TTC - Clomid Part 3

[stac14]

Follow on from the old thread for people trying to conceive using fertility treatments.

thanks jobobpip08 people ask me why i go throw it they dont understand and they never will unless they are in are shoes

milly exactly - I could bet they're people who have never had to 'try' to get pregnant!

popsy how long is your cycle normally? You are supposed to ovulate 14 days before the end of your cycle.

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Your so right bout people being condesending when ttc. I tried to explain as much as possible about the processes we were going through, but even in doing that people then started thinking we couldnt have a baby at all. So frustrating. Try to ignore them though. I hated the provera and clomid, felt as if i got all the side effects, my mood swings were shocking. Even dp said why was i puting myself through that, now i'm so glad we did it was totally worth it.
How is everyone today? Sorry for long winded post, when i pop i cant stop lol xx

Hi! Hope you don't mind me dropping in.

I was on Mumsnet a couple of years ago as I was TTC number 2. I have a DS who is 9. Had no probs at all Concieving with him.

10 years later, after trying for almost 7 years, we have discovered I have PCOS. Explains a hell of a lot! (durrr!!)

We have been refered to fertility clinic and i have to lose weight before I can go on Clomid. I'm not huge, but because of the PCOS I have put on weight and also been told it's going to be a hell of a fight to lose it too . I keep putting off going back because I don't what them to tell me i haven't lost enough weight.

Stupid I know!!

HI dodgyovaries welcome. It doesn't sound silly at all. It's just one more thing for you to worry about. And with PCOS it isn't an easy task!

Wouldn't it be lovely if the men could take some of the pressure??

jobob my cycles vary from 31 -39. Just checked in diary and we have covered all bases so to speak!

milly it can be so frustrating. You are completely right, people who haven't been here just don't get it!
Hope ypu are feeling better, i really suffer from taking clomid, haven't taken preverva though.

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Jobob you are totally right. I've not been through it but been the support system in such circumstance. And YES Stac even close family members are totally useless at support. They can see how much you are going through & the emotional pain when ttc & yet they continue to talk about how easy it was for them, the little details about their pregnancy or just say that they don't understand and therefore can't support you!!!!!
Who needs enemies when you have family eh?

Hi dodgy i have PCOS too & ttc#1. I was given clomid but told to continue with further help I'd have to lose weight. I've got 1.76 BMI to lose by 14th Jan to be BMI 30 (hmmm me thinks that aint gonna happen but I'm gonna give it a good try). I kept telling dr for a few years that the pill was making me ill, that my cycle was all over the place & my bloody sugar level was dodgy & finally after a year of not being able to concieve I was sent to my fertility clinic whi scanned my ovaries & confirmed I had PCOS! So much for the health system. That was a year ago now & now it's cycle 5 of clomid. Fingers crossed for this month.

Popsy fingers crossed for you too. I think I've been covering all the bases this month. DH has never had it so good! Can't say it won't be for lack of trying this month!!! Today is the ultimate ovulation day apparently although the niggles are almost non-existant today.

Hey Clure hope you are ok. How was Wales? Ready for spring term???

Fieworks of Baby Dust
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Hi all,
Sorry for silence, protracted period at MILs to blame for that....no fireworks there so all good.

I agree with all the comments about people not understanding all of this, haven't really tired to explain it to very many people but just feel like screaming at those I have sometimes when they make thoughtless comments.

Hope everyone had a good Christmas? Stac gald to hear you are doing well.

Finished the Clomid on Monday, having horrible mood swings, really not normally a weepy person but even someone being rude to me in a shop set me off today-not who was more shocked, her or me!

I'm still on Baileys flavoured baby dust until at least Friday...

Hey ladies, sorry if I sounded like a know all earlier didnt meant too. Just really hate the way people act about ttc as if its a god given right and because they had no probs then no-one else should. The one that always galled me was when they said it happened so quickly for me. When i was ttc ds I fell within 3 months I assumed this time round would be the same omg was I in for a shock. I think unless you have been through it you should refrain from commenting. Sometimes just being there is better than opening thier big traps. Think this is why I turned to MN I needed people who know exactly what its like to be in our shoes. done it again, sorry girls but this does so annoy me.

Welcome to the thread dodgyovaries I was diagnosed with pcos in 2007 have just found out I am pregnant after 20 months ttc. We were on clomid but unfortunately I am one of the minority for which clomid doesnt work. The cons was pushing me in the direction of IVF (very expensive) or IVF with egg donation (give mine to someone else get cheaper IVF) but I asked for metformin which is proven to assist women with pcos. Was given that for a 6 month trial with clomid. I started in August wanted to let the metformin get into my system before starting the clomid but by November I had a bfp. Good luck on your journey hun, everyone on here is so supportive. So good I am still here doing everyones head in lol

Thanks ven was mil really bad?

