy something important is being done but I'm also a realist in the fact that It's a tough road, it still might not happen for us, & I've gotta be emotionally strong.

I have you guys, some very supportive close friends, Clure is easy to reach too & of course DH (who is at my beck & call at the mo). Still wanna do some reading of my own!

Spreading the baby dust (un-fluy!)

Hi everyone, I haven't been on here before, can I join in? I started first cycle of clomid yesterday after 27 months ttc and really feeling like I need to connect with some peeps who understand.

Have been told one of my tubes is blocked and likely PCOS but they couldn't confirm. Last time I saw the consultant he helpfully told me 'that is why god created two tubes'. lovely.

Good luck to you all. x

Hi carebear Welcome.

We're all lovely on here & will def understand!

I've been trying ttc #1 for 26 months! I've now been taken off clomid & being referred for IVF. My tubes are fine but have PCOS.

When's your next appointment?

can anyone help? Ooh I have a conundrum (is that how you spell it???) do I take the last cycle of clomid this month????

Also am I allowed to stay without the clomid? lol. Maybe the next thread needs to be Clomid 4: The Experienced!!!!

fairy like the name of that thread lol I say why not take the clomid, it wont do you any harm hun (you never know). If you cant stay on without the clomid then what am I doing here lol

carebear Welcome to the thread, I have pcos not blocked tubes and got bfp in November after 2 years ttc, have had so much support from the ladies on here I cant bear to leave lol. I felt the same as you about needing to talk to people who knew what I was going through. All my friends fell pregnant easily. Hope your well and if theres anything you want to know just ask as fairy says we have become very knowledgable on this subject

Hi,
Im new here...hope you dont mind me interrupting
I started my 3rd round of clomid 2days ago 100mg.First rounds were 50mg with no luck....stupid thing is i have no (known) fertility issues. I had my first baby 4yrs ago(no help) but things took a tragic turn at the hospital. I was a wk overdue and they were so busy that day i wasnt monitored properly 20hrs in labour someone checked me and my daughter was struggling 4 oxygen..10mins later they rushed me in2 a room,put me 2 sleep and sectioned me. it was too late tho she didnt make it..if they had been doing their job she wud b here! I then got pregnant(no help) a yr later with my son. due to them actually falling over themselves 2 monitor me this time all was fine He is 2 now i then got pregnant again (no help) and miscarried at 14wks. then got pregnant again and miscarried at 7wks. So here i am!!! hav been diagnosed with underactive thyroid....now under control. Im on clomid 2 c if can help us conceive as nothing happening for a whole year.so fingers crossed this is our month! 2 days of tabs left 2 take. no side effects!best of luck 2 every`ttc

Fairy

May I ask why they have suggested IVF? (and not say another possible way forward like ovarian diathermy).

I only ask as with IVF there is a risk of ovarian hyperstimulation in women with PCOS who undergo IVF and so careful monitoring is required.

Thank you both, that is lovely, just what I needed to hear.

Fairy, unless you've been told not to take it then can it do any harm to take another month? Good luck with the ivf - keep strong and hang in there.

Congrats Stac14 and its good you're still on here to give encouragement and hope to ones like me!

I'm ttc #1 too and my next appointment is April. Was given 6 months of Clomid but only decided to take it this month. As they don't know why one tube is blocked I'm terrified it might do something to block the other. really tired of it now.

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Unfortunately clomid does not always work for all PCOSers and some of them are not actually suitable candidates for clomid in the first instance. I was never even given the opportunity by my cons to take clomid as in his words, "it would not help me". (I have PCOS and was diagnosed with this several years ago).

I have read that around 3 out of 4 ovulate on clomid but only around 1 in 3 actually become pg as a result of clomid usage.

Clomid's main job is to make the ovaries work harder.

In my case PCOS caused my LH levels to go sky high; what clomid can also do is increase LH levels markedly hence monitoring is needed. Many (but not all) PCOSers have an excess of LH to that of FSH.