June/July TTC Thread❤️ CONTINUED

[FarAwayBird]

Starting a new thread because we got to 999 replies!

So many updates I’m struggling to keep up!

@DorsetGirl89 i am so sorry about the blood test result. It’s not fair. I admire your positivity & how you face into the challenges you’ve had

@ChaE05 oh what a relief! Why do medical professionals send us into such a panic!

AF due tomorrow and getting the usual pre period cramps. And a BFN on a test this morning. I knew it would be negative, but I just feel a bit low. 2 years on & im just sick of this now

Oh @Figtree11 I'm so sorry. How have things gone for you with investigations/tests etc if you don't mind me asking? Have you conceived at all in that time? No need to answer if too invasive of course 🙏🏻❤️

Not invasive at all 🙂 I’ve had 3 pregnancies and 3 missed miscarriages. I’m under a recurrent miscarriage clinic who diagnosed pcos, and have a plan in place if I get pregnant again to see if that can sustain a pregnancy. So it’s just a waiting game now, but I don’t ovulate til around cd25 so it’s a long old wait each time. I’m just struggling with imagining how life should have turned out, how I should have a 1 year old by now etc etc. I try bat those thoughts away!

hey everyone! cd 1 today after a suspected anovulatory cycle which is annoying as it was the cycle we dtd the most🤣🤣 fingers crossed back on track next month

Oh goodness yeah I absolutely understand, that's a lot of 'what ifs' to contend with, I'm so sorry, I can imagine that can feel all consuming at times, especially at the end of your cycle when you haven't conceived 😩 What's the plan in place of you get pregnant, is it a progesterone issue or a mix of things?

@DorsetGirl89 thanks, yeah it does feel very all consuming. I think I’m dealing with it better this year than last though. I will be on progesterone next time, but I was last time and it didn’t help. But they think I may have a blood clotting disorder, so I’ll also be on aspirin & daily blood thinning injections throughout 😅 But it’s not a definite I have the disorder so who knows if it will work

Has anyone had a luteal phase longer than 14 days? I got static smiley cycle day 9 on clearblue, suggesting I ovulated around CD9/10 and CM suggested similar. But AF was due Wednesday/Thursday and it hasn't arrived yet and all tests are negative. AF is deffo on the way but I always thought luteal was 14 days long. Still getting to understand my cycles post loss in January time

my luteal phase is 16 days x

Hi all, just a quick update.

My Dr called, thank goodness she didn't need much convincing that despite the neg blood tests Monday and Thursday I was in fact pregnant in between, she agreed that the odds of all the coincidences coming together that 2 cycles in a row I got lines on days 10 & 11DPO only, which were preceded and followed by negatives, within days of starting uncharacteristic spotting is incredibly unlikely that I wasn't pregnant. She agrees the pregnancies are failing straight after implantation. She experienced the same thing several times herself and says it's impossible to know how common it really is because not everyone is testing so early. Based on that she thinks it could still just be chance and doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong, as we can't tell if my progesterone dropped because the pregnancy failed or if my pregnancy failed because the progesterone dropped.

My oncology team has fast tracked me to the fertility team at Southampton, which is a huge relief because even if we don't go the egg freezing route straight away, they could prescribe progesterone for next cycle and just help answer some of the questions maybe. It just feels good to be moving forward with a plan, it helps a lot.

Much love to everyone, and your kind words today have been overwhelmingly kind, I've been very tearful reading them all, and the thought of being any kind of support or inspiration to you lovely ladies is really a privilege, so thank you ❤️🙏🏻 xx

@ChaE05 oh that's great! What a day for you. You'll be wrecked later on from all the emotions. I'm so glad to hear your update.

@FarAwayBird I'm OK, thanks. It seems I've finished my period so I'll be starting on the LH strips soon. My MMC baby would have been due next month and I'm starting to think I would have been on mat leave now, things like that. We also didn't get great news in relation to my Dad's cancer treatment so we're processing that. I really hope I can give him another grandchild soon.