Hey fairy jobob clure and popsy whats the plans for new year? We still cant decide, I cant be bothered lol x

Hey stac - you're not doing anyones head in. We'll all be joining your club soon - we'll have to rename the thread!!!! Lol
Totally agree - I joined MN to talk to people that are in the same situation & to learn moore about clomid. Without it I won't have realise that I had more in common with a friend from work!!!
Hi Ven glad the holiday's wasn't as stressful as it could have been. Poor you with the mood swings. I'm happy to say I haven't been an evil cow this month but I'm also off work for the holidays so that could be I'm destressed!
Plans are uncertain for new years - could be a party, could be spending time with fam or could be just the two of us! We'll see how the day pans out!
How about everyone else?

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Hi dodgy and welcome. Losing weight is hard enough, harder still with the added stress of seeing fertility consultants etc.

stac you didn't sound like a know all, just someone who's been there!

I can't be bothered with the new year either and the tree came down today too! Artificial too, so can't blame needle drop!

hi ven looks like your mil got away lightly with the side effects then!

fairy I'm quite lucky with most people, the mums at school who are brave enough to talk to me about it are the ones who have had their own problems. My dad was the one who, not wanting to see my pain after my 8 week miscarriage in the summer asked (with tears in his eyes) if i had thought about stopping? Its not that easy tho, is it? .
The one thing DH and I both hate this being in limbo, we can't move forward, we can't plan holidays (you know, 'in case' I'm pregnant and had a panic about the baby I would need an english speaking hospital etc). We have even talked about adoption recently, 'in case'. Even DS asked today when we are getting a baby, I've had to be honest now and tell him that my tummy isn't working properly thats why I have to keep seeing the doctor. Sorry if I have brought anyone down, just really feeling it at the mo.

On a happier note, cocktail sausages, oven baked breaded camembert, curried chickeny bits and garlic bread with a side order of baileys sprinkled with baby dust!Mmmm. xxx

Jobo know what you mean about the limbo - been like it for 2 years, not going on school journeys & things. Was offered a course to go on recently (it fell through) but was thinking I could possibly be on maternity leave & might not be able to do it but then again I might not. Thats the thing about being a teacher - wondering when I'll be taking leave or what my plans for next year are.

I asked DH when we should put our tree down, Friday or Sat. No reply yet. lol.

Jobo your baby dust sounds really nice
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Jobo, I totally recognise the limbo too-started a new job three years ago, thinking any minute I would be on maternity leave, due to start another new job in 3 weeks, still thinking I better not book a holiday too far in advance etc...

Stac, yes MIL did get off lightly with the mood swings. She always says just relax and do what you like and then spends the rest of the trip telling us not to do whatever we are doing!

Happy New Year!
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Aw thanks all of you making me feel so welcome!

I am lucky tho, as I have a DS, so i can't beat me self up too much. Just sooo fustrating.

I had a scan on my ovaries back in 2006, and was told that because I was having periods I was ovulating!

I am determined to lose the weight come the new year tho. DS is 10 in Feb so it's such a huge age gap.

Do you girls suffer from severe PMT/S? I have just been prescribed some Anti D's for it as I have turned in to a monster over the last 6 months

Good luck to you all and huge Congrats Stac14! show's there IS a light at the end of the tunnel!

Happy New Year to you all and hopefully we'll all be celebrating BFP's!

dodgyovaries thanks hun, i have a ten year old ds, had him with previous partner. His dads an ass. Dp and i wanted baby of our own, while i agree that if you have any kids already you should be thankful. I feel that if you have that yearning you should be entitled to the help and support to get there. After all women who dont need help ttc arent told to be grateful for the kids they already have. Bout the age gap I was concerned too as there are ten years between my sis and me but my cuz has a 17 year old son who has a brother and sister that are 4 and 6 and he loves helping out. Have the cons told you, you need to loose weight? Our nhs offered a weight management scheme so check it out incase gp can help. Have you started the anti-d's since you went on clomid? It can be really bad for pmt, but they could change you to femera, probs havent as its more expensive. Hope you have a great new year xxx

ven mil is lucky its been a good month with clomid lol, its always harder when they have to stay with you. Dp keeps talking about moving away as we only live a short drive from his family but as i see it at least we can come home or they can go home when we have had enough of each other lol hope you have a great new year xx

jobob i mentioed taking the tree down and dp nearly took a strop, he says its to stay up till the 6th as its bad luck, but they are coming to put our new kitchen and bathroom in on the 6th so he will have to compromise lol, enjoy your evening and all the best when it comesxx

fairy your right we will have to change the thread, then we will all be talking about trapped wind and stretch marks lol thanks for making me feel welcome, probs my hormones lol. Have a great night.xx

