Anybody else ovulate late and get a bfp? And opk questions..

[Khanny]

Hi. I have used easy at home opks for ages now and have noticed that I never get a positive line. However I always stop them once I get passed around CD20 thinking I don't ovulate.

Last month I decided to spend a little more on the CB advanced tests to see if I can catch ovulation that way. I opened the pack on CD20 which is when they were delivered and got a blank circle (which is normal from what I have read), then the following day in the evening of CD21 I got a static smiley. I only took it in the evening as that is the time I have always noticed I get a darker line on the opks.

Fast forward a week and a full week of right hand side ovary pain I decided to take an easy at home opk yesterday at 6:30pm which was dark and my app gave me a positive, changed my peak to today and moved my ovulation day on to what will be CD29.

I am so confused right now. I'm wondering if I should try opks for a full month to see if I ovulate much later than I thought I did and we have been missing it every month.

Anybody else ovulate late and been successful in a bfp and how late did you ovulate?

[falsepositivenervous]

I would recommend also temping, as it is also a way to confirm if you've ovulated. I would also do the OPKs for a month straight if I were you just so I had a bit of baseline info. Are you getting EWCM at all/when are you getting it?

[bunnyx]

How long do your cycles tend to be? X

[Daisydreaming1]

How long are your cycles? I used to ovulate on cd21 and managed to ovulate regularly on cd15 with acupuncture.how long is your luteal phase? Temping might give you a better insight too

[Cindy1802]

Yes you need to keep testing if you want to understand when you ovulate. I ovulate on circa CD21 and wouldn't have had a clue if I didn't keep testing - I was losing hope after day 16/17 as that is later than the average.

But sure enough, CD20-22 is normal for me, and I have conceived 3 babies using OPKs.

[Khanny]

@falsepositivenervous

I would recommend also temping, as it is also a way to confirm if you've ovulated. I would also do the OPKs for a month straight if I were you just so I had a bit of baseline info. Are you getting EWCM at all/when are you getting it?

Hi, thank you. I have been temping for months now but I am not getting a confirmation. I am a really poor sleeper and wake every 3ish hours so not sure temping works for me, either that or I just don't ovulate. I do need to test every day from the end of my cycle to the start of my next to see what happens I think. I don't really get much ewcm but I do hit a point in my cycle (around CD 18-23ish) where I get watery ewcm and sometimes I can only tell it is there if I feel around my cervix for it.

[Khanny]

@bunnyx

How long do your cycles tend to be? X

Lately they are long, like 40+ days so I wouldn't be surprised if I have been missing my peaks and just presuming I am anovulatory x

[Khanny]

@Daisydreaming1

How long are your cycles? I used to ovulate on cd21 and managed to ovulate regularly on cd15 with acupuncture.how long is your luteal phase? Temping might give you a better insight too

My cycles are 40+ days lately and I have been presuming I am anovulatory, so because I have been stopping the opks around CD20 I don't know how long my luteal phase is. Temping isn't confirming anything for me but I wake up quite a few times in the night - at least every 3 hours x

[Khanny]

@Cindy1802

Yes you need to keep testing if you want to understand when you ovulate. I ovulate on circa CD21 and wouldn't have had a clue if I didn't keep testing - I was losing hope after day 16/17 as that is later than the average.

But sure enough, CD20-22 is normal for me, and I have conceived 3 babies using OPKs.

Thank you, I am going to do another opk today when I get home from work so will be a similar time and am hoping to see another positive. I am also going to keep them and stick them down in a notebook so I can see the changes and see if my body is gearing up to ovulate but failing and then attempting again x

[Cindy1802]

If your cycles are 40 days, you could be ovulating as late at CD30. I tend to have 10day luteal phases which is on the short side, but absolutely fine.

[Cindy1802]

Also, I don't temp as im also a rubbish sleeper. I have always used clearblue when trying to learn about my cycle - albeit they are expensive, but I know they work for me, and only had to use them a few times to get a good understanding of my cycle - you don't need to use them forever.

Also, if your cycles are that long, you don't need to start tracking from the very start of your cycle (you'd be using a lot of tests!) For a 30-32 day cycle I normally start testing around CD 11. If you use clearblue, the instructions will tell you when to start testing based on your cycle length.

[Khanny]

@Cindy1802

If your cycles are 40 days, you could be ovulating as late at CD30. I tend to have 10day luteal phases which is on the short side, but absolutely fine.

Thank you, I am definitely going to use opks daily and not stop so that I can see what happens throughout the month....its a mind field is ttc and working out your body x

[Khanny]

@Cindy1802

Also, I don't temp as im also a rubbish sleeper. I have always used clearblue when trying to learn about my cycle - albeit they are expensive, but I know they work for me, and only had to use them a few times to get a good understanding of my cycle - you don't need to use them forever.

