Month 14 ttc, anyone else

[Ladyinpink1]

Hello, I have been ttc since September 2022, fell preg twice the first year, but neither worked out, now on month 14 ttc since then.
Have tried all dif supplements and different ways ttc and tracking/not tracking.
Just wondered was anyone else in the sane boat or been in the same boat and have a success story? 🙂

I went weekly, and continued weekly for the 1st trimester, then every 2-3 weeks after that until birth, which happened prematurely. I was really a sceptic at best but i had heard so many positive stories that i thought it worth a try. Of course, I'll never know if thats why I fell pregnant but it can't hurt. I wish you all the luck.

Thanks for your kind words and I'm sorry to hear you've seen the effect stress can have on cycles! Hopefully better now 😊 x

10dpo! Just the usual cramps I get on and off every month and feeling a bit blue so fairly sure Aunt Flo will be making her appearance in a few days! I finally checked my progesterone this month and it confirmed ovulation at least, which is good. I'll be heading to a fertility clinic in December to find out what things can be tried as an alternative to IVF if any! I hope the next few days pass really quickly for you! 😊

Ahh excellent, glad you have a referral for immunology for Dr Shehats. I was thinking that you hadnt had immune checked yet. It may be that you have antibodies that kick in around that time. I know the NHS waiting is pretty bad. I hope you get to see Dr Shehata reasonably soon and that he finds a treatable issue for you. I did read somewhere that the NHS waiting list for him was around a year. Crossing everything for. I think there are always going to be some losses caused by genetics but going down the immunology route will be new and may well give results.

@secondtimelucky87 Sorry you are feeling out this cycle. Will you wait for AF or test? That's good to have a plan coming up, hoping that makes things feel a little easier for now.
I hope so too, I find every tww so long.
Although I am fully tracking now with bbt and opks again and it definitely makes things worse, I started ashgawanda last cycle and it has moved ovulation by 2-3 days both this cycle and last so I feel like I need to track atm to ensure we dtd on the right days... can't win 🤷🏼‍♀️ x

Unfortunately as we do home artificial insemination we don't have the option to go down the relaxed route. In some ways it's good because it prevents sex becoming a transaction 🙈 but in other ways it's annoying because we can't just "see what happens" as for us the answer is obviously nothing.

Yeah I'm fully in the OPK/BBT life. My temps are still above the coverline, if slightly dropping now. I'm basing on nothing really. I guess I sort of don't feel any different than usual? I was so shocked when I finally got pregnant after 3 years the first time - I feel like deep down I find the possibility of it happening again slightly hard. Which is silly as it definitely doesn't help. 🙈 Yeah I feel super positive about having some next steps coming up. Just really want to know if there's a chance of it happening naturally again. I'll have to look up the ashwaganda. What does that help with? I'm on Proceive Max (absolutely rank - have to choke it down with orange juice 🤣), two Omega 3s and extra iron. How's your chart looking? 😊

Of course you are,and I totally knew that from before, sorry. It's hard to remember sometimes the details when having multiple chats, but I should of remembered. That makes things difficult in a different level.
I get what you mean, dtd is definitely like that when ttc because you are doing it for a reason. Where are you in your cycle now? x

@secondtimelucky87 is the blue line bbt? Yours line looks really high and steady, when did you say AF was due?
Yes I know what you mean, I feel the same like it couldn't possibly happen but at the same time I am filled with hope, too many emotions. 🤯.
The ashwaganda is my husbands, but apparently it can balance hormones and reduce stress so I thought why not. Lol. My chart is looking ok, 3 days of rise so definitely ovulated. Will attach mine too x

Have you had prophylactic treatment for endometritis? I had a 14 day course of doxycycline in September as a ‘just in case this is the reason’ treatment as we can’t find any other problems . It can affect implantation

That sounds really good about the ashwaganda! Reducing stress definitely played a key part in me conceiving after so long I think. Yeah the blue line is BBT on the chart. I think AF should come tomorrow or friday. What about you? For ages I had a 9-10 day luteal phase but since I started on the Proceive Max (🤢) it's extended to 12. I definitely ovulated too this cycle as finally checked my progesterone and it was over 50 at 7dpo. I suspect our issues are mostly with our MFI so just want December to hurry up for clinic visit! X

@Threepointfive I've had explorative surgery, no signs of endometriosis so it's not that 🫠 although never heard of anyone having a "just in case" treatment for endo, that is really interesting!

@Ladyinpink1 ah don't worry about it, so many conversations on the go here 😅 I'm day 7, so ovulation testing begins again in a couple of days. How about you?x

its different to endometriosis what my dr treated me prophylactically for was endometritis which is infection of the lining so affects implantation . I’m 5 dpo so maybe it’ll be the thing that works but after this long I’m assuming I’ll get another bfn next week (although having a bit more hope than usual is nice)

What does mfi mean @secondtimelucky87 ? That's great that it was effective enough to change your LP, even if it is yuk lol.
Mine is 13 days, so I will be due my period on 10th November. How is your temp today? I hope you haven't had a dip. Yes not sure how effective it is but it def does something as my ov day moved from cd12 to cd14, not sure if that's good or bad but we will see. x

You are at the lovely part of the cycle where it's a bit more chill @moosey89 🙂 I am 4dpo so trying to be chill about everything. Trying being the operative word lol. You started a new job recently didnt you @moosey89 , one with lovely exotic travel.. how is it going? Please tell me I got that right 😂 x

Ah sorry I misread, the words are so similar! I don't have any lining issues, had so many scans etc to check, the last loss was definitely genetic as we had it tested, so we're waiting on genetic blood tests for myself and my partner currently. Because all 3 of my miscarriages were missed miscarriages of a similar nature, the EPU thinks they have all had genetic causes. If the bloods come back normal, this means we've just been super unlucky unfortunately.