Hope you all have a great new year, all the best when it comes. I,m hoping for a quiet one as can't be bothered but no doubt i will be talked into something. Hope alls well with clure and thislittle roll on 2010 for lots of bfp's on here xxx

millymolly hope your not still feeling ill with the provera, have they offered anything else? All the best when it comes xx

I haven't started the Clomid yet as they want me to lose weight. I keep putting off going back because I havent' lost the weight. although they didn't tell me how much i need to lose!

I'm going to book another appointment for the new year and just have to put up with the 'you haven't lost weight so you can't start Clomid'

Think I need a rocket up my bum!

dodgyovaries i was given the clomid even though i needed to loose weight, if they see you are trying they may be a bit more helpful. If not ask for metformin, it helps with the pcos and also helps you loose weight. It was using this that helped me fall pregnant. You can also ask your gp about it, worth a shot. They were given me nothing else after 6 months of clomid so i asked for the met. X

Ooooh stac, that sounds just the job.

I never knew about these things. I suppose i didn't know what to ask for

Did you lose a lot of weight on it?? x

Stac I might suggest that too when I go to see the cons on 14th!

Cheers hon xxx

Dodgy, what is your BMI? Cos I'm def in the over weight category but he gave me clomid anyway & was told to lose weight in case I needed further help. When I researched, most clinic won't treat you unless your BMI is under 30.

Don't know if that helps?

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Hi fairy

I have a BMI of 33.

I haven't been told what i need to get down to, but I'm determined to do something about.

They say it's harder for PCOS women to lose weight, is that right??

Hello all.

No plans for tonight stac, think we are just gunna have a quite one. I don't really like new year that much, so a meal, a few drinks and a snuggle on the sofa for me!! God i'm a crazy chick

dodgy i never knew anything about metformin until stac mentioned it. I'm on Cd16 on my 6th month. I had my cons appointment and they wanted to pursue the IUI or IVF avenue with me, until i asked for metformin. She was very reluctant (and very stupid) but eventually, after consulting my cons, she gave me 3months worth combined with clomid 100mg. It's def worth a try hun. The doc said to me that because it isn't proven that it helps, then some docs are for it and some against. Pot luck, i think!!

Scan tomorrow ladies, so fingers crossed my little follicle will now be a huge follicle Think i am starting to ov as a few niggles and a CM!

Wishing you all a wonderful new year and i am genuinely oping that 2010 is our year ladies. It's about bloody time

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Hi dodgy - yeah it is really hard. I wouldn't say my diet is bad really. Ok I don't eat my 5-a-day but I try to. Never skip meals & always go for the healthier option. I went to weight watchers & put weight on!!!!!! My friend just couldn't believe it as she was losing & I put on. The weeks I lost weight was when I'd been out clubbing & drinking at the weekend!!!!

Good luck Popsy - I'm getting almost period type pains today. Could be from the amount of BDing we've done lately!!! I just hate this stumbbling around in the dark. I just feel utterly useless which is not a good state for me. I like to be in control! A few years ago before I found the one to settle down with I always hoped that I'd fall preg without realising cos I know what I'm like for being impatient! Someone's now certainly teaching me a lesson of patience!

This has def got to be our year - we'll up the birth rate drastically between the lot of us! lol.

Think we're now daying in with a nice meal, a cuddle on the sofa & Orlando (one of my fantasy men) on tv!!!!

Fireworks & party popper baby dust
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thanks fairy and popsy popsy good luck tomoz! Can you request the Metformin from your GP?

fairy I eat really sensibly. I do have a 'treat' once a week. I don't do enough exercise, that's the prob!

Hope you all have a very Happy New Year! Have a great night! We're staying in (as usual!) and getting cozy!!

thanks everone no they have not stac. how are u. new years eve and theirs water comeing throw my bathroom ceiling. i have one more day of provera. hope everone has better luck in 2010. happy new year everone. hopeing my af does not take that long to come.

stac I walk under ladders in the hope that bad luck + bad luck = good luck! We can't possibly get anymore back luck lol! I'm cursing tho as I was to quick and missed a few deccies and have to go back up into the loft!

Farewell 2009; you won't be missed. Hello 2010, hope you're a damned sight better! Hope everyone has a great evening, whether party animal or couch potato!

Midnight countdown sparkly baby dust xxx