@amey44 I'm sorry you're feeling this way ❤️

@Figtree11 sorry it's BFN. Sending hugs ❤️

@DorsetGirl89 that's great that your GP didn't need any convincing. I would say its incredibly common but we just don't know unless we test early. It's the same with chemicals. I'd say a lot of us have had them but we didn't know cause we didn't test early.
That's fantastic about the fertility team, too. It's so great to have a plan as you say. The lack of control is so hard!

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So the bfp I did last Thursday turned out to be solid. Did a digital on Monday said pregnant 1 to 2 weeks. Had cramping and spotting the whole time. By Tuesday pain and bleeding worse. With all my tests looking the same each day not getting darker I knew something was wrong. I could just tell it didn't feel right. Ended up doing 2x test Wednesday and yesterday BFN both times. Hospital yesterday as pain in left side from previous ectopic was agonising 30mg codeine didn't help, confirmed miscarriage. Had ultrasound and everything looks healthy ovary wise. No cysts. Remaining right tube looks healthy womb looks healthy. Hcg was 2 by time discharge.

Funnily enough wednesday went to doctors about the bleeding. And it was a duty doctor and she down right refused to send me for any sort of blood test for low progesterone even though I gave her all my history and symptoms. Short luteal phase as well as other symptoms. Denied the UK giving progestrone for bleeding during early pregnancy, or just at all... Doesn't make sense.
Denied to acknlowdhe that progestrone helps with thickening of uterus lining and egg Implantation. Stating that even if progestrone is low it rises during pregnancy but couldn't understand the logic of but if its so low during Implantation it still might not rise quick enough.
Basically just fobbed me off. Even with my bleeding cramps and history just said wait for midwife app at 12 weeks.
Even though hospital said because this is second time miscarriage and with ectopic in January all with bleeding from the start of implantation through, next time, I'd have to go for tests if I was bleeding, as soon as bfp, to see if progestrone is low.........
Bad experience there.
But early pregnancy unit was amazing same as last time.
Very deflating x

Hey @DorsetGirl89you've had a really positive day despite the chemical pregnancy. I'm so pleased your GP has listened. Also...being a woman and having gone through the same thing really helps doesn't it. She will understand. And yes unfortunately these chemicals are so common that most of the time women aren't aware of it. It just so happens your symptoms were so strong and you're clearly so in tune with your body. I'm the same, certain symptoms I have when I've been early stages pregnancy. I think I would rather not know!! I'm no doctor but it's probably more than likely just a chromosomal issue than a progesterone one.
You have a great plan in place now and I have everything crossed for you. Your oncology team sound great xx

Hi everyone, this thread moves quick. @ChaE05 I am so glad you got clarity on that result. What a day for you!

@Kerrylf when I got the mirena coil out I had some cycles with a 16 day luteal phase. I think stress can also impact it. I would not worry too much if this is a once off for you but also good to keep a record. Also not out til AF shows!

@SureLook I am sorry to read about your dad. Sending you strength. We recently went through same with my dad. He had to have his lung partially removed but is doing ok for now.

I have not really paid much attention to my cycle for days. I guess I am 3 dpo. I would be surprised if anything sticks as we only d2d twice in my fertile period. My little dog took ill on Sunday. He ended up being referred for an mri and we had him at the animal hospital yesterday. Turns out the poor mite had a stroke. I've barely slept all week and slept on the floor downstairs with him as he can't climb the stairs. He's showing some improvement now and is being trialled on high dose steroids. So given the stress of this week, I would say chances of anything sticking are quite low.

@Kerrylfi think a luteal phase can vary from about 10-17days. I'm on the shorter side of 11 x

I am sorry and also very pissed off on your behalf to read about your experience with the doctor @YKM2829 If you have the energy, I would lodge a complaint. I am glad that your EPU experience was much better though. It's really hit and miss with doctors. I think @DorsetGirl89 experience & @ChaE05 comment hit the nail on the head: it helps to have a female doctor who has also went through it herself.

