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Conceiving after miscarriage?

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Kilminchy123 · 17/04/2023 09:19

Hi guys, I’m currently miscarrying (test became progressively worse and have started to bleed) this is my first miscarriage, and just wondering if I need a period before TTC or does the bleed from this miscarriage count as LMP? Sorry probably stupid questions just have been lucky enough not to know before now ☹️

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TheBirdintheCave · 17/04/2023 09:20

It counts at LMP. Sorry for your loss :(

Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 09:22

Hey, it usually depends on circumstances of each person. Sounds like yours is pretty natural and if all comes out on its own you should be fine to continue TTC once your body is back to ovulating. I miscarried at 14 weeks and was pretty much encouraged to TTC again immediately. Some doctors suggest waiting one cycle for dating purposes but mine weren't bothered about that

Kilminchy123 · 17/04/2023 22:03

Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 09:22

Hey, it usually depends on circumstances of each person. Sounds like yours is pretty natural and if all comes out on its own you should be fine to continue TTC once your body is back to ovulating. I miscarried at 14 weeks and was pretty much encouraged to TTC again immediately. Some doctors suggest waiting one cycle for dating purposes but mine weren't bothered about that

When I began bleeding this morning it was just when I wiped (sorry TMI) so I put on a pad and this has remained completely clear, have just had tiny amount of spotting (pinkish) when wiping one or twice, would that be normal for day one? Can it start very light and get worse?

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Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 22:07

@Kilminchy123 yes it can be. I had a bit of blood in my discharge before I found out baby had died. Then I had my scan and they confirmed no heartbeat and baby was measuring 3 weeks behind. On the drive home I started to bleed a little into my pad and when I wiped. About 2 days later I got contraction like cramps, waters broke and lots of blood and clot loss after a few hours stopped completely. Day after that I was given medication from the hospital to help the remove remaining tissue they found on the scan, for about 2 hours after I took the tablets I contracted quite strong and had to change my pad every 30 mins, losing more clots too and then it just went to light bleeding/spotting for about 2 weeks. 36 days after initial bleed my cycles went back to normal

Ella31 · 17/04/2023 22:15

Kilminchy123 · 17/04/2023 09:19

Hi guys, I’m currently miscarrying (test became progressively worse and have started to bleed) this is my first miscarriage, and just wondering if I need a period before TTC or does the bleed from this miscarriage count as LMP? Sorry probably stupid questions just have been lucky enough not to know before now ☹️

I'm so sorry for loss, I've been there twice. Any questions you have feel free to ask.

Kilminchy123 · 17/04/2023 22:21

Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 22:07

@Kilminchy123 yes it can be. I had a bit of blood in my discharge before I found out baby had died. Then I had my scan and they confirmed no heartbeat and baby was measuring 3 weeks behind. On the drive home I started to bleed a little into my pad and when I wiped. About 2 days later I got contraction like cramps, waters broke and lots of blood and clot loss after a few hours stopped completely. Day after that I was given medication from the hospital to help the remove remaining tissue they found on the scan, for about 2 hours after I took the tablets I contracted quite strong and had to change my pad every 30 mins, losing more clots too and then it just went to light bleeding/spotting for about 2 weeks. 36 days after initial bleed my cycles went back to normal

God I’m so sorry 😞 that sounds so horrendous you poor thing 🥺 so unfair,🥺 thanks so much for the response! Had started to convince myself maybe it isn’t a miscarriage which I know it is just a bit of denial ☹️

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Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 22:28

@Kilminchy123 thank you, yeah I wouldn't wish it on anyone it's horrible 😔. Surprisingly the pain was bareable it's the emotional side that's the worst.

How far along are you? For just abit of spotting alone I would say you may not even be miscarrying! But along with the negative tests unfortunately it probably isn't looking good, your HCG must be dropping. I'm really sorry it is so hard but I promise you will eventually pick yourself backup again and I have everything crossed you will have a healthy pregnancy soon 🤞🏻

Kilminchy123 · 17/04/2023 23:03

Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 22:28

@Kilminchy123 thank you, yeah I wouldn't wish it on anyone it's horrible 😔. Surprisingly the pain was bareable it's the emotional side that's the worst.

How far along are you? For just abit of spotting alone I would say you may not even be miscarrying! But along with the negative tests unfortunately it probably isn't looking good, your HCG must be dropping. I'm really sorry it is so hard but I promise you will eventually pick yourself backup again and I have everything crossed you will have a healthy pregnancy soon 🤞🏻

I can only imagine how devastating it was at the stage you were at with perhaps feeling a sense of relief to get past the ‘12 weeks’ 🥺🥺 I’m only 7 weeks which I feel silly for even feeling this upset when I hear of other stories like yours 🥺 yeah my tests started okay/good but then just never got super strong (no due stealers) and then just in the last day or two they have slightly faded . But HCG definitely never rose beyond a certain point. I was fairly sure it wasn’t going great but we do hold out hope. I more or less convinced myself my dates were wrong or I ovulated late and done about 100 tests waiting to see if they got stronger at certain points of the day etc etc 😫 Thank you so much I’m so blessed to have a beautiful 15 month old so again I feel so silly for feeling so sad because I know others are so much worse off!! but we can’t help that disappointment regardless . Hoping everything goes well for you if you are still on your journey!! Xx

