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Trouble titties, windy 🌬 bums, & full stockings of old 💦…TTC bus 50

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Minster2012 · 15/11/2021 21:50

When you don’t think about your days as “Monday Tuesday Wednesday” you think of them as “fertile week” or “CD12” we know the feeling.

We’ve tried baby dust (back in early 2020 I think we stopped believing in that!?, we’ve tried chocolate/pizza & sofa sex (remember that? Late 2020, that got a lot of babies!) and now we are onto manifesting, testing, pleading & yet there’s still some unwanted bleeding🤣😂well tough titties we are here to stay til we get those BFPs🤞🏻🙌🏻we just need to rinse out our foofs & get the nurses to wade through our stocking full of old sperm 💦

Whether you are TTC “normally”, IUI/ivf or anything we are a crew that cling together to the bitter end & always ready to help a sister out. We’ve had multiples, some losses so know two lines can be just as terrifying as none, and we’ve got ladies where those two lines are more illusive than a white Christmas 🎅🏻

It costs an embarrassing story for your ticket, doesn’t have to be TTC related as we know laughing when TTC is needed.

If you see mention of Instagram I have a public account where a lot of people are linked too:
Minstermusings, and a few people have created new anonymous accounts to record their TTC journey/life stupidities m/general annoyances on…just don’t mention TTC on a personal account.

Bumps & babies who want to keep track of us from our other buses 👀
@clairey844
@blackcurrantqueen
@lucyrp
@Catherinettc
@Ltay2
@BlondePotter
@Clairey844
@Gem176
@kirky658
@justanothercyster
@2020mission
@Hopeful110
@becarefuloutthere
@crazydoglady123
@Haiyaa
@lexber
@whatwonder
@bez91
@DKDK123
@minster2012
@feliznavidad2
@clolo
@gcat16
@Bea14

Story so far...

We’ve been around since March 2020 but @minster2012 took over in …
June 2020 24 BFPs
July 11 BFPs
August 18 BFPs
Sep 4 BFPs
Oct 7 BFPs
Nov 7 BFPs
Dec 14 BFPs
Jan 2021 7 BFPs
February 8 BFPs
March 5 BFPs
April 5 BFPs
May 4 BFPs
June 5 BFPs
July 1 BFP
Aug 2 BFPs
Sept 5 BFPs
October 3 BFP
November 1 BFP

Still in it for the ride are out sexy passengers:

@Franklydear
@Vil10
@Manifestingbaby
@larrythelizard
@kaylsd
@dmb91
@pennysays
@bundaberg84
@MrsBiddy

Just about hanging on with fingertips
@sausage1990

IVF/IUI/ICSI /clomid passengers as well as TTC on the side!
@somatronic
@manifestingbaby
@Dollybird89
@juno231
@paintfairy
@sunbird24
@InkyPaper

Newly promoted to the bump list;
@Bea14

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Shock123 · 02/12/2021 13:10

Hi again,

This is a good read I have came across let me no what you think because to me it makes complete sense

Be prepared it’s along one best make cuppa first and sit and read it all 😁

Hello everyone I get really annoyed when I read all these articles and comments about 'evaporation lines' on home pregnancy tests, and especially, when such comments or articles are said to be written by so-called 'experts' or 'clinicians', and which seem to leave a large number of women with all sorts of doubts and anxieties about test-results. So I thought I would sit and write a few facts about various similar tests. I am a clinician and I also have much experience using various tests within laboratories or clinical settings. I have also been trained in the medical micro-biology (lab-testing).

The home pregnancy tests are 'assay' tests which rely on specific reactions between chemicals, to produce coloured lines. The 'control' lines of the home pregnancy tests are assayed areas which are designed to react with specific chemicals commonly found in urine, and which, when detected, react with the chemicals in the control-line assays (strips/areas) and turn them a certain colour (pink or blue depending on the test used). However, the 'pregnancy' assay (test -area/strip) is designed to change colour only if it comes into contact with the HCG hormone – the 'pregnancy' hormone. HCG is only produced when an egg has been fertilised. So then, if no conception has occurred, then no HCG will be produced by the body, and therefore, no HCG will ever be found in the urine.

