August might be pact might be madness part 2

[claireb707]

Hopefully can get all you in here

Sorry to hear that @whambam89!

AF has arrived for me this morning. I've hit the massive milestone today of 12 months ttc, a place I never thought I'd be at 😩. I think I'm really going to feel it today

@SS123456 Sorry AF has arrived, can only imagine how fed up you must be feeling 😪

@claireb707 how are you getting on?.

Sorry to hear that @whambam89

@SS123456 sorry to hear AF has arrived. I can imagine how gutting it is to get to 12 cycles.

Still a negative OPK for me so no idea what is happening. Clear Blue OPKs have always worked for me before so either I'm going to ovulate really late or I'm not going to ovulate at all. I had what I thought was EWCM this morning too.

@kirinm I think EWCM is your best indicator so get DTD!

Cd36, 18dpo (I think), still no period and my temps have gone back up 🤷‍♀️

Massive hugs to you @SS123456 💙 Let yourself feel angry & sad about it, it’s a shit feeling.

Gutted for your BFN @whambam89! Wtf was that line about yesterday then?

@kirinm I’ve sometimes found I get EWCM then a positive OPK a couple of days later 🤷🏻‍♀️ Think you’ll be best to DTD just to be on the safe side!

@claireb707 how strange! Fingers crossed you'll be getting your BFP soon x

@MrsB2019x no idea! I'm only 11dpo so I know "it's not over until AF shows" bla bla bla but it's a little disheartening! Not had any cramps or anything since Saturday and pretty sure my boobs aren't hurting as much as they were yesterday so I'm 99% sure I'm out.

I'm kind of freaking out a bit. The cause of me being unwell in August was CMV - a common viral infection. I had an antibody test first which showed I already had had it - so the fact I had it again, meant that it had reactivated - it stays in your body forever but is dormant. Apparently the chances of it reactivating are very low and everything I've read suggests it often only reactivates for people with very compromised immune systems. The doctors assumed my immune system had been weakened by being pregnant (even though it ended quickly in a chemical).

As it turns out, CMV is really dangerous in pregnancy. It can cause very serious birth defects if the infection is caught during pregnancy - from what I've read, the risk is much higher with primary infections i.e. you've never had it before.

Obviously I have had it (twice now)! The risk of reactivation is low and the risk of passing it on (if it is reactivated) to the foetus during pregnancy is also much lower. But now I have no idea if it is even safe for us to try again. There is a lot of information about primary infection but I can't find much about the risks when you've had a reactivation. The only thing I've seen about the risks of trying to conceive suggest waiting 6-12 months. But I don't know if that is for a primary infection or not. If that is the case for a reactivation, then our ttc days are done which is devastating.

I can't work out who I should contact for advice and don't know what to do. I don't suppose anyone has any idea?

Sorry for the long post.

@kirinm

I'm kind of freaking out a bit. The cause of me being unwell in August was CMV - a common viral infection. I had an antibody test first which showed I already had had it - so the fact I had it again, meant that it had reactivated - it stays in your body forever but is dormant. Apparently the chances of it reactivating are very low and everything I've read suggests it often only reactivates for people with very compromised immune systems. The doctors assumed my immune system had been weakened by being pregnant (even though it ended quickly in a chemical).

As it turns out, CMV is really dangerous in pregnancy. It can cause very serious birth defects if the infection is caught during pregnancy - from what I've read, the risk is much higher with primary infections i.e. you've never had it before.

Obviously I have had it (twice now)! The risk of reactivation is low and the risk of passing it on (if it is reactivated) to the foetus during pregnancy is also much lower. But now I have no idea if it is even safe for us to try again. There is a lot of information about primary infection but I can't find much about the risks when you've had a reactivation. The only thing I've seen about the risks of trying to conceive suggest waiting 6-12 months. But I don't know if that is for a primary infection or not. If that is the case for a reactivation, then our ttc days are done which is devastating.

I can't work out who I should contact for advice and don't know what to do. I don't suppose anyone has any idea?

Sorry for the long post.

Oh gosh I can see why you are worried. I don't even know what cmv is so cant help much but is it worth contacting your doctor

@claireb707 I'm speaking to my GP this afternoon - I have to have more blood tests to check my liver function, but they are next to useless on most things. I will ask though.