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Ttcmumma · 17/04/2023 23:10

No please don't feel silly! I think once you've got that positive test and think there will be a baby at the end of it, it's always going to be devastating. A baby is a baby regardless. Yeah it was hard getting past 12 weeks and thinking all would be fine. I'd had a scan at 10 weeks 2 days baby measured 3 days bigger, was waving at me but then at my NHS 13 week 2 day scan the baby had died at 10 weeks 6 days. So just a day after my private scan in measurements, that was the most shocking part for me. Thinking my private scan had reassured me enough to tell my 4 year old he will have a sibling and then without knowing baby died so quickly.

I get what you mean regarding your 15 month old, I have a nearly 5 year old and know some people have these struggles with no children! But it still hurts regardless. Thank you! Yes I'm 3 months past miscarriage now and still trying. Just got my period for this cycle so here's hoping for next month! Baby dust to you ♥️

firsttimemum1230 · 17/04/2023 23:12

Hi lovely,
in January 2021 I had my first miscarriage. Then in March 2021 I had my second miscarriage and in April 2021 I fell pregnant and that baby is now a 16 month old toddler! All without a period in between my last period was December 2020.

it will feel like a period and behave like one but with bigger clots If I remember rightly. As others have said you should be absolutely fine to try again when you are ready. I didn’t intentionally get pregnant the second time nore the third we just weren’t careful and I did plan on having a break before the third pregnancy but she was already there! It’s a tough road and worrying but so worth it

firsttimemum1230 · 17/04/2023 23:16

I bled with my baby you can bleed it just depends what amount and I’d had to go to the early pregnancy unit for scans and bloods to confirm miscarriages and then my viable is this something available to you at your local hospital

Dani46 · 19/07/2023 20:53

Hi all. I hope this is ok to post in here. I have suffered with a mmc, I had a scan at 7 weeks with a heartbeat heard and everything looking good, then at 9 weeks with no heartbeat or growth. The baby had passed a few days after the first scan. I still haven’t passed naturally which is quite frustrating as it makes me feel even more devastated. I’m 34 soon so we have all ready agreed to try again. I feel so numb and I was really looking forward to a health pregnancy and this was our first.
how long does it take to ovulate after a miscarriage and has anyone ever had to have a d&c or taken the tablet? The only thing which worries me about the tablet is the pessary she mentioned, I just can’t do them.
so sorry if this isn’t the right forum to post this on x

Kilminchy123 · 20/07/2023 00:01

@Dani46 im so so sorry to hear that! That’s so upsetting I really feel for you. I passed very naturally and am unaware of how a d and c works or the tablet but hopefully someone else can help you with that! After I passed I ovulated on CD 21 (I took the first day of bleeding as a new cycle as I didn’t know how else to track) . I didn’t have any luck that month but ovulated on CD 17 next cycle and am now 8+1 pregnant again. Hopefully this is reassuring for you! So sorry again it really is devastating! Xx

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Dani46 · 20/07/2023 00:13

@Kilminchy123 thanks so much for your reply. I’ve been trying to research into which is best but it’s so hard. I was so anxious at first but when I heard the heartbeat I started to relax a little, but doing back and hearing them words sorry it’s gone is awful!
I wish you the best of luck in your pregnancy too. and thanks again ☺️

moosey89 · 20/07/2023 15:46

Hi @Dani46 I'm so sorry for your loss. I just had surgical management for my second missed miscarriage this morning (baby died a week ago c.9 weeks, but was measuring 7 weeks at a scan around 8+5 so didn't grow properly). First one, baby died at 9 weeks and I found out at a scan at 10+4, no signs anything was wrong and had had a healthy scan at 7 weeks too where everything looked good.

I chose surgical management because I felt most in control of what happened (ironic because you're under general anaesthetic!) and I felt it would give me the quickest path to recovery and draws a line under the physical miscarrying process. I've had friends who have had natural miscarriages last weeks (and some who have had them last only a few days), but for me I didn't want to wait and see how long it would take.

Last time I got a negative pregnancy test 3 weeks after surgery, and ovulated later that week (so before 4 weeks were up).

I'm 34 now, and we have also agreed to try again as soon as I am ovulating as I'd really like to have a baby!

If you have any other questions about my surgical experiences I'd be happy to share xx

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 15:58

@moosey89 thank you so so much 💜I have called epu this morning and informed them I want to change and have the surgical management. Was your partner there the whole time while you was in there?

how long after surgery are you required to wait till you can try again also please if you don’t mind me asking?
I hope you heal quickly too, and I hope you get your rainbow baby. It’s such a shit circumstance for us. Especially when you see people not looking after themselves whilst pregnant. (Smoking, drinking) which I have seen a few in the past)
xxx

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 15:58

I’ve been told I still have to wait too, and have another internal scan which I don’t understand as we know that the baby has passed

moosey89 · 20/07/2023 16:07

@Dani46 oh yes - the frustration of others having babies and not taking care of themselves/their pregnancies is so bad!