Moving on... sometimes fertilisation occurs and HCG is produced for a while, but for some reason, the body detects that the pregnancy will not be successful (not 'viable') and the fertilised egg ceases to continue to divide and develop. So the pregnancy stops. However, until the pregnancy stops, the woman will still be producing HCG, and may well have some of the other 'usual' symptoms of pregnancy (though some women have absolutely no symptoms for a considerable period of time), and; although the pregnancy may have stopped almost as soon as it began; it may still take a couple weeks or so for all the HCG in the body to be disposed-of via the urinary system. Also, it may still take a couple weeks or so for the 'symptoms of pregnancy' to stop altogether. This process of fertilisation, followed by a very early termination is known as a 'chemical pregnancy', and many women can have these, whereby the woman is sure she is pregnant, but then she later has a period – even though a home pregnancy test might have shown a faint or clear line in the first couple weeks or so – and hence is why some women are left wondering why their period returned.

So for those women whereby, unfortunately, fertilisation has occurred, but the pregnancy was not viable, they were pregnant, but the pregnancy stopped. However, for those women whose egg(s) is fertilised, and for whom the pregnancy continues, then they will continue to produce HCG from the moment of fertilisation, and, those levels of HCG will rise over the coming weeks, and will, at some stage, be readily detectable either by home pregnancy tests, or by blood tests via their local Doctor or Clinic.

So then, back to home pregnancy tests ….. I have already said that the control lines react to molecules found within normal urine, and, when those molecules pass over those control-line areas (control 'assay' areas) then the molecules come into contact with other molecules within the control assay and they bind together. Indeed, they are attracted to each other by a process known as 'chemotaxis'. And on contact, two different molecules form a 'complex' which changes both it's shape and it's colour – hence the coloured control lines you see in the test areas. However, if the right molecules are not present in the urine, then no other molecules can bind to the control molecules – and no colouration will occur – so the test will be 'void' – and another test should be done.

However, in the event of carrying out a test – and the control lines change colour as they should, then the woman or couple is anxiously waiting (if they wish to have a baby that is) for the 'positive' or 'pregnancy' line to change colour too! And here is where we need to get onto the subject of the 'faint' lines and the 'evaporation' lines that people keep talking about. Going back to the test-strip; the 'pregnancy' line contains different molecules to the molecules of the 'control' lines; and the molecules in the pregnancy line/strip (the pregnancy test-assay) will only react – and change colour – in the presence of one other molecule; and that is the HCG hormone. No other molecule or hormone will cause it to change colour.

Changing the subject slightly, if we take a pure white tissue and add one drop of water onto it, the area of the tissue containing the water will now have turned slightly 'grey' – because it's wet. But it wont turn pink or blue. So if we carry out a home pregnancy test and the control lines are pink or blue (depending on the test you use), but the 'pregnancy' strip remains white or slightly grey – even hours after the test – then there has been no HCG detected in the urine, to mix with the pregnancy-strip molecules and to make them change colour (which is what you will be hoping for). So if the strip remains white or slightly grey – no matter how many hours or days after you did the test - then the strip is simply wet from the urine, but it does not contain any HCG. So, either you are not pregnant, or, if your period has stopped, then you may still be pregnant but your HCG is so low that it cannot yet be detected by the test.

However, if you do a test and you get the faintest coloured line in the 'pregnancy' test-strip/assay area on the test, then HCG has definitely been detected. If it's faint, then HCG is present in very low concentration, and if it is a dark coloured line, then the concentration of HCG is higher. But whatever the concentrations, provided you get a colour in he 'pregnancy' area, then you are pregnant at the time of testing.

