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Bus 9 - Donkey Cart departing soon, all aboard with ivf, pcos, endo, sub/unexplained fertility jump on

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Marvellouslymadmum · 25/07/2022 17:38

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Marvellouslymadmum · 19/09/2023 14:00

@Pcosdegallo hi and welcome

@Misty84 we are stuck between properties at the moment which is what's causing the issue! Hopefully will be sorted soon though and we can start getting back on track!

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thislittlebird · 19/09/2023 14:20

@Pcosdegallo welcome aboard!

@Marvellouslymadmum the move sounds good though! We want to move but IVF has put a dampener on all that for a while now lol

@Misty84 I got them back now! 71 progesterone and 667 for HCG! I'm going back on Thursday for the follow up HCG.

Marvellouslymadmum · 19/09/2023 16:32

@thislittlebird we didn't have much choose as the place we were renting was so damp and she wanted to raise the rent by more than £300 a month so we had to go elsewhere!

That hcg result definitely sounds good to me, I know it's supposed to increase but can range in how much it does and at one point it will plateau out but that's about it. Let's hope it carries on the right way for you!

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Misty84 · 19/09/2023 17:48

@thislittlebird thats great to hear, I don’t actually know about good numbers for hcg or progesterone, so didn’t know it was good until you provided more info! Are levels always tested with ivf rounds then?

@Marvellouslymadmum Oh no damp is awful for your health, so it’s good you’re moving although I know it’s a right hassle and expense.

I had the day off today and despite getting 8 hours sleep last night, I had a 2 hour nap mid morning and a 2 hour nap this afternoon. This tiredness is next level!!!

Marvellouslymadmum · 19/09/2023 17:57

@Misty84 yes luckily we are out of the damp place now in somewhere temporary but that's what's sucking up all the money!

I remember being so tired when I was pregnant with my daughter! It usually only lasts for a little over the first trimester though so hopefully you'll be through it soon!

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Lauralozzle · 19/09/2023 17:58

@thislittlebird We’re doing medicated, but if my body decides to do it’s own thing and try to ovulate we’ll move to a natural cycle. I’ve been told there’s about 10% chance of that happening. Given I tried to ovulate whilst on down regulation, I think that might be likely, but we’ll see.

FET meds ordered today. Just have to wait for my period now, which should be about x2 weeks away give or take a day or so.

Lauralozzle · 19/09/2023 18:05

@MoonlightDreamer Welcome to the group! 17 years is such a long time! 😱 good luck with your IVF cycle.

@Pcosdegallo Welcome! Hopefully the pill kick starts your cycle as planned.

CycleGirl20 · 19/09/2023 18:19

Congratulations @thislittlebird! That is high HCG.

thislittlebird · 19/09/2023 18:22

@Marvellouslymadmum oh god, that's not good. Glad you got out. My boss was in a similar situation but managed to get out into a much nicer place, albeit a bit more money per month.

@Misty84 So when I had my chemical, was with Guys at the time, the early pregnancy unit tested it when I started/continued bleeding. Guys did not, they just booked me in for a 7 week scan. Then on reddit I notice literally every American gets it tested and I've seen some of the bigger clinics doing it here, so I don't think it's standard but definitely an option. I requested it when I announced my test result to them because I didn't want to be lulled into a false sense of security by HPT lines again.

Naps are good, can't dislike a double nap. I'm tired today too, I've had symptoms since two days past transfer and everyone says it's the meds but I know it's not, at least not entirely. 5 failed ivf cycles = ZERO symptoms, and two positive test cycles = the same rabid hunger and occasional nausea. Also had sore throat, dry mouth, and the weirdest one, heart palpitations. I was worried the first time and then I read it's a thing some women get where your body is trying to get your blood circulating in early pregnancy. So that's a bit weird! But I will mention this to someone? my consultant? I dunno tbh, not thinking that far ahead. Will hopefully get to Thursday and fingers crossed the HCG is good again, then the next small goal is 5 weeks.