Also, if your cycles are that long, you don't need to start tracking from the very start of your cycle (you'd be using a lot of tests!) For a 30-32 day cycle I normally start testing around CD 11. If you use clearblue, the instructions will tell you when to start testing based on your cycle length.

Thanks for the advice😀I am not getting along with temping at all but feel I need to do it as I have paid for the natural cycles app and don't want to waste the money as I am already forking out for opks every month! This is the first month I have also used CB ovulation kits and am not seeing a pattern with them yet either so if I am not successful this month then from my next cycle I can start a fresh and just test everyday from around CD10/11 and hope to catch it x

[TheSweetestHalleluja]

Yes, I ovulated on day 26 and got my bfp two weeks later!

[Khanny]

@TheSweetestHalleluja

Yes, I ovulated on day 26 and got my bfp two weeks later!

Ahh thank you! You give me hope☺️ I need the temps to confirm I have actually ovulated and not just attempted twice in a month and failed. The opk was slightly lighter this evening x

[SnookyPook]

@Khanny if I had a 40 day cycle I'd be expecting to ovulate around cd26 as my luteal phase is always 14 days. So you absolutely could have been missing it. I would do as the others have said and keep testing throughout the month to get a better idea. As far as conceiving, ovulation later shouldn't affect that at all, as long as you DTD in your fertile window. Good luck! 😊

[Khanny]

@SnookyPook

@Khanny if I had a 40 day cycle I'd be expecting to ovulate around cd26 as my luteal phase is always 14 days. So you absolutely could have been missing it. I would do as the others have said and keep testing throughout the month to get a better idea. As far as conceiving, ovulation later shouldn't affect that at all, as long as you DTD in your fertile window. Good luck! 😊

@SnookyPook Thank you! I had a lighter OPK yesterday evening but am still getting the ovulation type pains on my right hand side ovary area and have been for over a week now. Just going to keep testing at 6pm-ish every day and see what they show😊Fingers crossed and praying we are successful and blessed very soon x

[Khanny]

Updating - I had a confirmed ovulation on my natural cycles app on cd29 but we only managed to dtd cd25/26/27 and then cd31. Not feeling hopeful as I think we'll have missed the moment. CD32 today and am having what I can only describe as mild shooting pains down my right ovary side and above pubic bone - I know its too early for anything to be happening but I am intrigued to know what it is!

[Cindy1802]

I would say you are in with a chance - healthy sperm can live inside you for 5 days.

I'm not sure how natural cycles work as I tend to use CB - but when you say confirmed ovulation, do you actually mean confirmed ovulation or confirmed fertile peak? I ovulated about 30 hours after I tested positive for my peak. I know this because I get extreme and painful bloating when I ovulate. I'm wondering if what you are feeling now is ovulation pain but it seems very late if you got your peak a few days ago... otherwise I'm not sure what the pain could be.

[Khanny]

@Cindy1802

I would say you are in with a chance - healthy sperm can live inside you for 5 days.

I'm not sure how natural cycles work as I tend to use CB - but when you say confirmed ovulation, do you actually mean confirmed ovulation or confirmed fertile peak? I ovulated about 30 hours after I tested positive for my peak. I know this because I get extreme and painful bloating when I ovulate. I'm wondering if what you are feeling now is ovulation pain but it seems very late if you got your peak a few days ago... otherwise I'm not sure what the pain could be.

Hi @Cindy1802, natural cycles is the fertility app that I use. I got my peak on an easy at home strip on cd27 and then ovulation was confirmed in the app from my bbt as cd29. Fingers crossed and praying for some positive news x

[Hankthehonk]

Good luck @Khanny - I know you're using natural cycles but you might also want to use premom to log the images of your opks. You take a photo and it detects the level then stores and charts them. I use the free version.
I've had a long weird cycle this month but just kept testing and caught lh peak on cd39.
I'm also someone who wakes in the night so I'm struggling with temping, it's frustrating because I know bbt is really important. I keep doing it when I wake anyway eg I just woke at 3.30am and I recently read on another thread here about a bbt adjustment calculator if your wake at a very different time than usual. It just adjusted my 3.30am reading from 36.38 to 36.71.
I'm trying to gauge the pattern of my bbts rather than getting caught up on specific numbers as I don't really trust my data.
Hoping you get your bfp this month!

[Khanny]

@Hankthehonk

Good luck @Khanny - I know you're using natural cycles but you might also want to use premom to log the images of your opks. You take a photo and it detects the level then stores and charts them. I use the free version.
I've had a long weird cycle this month but just kept testing and caught lh peak on cd39.
I'm also someone who wakes in the night so I'm struggling with temping, it's frustrating because I know bbt is really important. I keep doing it when I wake anyway eg I just woke at 3.30am and I recently read on another thread here about a bbt adjustment calculator if your wake at a very different time than usual. It just adjusted my 3.30am reading from 36.38 to 36.71.
I'm trying to gauge the pattern of my bbts rather than getting caught up on specific numbers as I don't really trust my data.
Hoping you get your bfp this month!