And now for the famous 'evaporation lines' that so many people – and 'experts' talk about. To start-with, no evaporation line will be coloured (pink or blue etc. depending on the test you used). Only the HCG can combine with the pregnancy-assay molecules and bring about a colour-change. So if the line is coloured – no matter how faint the line is – then HCG made the line change colour – nothing else! However, just like the wet tissue-paper we talked about earlier, if the area is simply wet with urine, the pregnancy strip may possibly turn a little 'grey' – like a 'shadowy' colour; but if there is no pink or blue colour, then no HCG has been detected. However, remember that the area of the test-stick that you 'wee' on is made of a very dense material, and urine will be absorbed by this dense material and will travel along the test-stick by 'passive-diffusion'.

And liquids like to move from an area of their high concentration – to an area of their low concentration, so, because the test-stick is sealed and dry, the urine will travel along it – to it's other end – and may 'drip-out' inside the sealed area of the stick (the bit after the test and control areas that you cannot see). So the urine will keep moving until the end that you 'wee'd' on has no more urine to offer! Then the 'concentration gradient' ceases and the 'diffusion' will stop. And in most cases, test-sticks – especially those with caps on – can stay wet for days! So if you go back to the stick an hour, or two, or three or four hours etc after the test; and the 'pregnancy' strip has changed colour (pink or blue depending on the test etc), then, whilst the urine has spent several hours travelling up the stick from one end to it's other – and 'dripping out at the other end – the urine has been passing over the 'pregnancy' area all the while.

Therefore, even if the HCG levels are virtually undetectable (but present in minute quantities), as the urine travels over the pregnancy-assay, the HCG will still be attracted-to (remember the 'chemotaxis' we talked about earlier) and will bind with the molecules in the pregnancy-assay – hence a positive coloured line showing up to several hours after the test was done. Like I said, no other molecule or hormone will make the pregnancy-assay change colour – except HCG. So, if after an hour, or several hours, you have a coloured line in any way, then HCG has been detected – and HCG can only be found in your urine if an egg has been fertilised.

So let's not have any more if this 'evaporation line' confusion. If it's slightly grey or remains white – however long after the test you look - then no HCG is present. But if it 's coloured – then HCG is present – in whatever concentration – because only HCG can bring about the colouration of pink/blue, depending on the test you are using. And finally, some tests don't dry out for days – sometimes many days (especially those that you put the caps back on) - so the water-content of the urea has not even evaporated – yet people still go on about 'evaporation lines' – which, in my opinion, is nonsense. And for the record, my Wife's test had a coloured line several hours after we did the test – and I knew she was pregnant – despite the articles I read on the internet about evaporation lines.

And indeed, the next tests proved that she was. I am critically aware of the intense emotions involved when people are hoping or trying to become pregnant - and I hate to think of the emotional heartache and anxieties that these mixed or uncertain test-results can cause - hence the reason for taking the time to write this short article. I hope it helps, and feedback - whether positive or otherwise - is always useful. Take care - and lots of baby-dust - to all prospective Mums-n-Dads

Shock123 · 02/12/2021 13:16

@larrythelizard sure am lol not giving in, have a read at me last post see what yas think

Manifestingbaby · 02/12/2021 13:55

@Juno231 😲😲😲 OMG you've actually done the bfp month before ivf thing! I'm so happy for you. That looks good for 10dpo. I understand the detachment thing though. I think when it takes so long it's scary to actually get the bfp and you want to protect yourself. No reason this won't be it for you 😃

This bus has got it's mojo back!

Thanks @Minster2012 🤞🤞🤞 I'm making December chill out month and hoping I'll be the "I relaxed and it happened" cliche 🤪🤦‍♀️

Manifestingbaby · 02/12/2021 13:58

@Shock123 I'll get back to that mammoth post when I've time 😉 but thanks for sharing. Sorry you are back in a new cycle. Sounds like something definitely happened though so hopefully next time will work out for you.

