The 2ww Symptom Spotting continues....

[Bucky2007]

Hey girls as we are about to get thrown out of our thread I have started a new one so we can continue manically looking for EWCM, sore (.)(.)s and orange feet whilst chanting 'in with love, out with BFNs'.

Come on over/in

shrekmissus hi cyclebuddy!! We'll have to do our best to restrain each other - or encourage each other in breaking the resolutions, depending on how we're feeling!! (...OF COURSE we will restrain ourselves)

ClairePO I hope that AF pays a visit, so you have your CD1. I'm sure we could all do with some chocolate - hope it's a big bar/box!

Fairysnuff sometimes i think my nipples could turn purple with pink spots and my DH wouldn't notice!!

07mumstheword CD15? definitely time for legitimate symptom spotting to begin!!

picknmix sorry to hear you have been feeling down today, i can understand your mixed emotions over your trip. Sounds like you are in need of chocolate today too!

Hello to everyone else!!

Hello Ladies!

07MTW Thanks for the understanding I was feeling awful yesterday but its great knowign I'm not the only one about the spotting after sex I would go and see the doc. I bleed sometimes after sex but I have on going issues in that area. Best to get proffesional medical advice.

shreksmissus Sorry AF has shown her ugly face

Bucky Hello! I am hoping that being a physco is a symptom the emotionalness def is. I've moved around loads too so I feel your pain I really do am getting very settled now though.

Fairsnuff Thank you for the happy dust it did the trick Although I did have to sweep the toadstool! but I appreciatate it.

PicknMix sorry to hear about BFN it ain't over till TEW arrives!

madoldbird I want in on the resolutions I am exactly the same we can help each other.

Excitable HI! How are ya cycle buddy? I'm loving the group hug BTW.

ClairePO 18 DPO no AF and no BFP? I think you must just be taking a while to get your BFP because your AF should have arrived a good four days ago if your LH surge made you release an egg. hmmmm... when are you next testing?

and finally...

DIGITALGIRL WHERE ARE YOU? WHATS HAPPENING?

I'm feeling better. Yesterday was a bad day but somehow DP managed to make it all OK. When I got home I refused to talk about my bad mood and he pestered me to tell him but I didn't and I spent the whole day doing nice things for him. It worked well as by the end of the day he had agreed that he should be takling me on his nights out with him and he is paying for me to have my hair done on Friday. He also gave me lots of cuddles and made me feel better.

However I did end up with a stinking cold which I still have, a sty in my right eye and I had the worst migrane last night so today I feel like I've gone ten rounds with Mike Tyson. I am wondering if these are all symptoms, but I did an OPK last night and it was negative.

I have my scan appointment tomorrow its internal to check my ovaries ect so if its ok I'm going to bring you all with me in my handbag. Do you mind?

Glad DH is being so kind and caring pixie sorry you're feeling poorly though

Good luck with the scan. What are they looking for?

I'm not testing again, I'm assuming things are just messing around post m/c and also I've never used those OPK's before so I could have read the results all wrong. Just a waiting game for TEW now.

pixie Glad things are better for you today. And I'd like to go in someones handbag so feel free to take me with you to the scan. Seriously I hope it all goes well.

Hello hello!
Sorry I left without saying goodbye, DH and I just got back from a lovely spa hotel. We left early Sunday morning, so no time to post and then stayed overnight. Had a massage yesterday and a pedicure and facial today. Feel wonderful. It's our three year anniversary tomorrow, can't believe how quickly the time goes!

Anyway, Sunday seemed like a sad day here. I hope everyone's feeling better today (even though it's Monday). After talking things over with DH, in far too much scientific detail, I think I've worked out what's happened to my body. So here goes (and ClairePO this might make explain your situation):

When I got the LH surge on CD20, I didn't actually ovulate. I didn't have any other ovulating symptoms. No EWCM, just creamy CM. BD'ed like crazy anyway thinking it was better to trust the OPK. Had no symptoms for a week, except odd brown cm which I thought was an implantation bleed.

Then got ill AND high cervix AND sore nips AND loads of EWCM on CD31. All this (except illness) continued till CD34. BD'ed CD30, CD32 and morning of CD35...but didn't 'hold it in' or stick a pillow under my bum coz I thought we were closed for business.

CD36 BFN and the beginnings of AF-style cramps

CD37 & CD38 (today) stronger AF cramps and sore boobs (not nips), but intermittent.

So, I think I actually ov'ed on CD34/35. My AF-level cramps are actually down to my uterus filling up with endo-lining (again, I'm guessing). I just hope that I don't get AF until at least CD45 to give the egg (if fertilised) a chance to implant.

Is anyone still reading this?