Are you working part time still? I think you were before, but might be misremembering. Speaking of jobs, I have a bit of a dilemma if this continues. I was head-hunted for a role a few weeks ago, doing the same job I do now which is dull and contains way too much admin but it's fine, flexible and a good pension. Anyway, this other job would pay 5k more for the same role, has an even better pension, which is good, but they also said I could request to work fully remote which is very interesting. I've stayed in my job for 5 years now because of the IVF and they pay good maternity pay (5 months full pay, then it gradually reduces) and obviously, if I stay where I am I very much qualify for that. But this other job seems like a potential good opportunity if it is really fully remote. It would mean we would be fairly poor for a year if the pregnancy continued and resulted in a live birth, and it would mean starting a job while pregnant if I got an offer, then telling them I'm pregnant a few months in while on probation and not getting anything but maternity allowance. All of that said, if it really is fully remote it would allow us to move near DH's relatives in Cornwall which would be a huge help and we've wanted to do that for years. I'm typing this out like it will be a dilemma at all lol. No idea we'll get that far, but it's on my mind a lot right now.

@Lauralozzle how do you feel about natural modified vs medicated? I wanted to avoid medicated because I get migraines and was not allowed the pill that contains oestrogen and it bugs me the go-to route is medicated and no one asks if you should be having xyz. I also bought meds today but I forgot my credit card lmao. Had to tell them my husband will come and get it in the morning. Two weeks will fly by!

thislittlebird · 19/09/2023 18:23

CycleGirl20 · 19/09/2023 18:19

Congratulations @thislittlebird! That is high HCG.

Thank you! I have very little knowledge of this stuff, really hope it gets to where it needs to be on Thursday. For my chemical it was very low, so it's nice to see such a big difference.

CycleGirl20 · 19/09/2023 18:30

With my pregnancy after infertility I found these stats really reassuring! How many dpt are you? I've started to wonder if it was the progesterone with my successful pregnancy that helped me.

thislittlebird · 19/09/2023 18:39

@CycleGirl20
I'm only 11dp5dt today, looking at the charts in that link it's saying I'm in the good zones, which is definitely reassuring.

I have wondered a lot about progesterone too. This is my first cycle on extra progesterone (lubion daily instead of every other day, as well as the 2 x cyclogest per day) and my progesterone levels have always been very low naturally, between 10 and 17 from what I can recall. It took a lot of pushing from me for doctors to put the dosages up, when really they should have been higher and monitored from the start with my history. The NHS cycle was particularly poor with this. The other key thing in this cycle for me is steroids. I self-medicated with prednisolone the only other time I got a positive, and then in March I transferred an untested 5AA (no steroids) and had what I think was an immune response, I had a fever as if I was getting sick or fighting something off on 4/5dpt.

Lauralozzle · 19/09/2023 18:46

@thislittlebird I’m okay with medicated, but I haven’t really had any side effects with meds so far (apart from the horrible cramping and period from hell following the norethisterone last cycle).

Two weeks should go pretty quick. We were on holiday last week in Devon, back at work today. We’re mid renovation (slowest Reno ever - we’ve lived here 7 years!) so I’ve got painting to do this weekend. Next Thursday we have a man round to sort out new doors and skirting and on the Friday I have a hen do to attend at a spa, so should be pretty relaxing even though spas aren’t really my thing. So lots to keep me busy which is half of the problem I find.

What meds are you taking? Is it just the progesterone?

CycleGirl20 · 19/09/2023 19:31

@thislittlebird that's an excellent reading! Mine was 220 at 13dpo and I think that was a pretty reasonable reading. Yours is very solid. And as you say, that's a very good indication.

CycleGirl20 · 19/09/2023 19:33

Sorry, 220 on 11dpt!

Marvellouslymadmum · 19/09/2023 19:44

@thislittlebird we are very glad to be out of there it's just all up In the air whilst we are in this temporary place, everything we own in storage etc!