Vil10 · 02/12/2021 14:07

@larrythelizard it definitely feels like a rollercoaster, one that needs to go quicker to the scan🤣

@paintfairy we definitely need to stay away from it, we can do it💪🏽

@Juno231 so so happy for you! Have you told your DH?? Woo to august babies🤣

@kaylsd hahaha, oh if I could I'd send you all a well out of it!! It'll be your time soon🤞🏼 I can imagine that being emotional!! Buttt onwards to the next job lovely x

Well I finally plucked up the courage and rang my gp, they text me a link, apparently it's all a self referral online, just filled in my details etc and it sent it off and said I'd hear from my local midwifery service soon for my booking appointment! Made it all feel very real, rang OH to keep him up to date and he was so interested asking a million questions, I ended up just sending him a link of what it would include🤣 3 weeks today until my first scan and the fear is real!!

Juno231 · 02/12/2021 14:24

@Manifestingbaby I know, how annoying am I! Thank you to all of you @Franklydear @vil10 @becarefuloutthere @kaylsd @bez91 plus all the rest!

@vil10 no I haven't told OH 🤣. He's in the office all day followed by drinks and watching football so he won't be home until 11pm I imagine. I'm hoping a digital might work tomorrow? Ideally I'd show him that but if not then a good old FRER will do!

Got a little box ready with a baby gro saying "Baby surname", a "guess what, you're going to be a dad" card and a book for expecting fathers that's meant to be really good. Just need the pee stick now!

Juno231 · 02/12/2021 14:25

@Vil10 forgot to say - it's very exciting you're being set up for your midwife appointment!

larrythelizard · 02/12/2021 14:29

@Manifestingbaby you just need a fertility clinic appt quite obviously!

becarefuloutthere · 02/12/2021 14:37

@Juno231 sounds like a lovely gift idea, so cute 🥰 so was it two years of ttc in the end?
@Vil10 I laughed my way through the booking appointment as they ask things like "where do you want to give birth" I was like, as if I'll get to that point and here I am in the third trimester now thinking shit, I have to give birth 😱 And ah how sweet is your OH wanting to know all the deets! He'll be proposing next 😏😜

Manifestingbaby · 02/12/2021 14:44

@larrythelizard I'm a long way down that rabbit hole with no luck or hope 😭 was just thinking it yesterday that I got my referral the same week as @lucyrp who now has a 14 week old!

Haiyaa · 02/12/2021 15:15

OMFG!!!!!!! Congratulations @Juno231, it’s a Christmas miracle! So so happy for you! I’m happy when everyone gets their BFP but when it’s an OG it’s just that little bit sweeter! Great line for 10dpo too!

And two BFPs in one day, congratulations to you too @Sunbird24, keeping everything crossed for you that this is the one!

What a great start to December!

larrythelizard · 02/12/2021 15:39

Oh @Manifestingbaby sorry 😩😩😩. It's shit isn't it? No point in meaningless platitudes.

Minster2012 · 02/12/2021 15:50

@kaylsd we'll send you the nov/Dec magic don't worry!

@Shock123 sorry for the new cycle but you've got a plan. I think I've read that before, and it makes sense, & the thing is that when I had my FRERs (the ones that then detected my pregnancy) when I first took out of the box I could see the line where the pregnancy line should be, not when wet. So there def is some possibility for the line to just be showing darker when wet

@Juno231 so sweet! It will be fab for you both 🥰

@Vil10 the fear is always real 😬

@Manifestingbaby what happened with your referral, I thought you had put it on hold at your side? Am I wrong?

So ladies I have a nugget of wisdom for you. Feel free to laugh at my expense...
Last night I once again smothered myself with vicks, using my writing hand as you do, then I (ahem) inserted my progesterone bum bullet. And got a ring of fire 🔥 or ring sting perhaps

So notes to selves. Vicks and pessary insertion should not be mixed. But I smelt nice 😂

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polkadotpixie · 02/12/2021 16:28

Congratulations @Juno231, that's amazing news!

