The Hut of Gl/Doom... Please don't ask about our reproductive plans as a smack round the head with TCOYF often offends

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new thread.

for those who are having problems getting pg

or staying pg

or are simply fed up of being told to relax and having to smile and say "you never know"

thank you heebee x

Hey, can I join the hut? I bring offerings of vodka and green & blacks...

I'm in a grump. I'm 38, had dd (2) after 4 months ttc. Been ttc for No 2 for 15 months.

Darling mother told me today her menopause started v early, as did her mother's - but she can't remember how early is early.

DH won't do sperm test and says it will happen if its meant to be.

Doctor told me blood tests revealed my LH and FSH levels are raised slightly. So am now paranoid about being peri-menopausal.

And if one more person tells me 1) to chill out or it will never happen, or 2) you already have a beautiful daughter, can't you just be grateful for that? I will absolutely lose my mind... grrr

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Oh god Lissie so sorry

Hi Anniemac and Shrekmissus, thank you for your comments. I am feeling better today, determined to be more positive and stop moping (as DH put it..... arghhh!). And it was good to hear that your hormone levels were up before conceiving - will have a look at the older posts as you suggested.

I'm on the case and cleaning the house and starting a very strict diet today (I have recurrent infections of thrush in my gut and my dietician told me yesterday that can cause fertility probs... and I have eating ALL the wrong stuff lately.. oops). So I'm now on a diet of cardboard and vodka... except I'm also trying to give up the vodka [mmm]

We'll see what the doctor says about the next blood results.

Lissie, I've just been reading back through all the posts and I know I don't know you, but I was so sorry to read your news. Why is nature such a bloody cruel mistress? I think we should all gang up on her and give her a good hiding.

Anyway... on with the cleaning/dog walking/washing/anything to keep me busy and therefore not moping thinking.

Hey Anniemac - bloody candida . I was diagnosed 4 years ago and when I can eat sensibly I am fine.... however, I don't think drinking red wine, eating cheese straws and finishing DD leftovers can really be classed as eating sensibly . How long have you suffered? Do you manage it better than me?

I'm wondering if you might know the answer to this question... I've been given a really high dose of caprylic acid (amongst other things) for a month. And was told NOT to get pregnant whilst taking this. (She wanted me to do 3 months but I'm not getting any younger and I promised I would be very very good with my diet so we compromised on a month).

Do you know why shouldn't get pg (chance would a fine thing!) whilst on the caprylic acid? I did ask but she wasn't sure, and even thought it might just be a kind of bog standard warning they put on all supplements, just to cover themselves.

Of course DH is well chuffed to have a month off!

Thank you :-)

Ok, just spoke to the nurse at my surgery - she said my blood results in June were

FSH 28.8
LH 20.2

And the results from the bloods taken this week are:

FSH 8.9 (which is normal-ish, isn't it?)
LH 3.2 (I have no idea whether this is low or high.....)

And now I am more confused than ever! The only thing I've done differently since June is have acupuncture.

I've just been online shopping and bought wheatgrass, spirolina and 7 keto... I hope that lot will still be ok given new results? Now I am confused....

And from another thread, I have bought Maca for DH! Talk about throw everything at the problem and hope something will stick

annie- I also got pregnant as soon as I started running. In fact both pregnancies (the one I lost in 2006 and the now 2 week old Bug) in the last 6 years were a month or two after starting running again. I haven't run knowingly at any other time in the 6 years, and was barren as barren can be for most of those years. I reckon it's the boost it gave my metabolism (am very slightly hypothyroid) that contributed.

oh fuck. lissie i've only just seen this.

so sorry, so so sorry.

Hi annie - oh yes, I've been very studious! Apparently with candida you can still have vodka or gin with fruit juice (not from concentrate). But after my birthday blowout last weekend I am giving up coffee, booze, dairy, sugar and yeast... hence I am left with cardboard. Or food that just tastes like cardboard.

Ooh you are bfp?! So the supplements have worked?!! That gives me hope YAY!!! Congratulations and well done for not accepting the diagnosis handed out by the medical profession (did I read that you were told you wouldn't conceive without IVF?).

I used to run in my early 20's and would love to start again but on the few occasions I've tried I nearly died! Maybe cycling instead... I could get the bike out and dust the cobwebs off

Unfortunately we can't try this month due to the tablets I'm on.... but maybe if I take all the supplements for a month and try and get some exercise then next month month could be the month. I'll keep you posted!

Thanks for all the advice

Hi again Annie - yes I had day 21 tests. I don't know what the numbers were - I was just told they were normal.

Hi all

Welcome Polly - they never told me the results of any of my day 21 tests either - just that they were fine. I don't think they like you to have too much information!

Well I'm mid 2ww at the moment. The bankruptingly expensive injections and double strength tamoxifen did their job and I produced 4 eggs, though much to my consultant's relief, only 3 were viable, though even he was looking a bit nervous with 3. Annoyingly, (or maybe not) the steroids I'm on for the killer cells stuff mask any symptoms so there is no point in me trying to spot..

DH, bless him, also read up on extra supplements for him and spent a small fortune in holland and barrett.

Incidentally, I had a friend who was ttc for 2 years and went on a detox and got her bfp.. I tried it but it didn't do anything for me, but you never know...

Lissie - hope you're ok

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Morning shrek

I didn't have IB with DD but was just googling for you... Found this which is quite interesting...

?Appearance - Implantation bleeding tends to be a lighter pink/brown colour rather than the dark red that's usual for menstrual blood.

?Timing - If you conceive you will experience implantation bleeding before your period is due, usually around 9 days after you ovulate. (although most sites I looked at say IB can happen 6-10 days after OV)

?Duration - Implantation bleeding tends only to last for a day or two and occurs intermittently.

?Heaviness - Unlike the progressively heavy flow of a menstrual period, implantation bleeding tends only to occur as light spotting or coloured discharge.

Not sure how early you can test though, sorry. Keeping everything crossed for you xx

Hmmm... think I had better start running again!

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afternoon all and welcome to pollypoo.

shreks, if i were you i would leave it another 5 days and retest then. entirely possible that it is IB.

had scan yesterday and confirmed mc. again.
in double figures now.

shit.

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am really rough actually. hormones are going nuts and have spent past few days crying pretty much constantly. advised to wait a month etc, but told dh that we should try again straight away. had ov'd from good side.

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Lissie, so sorry that your hormones are giving you a rough time after such a sad time of losing yet another pregnancy. . Ironically in some ways the crying might be at least a little better than holding all the sadness inside you. But there is nothing good about this happening to you again. I hope the hormones settle again soon for you.

Shreks - I read your implantation questions but did not answer before as I don't know the answers! It might be implantation bleeding but I am not sure how soon after an initial implantation bleed a positive test would be expected, I guess like most things it is different in all pregnancies. I do know that it takes about 3 days after the levels in the blood start to rise for it to reach sufficient levels in urine tests to become positive. So therefore it would logically be possibly 3 days after the bleed for a sensitive test to show positive, and even then as you know it would not always be positive at that point. So I hope that it will be good, but just trying not to raise your hopes just in case too!

Hi polly - welcome to the gang here.