Hi @Hankthehonk thank you for your message. I still have the premom app on my phone as I used to use it before I paid for natural cycles! I have been sticking my opks into a paperbook so that I can see them all together but I might start using the app again to get the number/ratio against the line and I can see when the app gives me a peak.

I don't have a good feeling about this month already, the app has moved on my ovulation day based on bbt to CD30 now and my temp dipped to below the cover line this morning, but tbh I'm really not convinced my temps are right just because I never seem to get a full 3-4 hours sleep. Is the bbt adjustment calculator a different app or is it part of the premom?

[Hankthehonk]

@Khanny
The calculator I found just by googling, it's a different site. Here's the link (not sure if MN will let me post this but I'll try - it's on mymonthlycycles https://www.mymonthlycycles.com/bbtadjust.jsp)

I feel exactly the same, unconvinced by my temps. I've been temping for 2 months now and literally just got my coverline today which feels like an achievement! I also have a samsung watch that tracks my wrist temperature at night but currently it's saying my temps are going down while they're going up with my oral thermometer readings. No idea what that's about, I have read that the wrist temp can be more impacted by room temp etc and we've got had a fan on the last two nights so maybe that's affecting it....argh it's so much to think about.

I've just ordered Proov progesterone tests so that I can take one of those to check if I've ovulated as well, since BBT is proving tricky for me.

[Khanny]

@Hankthehonk

@Khanny
The calculator I found just by googling, it's a different site. Here's the link (not sure if MN will let me post this but I'll try - it's on mymonthlycycles https://www.mymonthlycycles.com/bbtadjust.jsp)

I feel exactly the same, unconvinced by my temps. I've been temping for 2 months now and literally just got my coverline today which feels like an achievement! I also have a samsung watch that tracks my wrist temperature at night but currently it's saying my temps are going down while they're going up with my oral thermometer readings. No idea what that's about, I have read that the wrist temp can be more impacted by room temp etc and we've got had a fan on the last two nights so maybe that's affecting it....argh it's so much to think about.

I've just ordered Proov progesterone tests so that I can take one of those to check if I've ovulated as well, since BBT is proving tricky for me.

@Hankthehonk Thank you, I'll have a look at that.

I was temping vaginally up until last month which I think I prefer as I have allergies so sleep with my mouth open at times too which will effect bbt and my mouth bbt is much lower than vaginal. Its always below 36 degrees which is low anyway. I'm switching back to vaginal for my next cycle! And I have clear blue advanced ovulation sticks to use once I start to see a darker line on the easy at home opks. Time is running out for me so I am becoming obsessed...i wake up thinking about it, i am constantly googling success stories and have taken so many fertility vitamins (that haven't worked apart from mucking up my cycles).

I just keep praying we get to be blessed with a child x

[Hankthehonk]

@Khanny I understand the obsession, it has been the same for me since I had a miscarriage in March. Being pregnant for 8 weeks made my desire for another child all consuming, and I think I've transferred my emotions about the loss onto obsessing over tracking everything. We are very lucky and grateful to have one daughter already who is almost 3. It took a year to get pregnant with her, but most of that I wasn't having periods or ovulating at all after coming off the pill which was stressful in a different way.

I'm so sorry you feel like time is running out, as I'm sure you've seen there are plenty of success stories of older women having babies (I'm not sure your age) and there's every reason to be optimistic it will happen for you too, I'm sure.

[Khanny]

@Hankthehonk

@Khanny I understand the obsession, it has been the same for me since I had a miscarriage in March. Being pregnant for 8 weeks made my desire for another child all consuming, and I think I've transferred my emotions about the loss onto obsessing over tracking everything. We are very lucky and grateful to have one daughter already who is almost 3. It took a year to get pregnant with her, but most of that I wasn't having periods or ovulating at all after coming off the pill which was stressful in a different way.

I'm so sorry you feel like time is running out, as I'm sure you've seen there are plenty of success stories of older women having babies (I'm not sure your age) and there's every reason to be optimistic it will happen for you too, I'm sure.

@Hankthehonk I'm so sorry to hear of your mc, life is so cruel at times at giving us what we want and taking it away.

I am 42 and we have not not used any contraception for just over 3 years with not even a hint of a line. DH has had semen analysis and I have had bloods and hycosy which were all 'normal' so I convinced myself that I was no longer ovulating but last month I used the CB advanced for the first time and got a static smiley on day CD20 which I think was my body trying to ovulate and failed and then I got the positive easy at home opk on CD27 and a confirmed ovulation on CD30 (it was CD29 until the app moved it). So now I'm wondering if I am just really late at ovulating and we have missed the window month after month.

I already have 2 grown up sons from my previous marriage so we would have to self fund ivf treatment which we don't have the funds for.

Baby dust to you🙏