Well the 🧙‍♀️ showed up late yesterday as expected so I've spent a shit load of money on (more) supplements and half my day googling IVF with high FSH/low AMH and now I'm giving myself a shake and cracking on with cycle 6

I'm 37 so I know you can see the GP after 6 months but does anyone know if the clock resets after a MC, like I conceived in cycle 4 so do I go after 1 more cycle or do I need to wait 5 more cycles?

kaylsd · 02/12/2021 17:24

@manifestingbaby I think the bus has got more than mojo it’s been jumpstarted with some kinda super sperm I think 🤣🤣🤣🙈
@vil10 so proud to hear you’ve took the steps to register and I wish you all the luck with your first scan, I’ll look forward to hear how you get on with it 🤞🏻🌈❤️
@juno231 fingers and toes crossed you’ll be putting the box for good purposes, have you told your OH or waiting for progession or anything like that? 🤞🏻
@minster2012 grateful for it being sent my way! Hoping for magical BFP before IVF just like @juno231 girl can hope right? 🤣🤣🤣 absolutely howling at thought of a vicks scented bum, there’s worst smells I guess? Isit like the equivalent when men complain about the mint tree source shower gel on their manhood?
@polkadotpixie unsure on how long to wait but I’d just ask now because the worse they can say is come back in a few month or whatever :)?

Finished my last shift, got a box of Christmas biscuits of a patient and a bottle of Prosecco off another one 🥺 also got lots of goodies from the team including Mac makeup & snow fairy goodies, I was actually surprised as I know how tight they are with other collections I wasn’t expecting much but apparently I was the most ever collected for someone which speaks volumes 🥺🥰 here’s to new beginnings on Monday with my next chapter being a specialist oncology nurse ❤️❤️❤️

Sunbird24 · 02/12/2021 17:26

Yay @Juno231, that’s ace!! This month is getting off to a good start, hopefully it’ll continue!

@Minster2012 🥴

larrythelizard · 02/12/2021 18:07

Menthol poo. Sounds delightful @Minster2012. Not sure if that's better or worse than progesterone on your chest??

@polkadotpixie just ring and ask, what's the worst that can happen, they tell you to come back in a month?

@kaylsd I think you'll be a fab oncology nurse - lovely you got such a good send off from your old job!

@Juno231 lovely announcement for DH, he's having one last night out in blissful ignorance!

Manifestingbaby · 02/12/2021 18:08

@larrythelizard 🥰
@Minster2012 ah nevermind me! Don't want to rain on anyone's parade. I'm just going to keep hanging out with you lucky lot and hope some of it rubs of on me 😃
Could not be happier for you @Juno231 😃 sounds like a fab way yo tell your OH and you have been waiting long enough! 🥳🥳🥳

Hopeful110 · 02/12/2021 18:22

@Juno231 Ohhhh my giddy aunt!!! I just come on to catch up and see YOU have a bfp too!!!! You have me tearing up woman! I'm soooooooooo pleased for you! Another OG finally gets her bfp! Ahhhh I get the disconnect though, but hopefully once you get the digi confirmation you'll be able to believe it! It's a good line for 10dpo though! And like the others say, maybe thats why you've felt so rubbish! Xx

bez91 · 02/12/2021 18:40

@Minster2012 vicks up the rear - oh dear 😂😂 @kaylsd beat me to it but When DH first used Mint Original Source shower gel he came out the shower screaming like a girl 🍆 . He said it tingled for days 😂

@kaylsd oh that's lovely, sounds like they'll miss you! Straight into it on Monday.. best of luck!

Vil10 · 02/12/2021 19:16

@Juno231 ohhh that's such a lovely way of telling OH, he's going to be made up!!