How frightening for you @kirinm, I imagine the GP is the best place to start but can ask them where to signpost you for more detailed information too?

@MrsB2019x

How frightening for you *@kirinm*, I imagine the GP is the best place to start but can ask them where to signpost you for more detailed information too?

Only place to start I think. The internet isn't helpful unless it is a primary infection during pregnancy.

@kirinm hopefully the GP will be able to put your mind at ease 🤞

I've just started spotting so that's me out as suspected... Completely exhausted by it all, feel like just giving up, especially when it seems to happen so easily for everyone else. Think it's hit harder this month considering I should be 37 weeks pregnant by now so my due date will pass and I'll still be very not-pregnant 😪

@whambam89 sorry you're spotting. It is totally shit and I know how you feel about your due date coming up. It is really hard to know that some people are able to get pregnant (and stay pregnant) without any complications and I still struggle with hearing pregnancy announcements. It does feel unfair even though it isn't actually anyone's fault. Can you treat yourself tonight?

I have just spoken to the GP - he didn't know the answer to any questions but has said he will write to someone who will, today. He said a response would probably be received within a week so I will give them a call on Friday and see what they have to say. Assuming I didn't ovulate on CD11 and miss the OPK, I think we will have to avoid ttc this month until we know a bit more about the risks.

@kirinm hopefully you get an answer pretty quickly and it's good news.

Think I'm going to take a step back, stop using OPKs and just TRY to chill about the whole thing. I had never used OPKs until after the ectopic and honestly I feel like it's just adding more stress. Refusing to test anymore until the day AF is due as I'm sick of getting evaps / false positives. Have ordered myself some more TTC vitamins which are an all in one rather than me popping 5 different pills a day and I guess I'll just hope that next month has some better news 😴

Thanks for all of the support ladies ❤️

I have ordered a home sperm test for OH which he is happy to do. Has anyone else done one and have any tips on 'collecting' a sample with such a tiny cup?! 😂. He wants me to help out lol

Nothing to add, but just wanted to offer a huge group hug ❤️

So sorry @whambam89 💙 totally understand how you feel. Might I recommend pizza..? 😂 I am 100% with you on stepping back, I don’t have any more OPK’s in the house and won’t be ordering any more either. I don’t understand how we are supposed to distract our mind from it though, I was thinking of starting a separate thread about it cos I don’t even know where to start. Treat yourself tonight lovely x

@kirinm That sounds quite helpful from your GP, hopefully you get a response soon

@MrsB2019x pizza is an excellent idea 😂 I know that I feel worse right now than I will in a few days because hormones but I'm just finding it so so hard to see a light at the end of the tunnel with it all - I also realise that's very OTT because 4 cycles in the grand scheme of things is nothing, even if you add the 3/4 cycles before the ectopic and the months we weren't allowed to try it's not a lot in comparison to what some people go through. Just going to wallow in self pity for a day or 2 then brush myself off and start again I suppose!

@MrsBtobe2019x I also really don't think it's possible to distract your mind from it when it's something you want so badly!

Probably my body playing tricks on me but I've literally only had a bit of pink when I wiped since 2.30 and just been to the loo again and there's pretty much nothing, just the slightest pink tinge - AF usually starts in full flow for me but like I said, my body is probably playing tricks on me as it's thrown out every other symptom in the last 4 months... Is there any chance at all that this could be implantation do you think?? Clearly just holding on to every bit of hope 😂 I'm 10/11dpo x

When are you due @whambam89?

@Sansa87 I have a short LP usually 10/11 days. I'd say I'm 11dpo today based on what I'm sure were ovulation cramps but if I went off OPKs I'd be 10dpo. So I'd be due today/tomorrow/Wednesday. I'm now putting off going to the loo again as I feel like AF is going to have turned up with a vengeance because I dared have a little hope and then I'll just look stupid hahaha x

You won’t look stupid, we’ve all been there @whambam89 I’m still terrified going to the toilet, & now make sure I wear black underwear 😂

You’re not out until your out. There’s nothing wrong with a little bit of hope ❤️