For me the second option of the better job and remote, moving etc. is a much better option for you, you'll be near family that can support you and help look after the lo and you won't regret that. Do update us on Thursday with your hcg results again, I'm so happy for you! Have you considered twins with that hcg? 😂

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thislittlebird · 19/09/2023 20:53

@Lauralozzle I didn't take norethisterone, and I didn't take any oestrogen, so not sure how they'd impact me. But I have zero symptoms on everything else tbh, and the same for my own monthly hormones. No idea why. I did have heavier periods after fresh cycles.

Oh nice, was the weather good? We went to Cornwall the weekend before last while the weather was still decent, we literally drove down there right after the transfer and had post-transfer McDonald's on the motorway lol, not planned, it was just the first services we got to when hungry. Then we went to the beach and I went in the sea the next day, I joked we took the embryo for a day out.

We've lived here 10 years and the bathroom still needs to be done, but IVF stopped all of that for us. Not sure if we'll do it or not now. We might, turnkey properties do give you a selling advantage in the current market.

The spa sounds nice, hopefully it's fun. I have a voucher to use, not sure when to go. Might go to Kew Gardens next week, the weather looks nice again for a few days.

I'm taking a few things. I'm on 10mg prednisolone daily, 1 x 25mg lubion daily, 2 x 400mg cyclogest daily, and 1 x 40mg Arovi daily.

@CycleGirl20 I really do hope so!

@Marvellouslymadmum oh no, how long for?

Yeah I won't lie, it does seem too good to be true. I'll have to see how the process goes and try to ensure it really, really is remote. I will keep you posted, but yeah, I did mention it to my husband tonight to warn him it's not out of the question!

Marvellouslymadmum · 19/09/2023 21:21

@thislittlebird we aren't exactly sure yet, it depends on a number of factors but we are hoping to be all sorted before Christmas! 🤞🏻🤞🏻

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thislittlebird · 20/09/2023 10:56

@Marvellouslymadmum yeah before Christmas would be good!

Marvellouslymadmum · 20/09/2023 11:00

@thislittlebird definitely! I don't even know where my Christmas decorations are 😂😂

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Misty84 · 20/09/2023 12:56

@thislittlebird I think you should take the remote option so you can move to Cornwall- you’ve wanted to move pretty much as long as I’ve known you on these threads! It’s a great opportunity.

Yes I’m working 3 days a week during term time and full time during school holidays. I’m self employed and will get absolutely shite maternity pay- just the statutory rate.

I wasn’t really enjoying the double nap yesterday, it was CRAZY having no energy or strength whatsoever. Actually feel better being at work today.

As for your symptoms: you know your body better than anyone and you have felt a clear difference between your failed transfers and your successful ones.

thislittlebird · 21/09/2023 16:43

@Misty84 I think you're right, just hard to think about getting by on one salary for a year. Now I just need the job process to ask me to interview, but I think they have to advertise it for a few weeks first.

If I get that far, I might be on maternity allowance, not even statutory lol. Not sure if that's worse!

So my second HCG test is back:
19/9 11 dp5dt: 667
21/9 13 dp5dt: 2281

I've asked for another one on Saturday to triple check it's doubling, but this is a good start.

CycleGirl20 · 21/09/2023 18:14

@thislittlebird those are excellent numbers and more than doubling. As @Marvellouslymadmum said, have you thought about how you'd feel if it was twins?

thislittlebird · 21/09/2023 18:45

@CycleGirl20 I think I'd be stressed lol. Looking at betabase, I'm in the fourth most common range for singles and the fourth most common for twins, so that doesn't help. Fingers crossed it's all ok and nothing crazy going on, but I think we'd be a little surprised!

http://www.betabase.info/chart/betaByDay/18/Single

http://www.betabase.info/chart/betaByDay/18/Twins

Scan is in 2 weeks, so I want to get to 5 weeks on Sunday. I might cancel the third beta, not sure what to do. How many did you do @CycleGirl20?

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