@becarefuloutthere well in my form I had to send off it actually asked for first and second option of where I want to give birth!!! I was like wtf! Your pregnancy has just flown it really has!! Hahaha I think a house and baby is enough for now🤣

@Minster2012 hahahaha ring sting!! That vicks is the devil for going near any hole!!

@polkadotpixie sorry about the witch showing up!!

@kaylsd Thankyou so much lovely, I'll still be firmly here on this bus for when you get your BFP❤️ sounds like work will miss you and how lovely of them to do that!!

OH is on his works do tonight and he's text saying one of the lads has told them all his girlfriend is pregnant, he said he was dying to go "wow me too" but he didn't, he knows how important it is not to say anything I think he's just really excited, he said to me last night "I didn't realise how hard it was to keep it from people, I just wanna tell everyone" melts my heart

InkyPaper · 02/12/2021 19:45

@Juno231!!!! Congratulations that's so exciting! I'm so happy for you!

@kaylsd aww that's so lovely! Sounds like people thought very highly of you 😊

@Minster2012 omg that is definitely a place Vicks should not go!! 🙈

We've had a bit of a thing go on with the clinic which has stopped things dead again and I am just... screaming inside. Apparently the hospital never sent the results of DHs genetic testing to the clinic (despite saying they would) and the clinic are refusing to continue without these results because we may need more tests or something depending on what they are. So we called the GP as apparently us and the GP should have received a letter with the results but no, they didn't get anything. Finally get hold of the hospital who have the results and just... haven't done anything with them? But they refused to send them to us for some reason that I'm still not clear on but did agree to send them to the clinic by post. So everything is paused until the clinic receives them and I am just so done with this week. So very done.

Juno231 · 02/12/2021 19:58

@Minster2012 hahaha noooo. Much like @bez91 and @kaylsd my flat mate's mum once washed her foof with that same mint shower gel and apparently that really stung. Another thing to avoid!

@vil10 your OH is so darn sweet. I doubt mine will be inclined to tell anyone and in fact I suspect will be highly embarrassed when we do!

@kaylsd aw that must be so melancholy leaving them behind! I love the thoughtful gifts you got ♥️

@DKDK123 I forgot to say earlier but you're far too sweet for getting so emotional about my bfp. A few of you have had much stronger reactions than I have sadly! I was at least expecting to shake a bit but nah.

Juno231 · 02/12/2021 20:00

@InkyPaper what the frick?? What kind of shitty incompetence is that?? Is that the results of a DNA frag or something else entirely? Hopefully it'll all go quickly from here onwards

Minster2012 · 02/12/2021 20:07

@polkadotpixie we've all done that, I'd def speak to your GP, you could always not mention the MC? I think it does reset 😬

@kaylsd you will obviously be missed a lot by everyone ❤️but onwards and upwards to your new job 🙌🏻

@Sunbird24 def a great start, if we could do a BFP each day for advent how AMAZING would that be!!?!

Progesterone anywhere outside ain't really good is it @larrythelizard so maybe that's worse?!

@Manifestingbaby I want it for you so bad, it's not raining on anyone's parade 🥰what's the latest with your referral?

Vicks up the rear @bez91 it ain't good😊😬and @blackcurrantqueen also mentioned the mint source thing 🍆. Omg the aubergine emoji has gone from my most used, that's not good for this thread ladies let's get some more 🍆🍆🍆🍆😂

@Vil10 it is hard when you want to shout it from the rooftops!! Just ask my MIL 😂that's so sweet though, I kinda love your OH he sounds so good for you 🥰😊

@InkyPaper wtaf. Gahhhhhh for you honestly. Put a note in your diary to chase next week to see if it arrived. Keep hassling girl

@Juno231 my DH isn't arsed about telling ppl either, he just doesn't get why it's a thing & also feels a bit weird/embarrassed. I guess it's not helped by not believing it too much yet but overall he's just private, I'm the opposite 😂

Stay away from mint original source, also noted!

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