@Figtree11I'm so sorry you're feeling low. The emotions during our cycle are wild. Starting of with such positivity and hope at the start and then everything just seems to come crashing down as soon as we get those negative tests and AF shows her ugly face. Have you had any sorts of tests ? I know you said you have PCOS. So I guess you've probably had bloods and semen checked etc. How old are you again? Sending hugs xx

@YKM2829I'm so sorry 💔 it's hard enough having a miscarriage without feeling supported and listened to. Nothing ever seems consistent? And you shouldn't feel like you are having to beg for something so simple. I read of so many women being given progesterone but why does it seem to hard to get? Stick with the EPU for now. I don't like to slate GPs but it really does depend on who you get x

She was female. However family member has had her before, she has previously has a spinal tumour and this same doctor refused to look at a recent lump on her spine. Turned out to be a benign cyxst thing but at least relive the anxiety.
I am definitely making a complaint 100% and will have to go an have a 3rd appointment with someone else again to try and get someone to listen.

I told her I felt the best on the progestrone only mini pill and that since I had my copper coil for 5 years after i had Dd, its possible the copper depleted me of my progestrone stores. And that tracks with also having a short luteulphase too. And I have other symptoms of at least some sort of hormone imbalance. But I have pmdd as well which has been linked to progestrone issue as well. So like. It all tracks. I'm half in mind if no one will listen to just go on the mini pill and build up progestrone stores. I conceived my daughter the first month coming off it. Probably won't actually work but that's how frustrating it is sometimes.
And I know my issue is no where near as bad as others. And I can speak up for myself and tell the doctor I disagree and they're wrong. But I feel bad for those who feel unable to.
The doctors don't care anymore half of them. Not even just to listen and offer and sympathetic tone of voice.

@YKM2829 I'm so sorry to hear all that. I would make a complaint about that doctor. How rude and unprofessional. I'm glad that the EPU were better. Can they do anything for you next time in relation to the progesterone?

@ForGiddyDreamer thank for the kind words. I hope your Dad is doing OK ❤️
TTC is so much harder when you've got other things going on. You're so good sleeping with your doggo. I'd say that gave him great comfort.

Hi you lovely lot. I’m 8dpo, big fat neg on frer. Maybe a glint on one step. Sore boobs, very dull backache and out of breath a lot but taking it as I’m probably out this month!

@LovelyMuddles hello! At 8dpo you're very early so you still have time 🤞🏻🤞🏻

Hey, I have a short luteal phase too. Used to be 11 but had a loss with a D&C last year and ended up going on the pill because we had a relative pass away and I just felt TTC was too much and needed some time to heal. It’s gone from 11 to 8, 9 (chem month) or 10 some months. I’ve been off the pill since Oct.

It’s 8 when I don’t take any supplements. It’s 9 when I take a multivitamin and B6 and it’s 10 when I add in high strength vit c to that combo. Just wanted to share in case that helps anyone.

It can feel like a long road. I was worried about joining a group because I’ve not had a straightforward TTC path, but sadly posters in this group have had a tough time too :( at least we can be there for each other and support! Thinking of you girls ❤️

@Another5am my LP was short after my D&C in January. I've just finished my period after my next loss and I'm gonna start tracking OV with LH strips. It'll be interesting to see how it is now as I went down the medication route this time. Thanks for sharing about your supplements x

@SureLook sorry to hear about your D&C and losses, it’s just so much to go through. It’ll all work out though ❤️ this month I’ve added baby aspirin because it helps with blood flow and my bleeds have been so dark, the blood looks really old most of my cycle now, so thought I’d give it a go! It’s a bit controversial though I’ve heard.

@Another5am thanks, same to you. I'm taking a supplement at the moment to help with hormones post loss. It's only for the month, it was recommended by a friend. I've been pregnant twice in the last seven months so I wanted to try and help with the hormone rollercoaster. It's hard to know if they're doing anything but at least I'm doing something!