AF came for me sadly. I sort of knew when I woke up this morning and temp was 36.62! 12 day luteal phase again.

MFI = male factor infertility. Last two semen analyses both showed some issues, though last one was slightly better. We were about to book a third one and then go to a fertility clinic but then my husband got ill and had a fever so we were advised to wait 3 months. Not that long in the grand scheme of things until December. Just really want to know what our options are. I'm hoping there'll be other things we can try ahead if IVF as we've conceived naturally once (even though it took forever).

How are you doing today? Any symptoms? Wishing you lots of luck for this cycle! 😊 x

How's everyone doing? No idea what dpo I am, guessing around 7 and AF expected around 9th Nov. I've researched the cycle so much that I'm guessing I'm nearing the progesterone peak as I'm getting cramps. I definitely find this stage the hardest! I've figured out that I get nausea, hot flushes and lovely facial/back spots (love that for me still at 35🤣) at this stage which doesn't help with the symptom spotting 🤔

@secondtimelucky87 oh no, I'm so sorry your period arrived, it's so tough. Hoping you are doing ok ❤️
Ahh OK, that makes sense. I hope the results come back with good news abd that they can give something to increase the sperm even more for you... if it doesn't happen before then that is.
I have a cold atm which is completely stopping me from symptom spotting as I'm full of cold symptoms ... and the odd windy pain from all the vitamin c ha ha. Very attractive but it's nice not to be able to symptom spot x

@Fairy0708 we are very similar timings, I am 6dpo and my period is due on the 10th. Anoying that you get those symptoms each month, I'm sure it has your head turned, I also still get pimples, and i'm 36, not sure what age you grow out of it at lol.
It's so unfair that premenstrual and early pregnancy are so similar isn't it. Do you plan on testing or waiting? x

Ahhh I'm OK thank you. Honestly it's been such a long time anyway and I found out yesterday that over the age of 30 it's like a 20% chance every month so that helps to put things into perspective. I think at least some of it is down to luck! I know we should probably be trying more but never have energy outside fertile window. I'm too tired. 🤣 Yeah I'm sure the appointment will be helpful. Just counting down the days now as need some answers. Sorry to hear you're unwell! I had that a few weeks ago. Definitely loads of bugs doing the rounds atm. Hope you're better soon! X

It’s hard isn’t to not be able to find an answer I keep ticking things off the list of what it could be and now there’s not really anything left !

@secondtimelucky87 It's still tough for you even if it's been a long time, i hope the time flies in for the appointment.
I know what you mean, working up the energy is tough alot of the time.
I had done some research and higher levels of zinc and vitamin e are meant to be good for sperm. So dh has been taking extra the past month or two (and by him taking, I mean I have been popping extra into our pill mills with all the other vitamins we take lol)

If you do find anything else from your appointment that can increase sperm count etc please let us know. x

Haha I get what you mean about all the pill popping. I feel like I'm rattling these days! 🤣

Yeah of course I'd be more than happy to share! It's not until mid December but I'll update once we know. We're checking for DNA fragmentation this time as apparently that's a big thing!

Hope you're doing OK!

How are you doing @secondtimelucky87 I ended up early at the start of the week even though I said I definitely wasn't going to test. So waiting on af properly starting tonight/tomorrow.

I was filling our pill mills tonight and thought I would look up some of the vitamins, one thing I have been giving dh is a high dose iodine (through kelp) and it said it is really bad for sperm 🫣 and causes infertility in men, I'm not saying that this is 100% the cause but I feel like an idiot for giving him it, I assumed it would be helpful. Anyways, stopping it from now on and hope any effects wear off soon.

How are you getting on? Where are you in your cycle now? x

Morning! Aww I hope AF hurries up and comes soon so you can start a new cycle if you've tested negative.

That's interesting about the kelp! I never would've thought that! Mine is on Wellman conception, Lycopene, Calcium, Magnesium, Zinc, Vitamin D and two Omega 3s. Poor guy is rattling like me. 🤣 Yeah I'm sure the effects will wear off soon. 😊

I'm on CD11 now. Had (TMI) lots of EWCM yesterday so started BDing. Now I've woken up to this super dark OPK this morning and premom has already put it as my peak but I almost always ovulate on day 14. I never know what to do: hit the next 3 days after positive test or just keep going every other day until I get a negative test. 4 days in a row worked the first time around but I don't if we had the sperm issues back then and it's meant to be better to let sperm regenerate a bit. Will see how tired we get I guess and obviously test LH later. Do you have a strategy for next cycle? X

@secondtimelucky87 Yes it arrived Sunday night! Yay, so I am on cd3 now. Have cut both our vitamins down for this cycle just to the essentials to see how things go. Really don't know what to do this cycle... maybe need to spend a few more hours of my life Googling lol

Woohoo for the ewcm, I know what you mean about dtd. I get in such a dilemma every fertile time, do we do it more ofter and have more sperm or less so it's more concentrated and then what if we start dtd too early abd then the peak is later and we're too worn out by then. Aww it's awful all the thoughts and anxieties. What did you decide in the end? Great your opk is so dark x