So my partner was able to sit with me until I went in to surgery - then he left until I was back out of recovery and ready to go home. I had maybe a couple of hours by myself, but the first of those was in the recovery area with all the wonderful nurses around, you'll be taken great care of. They know what surgery you are in for and I've found they take extra care in looking out for you under the circumstances.

The recovery from the surgery is usually really quick - I am home and resting now for 24hrs (just to make sure) and after that it took maybe a week for spotting to go away. I've already only got spotting and no real bleeding, and after the initial cramps (managed with pain relief in recovery so barely felt them as soon as it was given) I am fine with paracetamol now.

The scan thing - they like to do a second scan to check and make sure, as sometimes it has happened that a sonographer has been wrong and they want to avoid that at all costs.

You're not required to wait at all - after the bleeding stops, and you get a negative test you are able to try again. From a dating perspective they prefer if you wait until after 1 period, as it makes it easier for them, but this isn't a medical reason, more an administrative reason! I'd say if you're taking ovulation test so you know when you ovulate, then trying again right away is ok (as you can work back what would have been the first day of a normal cycle, if that makes sense). xx

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 20:59

Thank you so much for all your help!
lastly though, do they provide the tests to make sure it’s negative? Don’t think I want to really go out and purchase more when I know I’m not pregnant If that makes any sense? Xx

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 21:15

@moosey89 I think we might have been in the same feb group? I’ve just realised now. Such a shame we have ended up in the situation. I did delete my account as I didn’t want notifications from the other group I didn’t know how to remove them, so I created another account xx

moosey89 · 20/07/2023 21:55

@Dani46 yes we would have been! Sorry you're in this situation too. Let's hope we don't have to wait long for a better outcome.

Unfortunately they don't provide the test so I'm staying away from buying anything until 2 weeks from now (so taking a test 2 weeks Sunday - everything else in the pregnancy seemed to happen on a Sunday so seemed as good a day as any to do it!)

You can "unwatch thread" by unticking a box right near the bottom of the thread (in case you want to stop any notifications in future) and you can change your email notification preferences in setting so you don't get anything to your inbox - you can just see notifications for watched threads (ones you're contributing to) in the top left when you login.

How are you feeling overall?x

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 22:11

@moosey89 thank you for that! I just didn’t want to receive any more from them so just deleted my account.
overall, I’m doing ok ish. Have bad days where i overthink, and days where I feel numb.
keeping myself busy is the best thing for me, just trying to go on walks and talk more to my partner about it. And focus on the future.
How have you been? Xx

moosey89 · 20/07/2023 22:19

@Dani46 I totally understand all your feelings. I had a first scan that showed slightly slow growth but a really slow heartbeat at 7+4 (sized at 7 weeks) and reading medical studies the rate it was basically was doomed, so I actually grieved then, before living in limbo for 2.5 weeks with a second scan that showed negative growth but a strong heartbeat (still not sure how that happened) immediately after which I started spotting and didn't stop until my next follow up scan 12 days later where it was confirmed baby had died the day after the previous scan. I should have been 10+1, baby was no bigger than 7 weeks.

Because I had the long time to process it, whilst I had a horrible reaction to the news on Monday, by today when I had surgery my feelings had subsided to more general sadness, and a bit of wondering about why I had to go through this twice already, and when will it be my turn.

I'm trying to look forward, be as healthy as I can (just done the most ridiculously healthy Tesco order 😂), get back to the gym and enjoy life whilst the journey continues. At a minimum I've got 2 weeks before I can even check to test negative, and I want to keep living my life. And talking to my partner is important too - my best friend (who was taking to us both independently) persuaded us both to stop being stubborn and really be open with each other and we both felt such a weight lifted for doing that.

The last few weeks I've been so scared of having a natural miscarriage whilst out and about with all the spotting that I've basically been stuck at home, so today is also a huge relief as it feels like I can get some freedom back now xx

P.s. sorry for the essay!

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 22:43

Oh god, don’t apologise! It’s nice to read. Well, not nice but you know what I mean.

whenever I go out anywhere I’m bringing plenty of pads and also have them on all the time just incase. But I’ve had no spotting at all as of yet.
I haven’t even been sure what pads to use, I’ve never had a heavy period thankfully. They’ve always just been normal then light after 3 days.

im hoping at my appointment on Monday, they schedule me in for the d&c so I can just get it over with. I said to my partner plenty of times that’s the most annoying part, I know that I’m no longer pregnant anymore but nothing is happening. I’ve even lost all my symptoms I had. Which wasn’t many but there all gone xx

Dani46 · 20/07/2023 22:46

And the healthy bit I definitely get! I need to be much more healthier than I am now. I actually started eating better and I was a smoker and I completely quit when I found out. Unfortunately I have now gone back to them. I’m stupid and I’ll vape and have the odd cig. (We got married in Mexico in October just gone and vapes are banned so we both ended up back on cigs 😩) xx