Anyway, have decided to give up the OPKs as I can now tell the difference between proper pre-ov EWCM and random EWCM that my body has been producing on and off throughout the first 30 days of my cycle.

Am concerned that this could mean a really long cycle (with no BFP at the end), even longer than the last one. And if it's a BFN then I'll have to wait until december to test again!

bucky I felt exactly how you're feeling when I gave up the booze. My social life seemed to collapse pathetically. I ended up telling a few friends that we're TTC to put a stop to the 'you're STILL detoxing, god how long for?' But work have no idea, and so much of what I do involves going to industry parties and drinking free booze. I'd be happy to meet up after work in RL if you fancy a hot chocolate. I live in North London and work in Soho, so could come meet you in Angel one day.
Also, wouldn't worry about two g&t's. I've had a couple of glasses of champagne this weekend, the odd drink here and there can't hurt. At least we've stopped binging

MOB sorry AF arrived.

pixie i was a complete monster last cycle. all my hormones conspired to turn me into Evil PMS dragon. I cried and cried and cried, screamed at DH. Sulked, slammed doors, felt v. sorry for myself. Sometimes, it's better to have a long hot bath, a good old cry and let it all out...can't have the stress building up inside you.

Who was it that kept asking their DH if the nipples looked different? I do that ALL THE TIME!

Anyway...sorry for mammoth post.

Pixie do you think Digitalgirl has got lost in her digitalworld? I imagine dg lives in Virtual city and has a space car and a robot dog. All her appliances are voice activated and she claps her hand to get her morning cup of tea . I am worried though...WHERE IS SHE?? And its a most critical time of the month for her!

Hey there you are!! I cross posted.

Hi DG glad you've had a wonderful pamper. I did read your whole post I admire how well you know your body/cycle.

I've used opk for the first time this month and I don't have a clue about doing the temps. Can anyone recommend a good website with instructions of how to do the tempretures?

07MTW There is no place better than fertilityfriend. link. If there is any problem its that there is so much information!

Dg I'm reading it all...I'll get there soon...

Hey DG that sounds like a lovely weekend, very relaxing! Whereabouts where you?

What you say does make sense as about 4-5 days after I had the surge I did have pains that could have been ov pain. I've had it before always the same side and this felt quite similar. So in that case if I'm a few days behind then hopefully AF will be due in a few days.

That said I'm know not sure about using the OPK's, I'm new to this to the whole EWCM is something I've never taken notice of. DP suggests just lots of BD all the time

Evening all,

Glad to see you're back DG and you've had a fabulous time with your DH - we celebrated our 3 yr anniversary in July and were at how quickly the time had passed!

Thank you to all for your concern and good wishes - am sadly still feeling bit , in such a silly mood just cried down the phone at the woman from Next cos my delivery didn't turn up today and I stayed in to wait for it..... I have turned into a pathetic woman!!!!

Bucky you should def find a course or something to do - photography was fab and I now do a few jobs here and there professionly on the back of it. I'm not a drinker so my social life hasn't changed dramatically - my friends have all got used to me having a lemonade so nobody suspects a thing!

Pixie will be thinking of you tomorrow - what time is your appt? Just so I can be 'cyberly' squeezing your hand at the right time!

DG what you wrote sounds entirely plausible. I know I keep banging on about it but maybe you should try keeping check of your temperature. I've found my cycle is textbook so far (albeit very long) and its quite reassuring to know that. Also gives me something concrete to take to the dr should the bfns continue in the coming months.

clairePO - Bailiffscourt Hotel in W. Sussex, I definitely recommend it. DH and I already planning to go back, and this time not forget our swimming cossies.

picknmix - temps is something I've been meaning to do. I've got a digital thermometer, will that do?

bucky lol re: digital world. I do clap my hands for a cup of tea, but all DH says is 'what did your last slave die of?'

07MTW another vote for fertilityfriend here too. Definitely tells you everything you could possible want to know. The only really important things to remember are to use a thermometer that works to .00 and to be religious about taking it at the same time each morning before you do anything. I've got quite good at taking it whilst practically still asleep and then if its my day off, I just go back to sleep again after. Although DH says the beeping from the (digital) thermometer wakes him up too (think this is only right that he has to experience something as well though! )

I'm gonna go google that hotel it sounds lovely.

Can anyone recommend a decent thermometer please? I bought a boots digi one and it goes to .0 but it just gives random results, 38.2, try it again immediately and it says 38.6 etc etc absolute rubbish I'm quite annoyed with it really

picknmix & Bucky Thanks - just checked out fertility friend, WOW loads of info, will go and do thorough search through the site after corrie.

DG a thermometer and a pen (that works - worse thing ever to have to rummage around at 6.30am looking for one!!) and a piece of paper is all you need. You can download charts from the net or just use a diary. I then transfer my details onto fertilityfriend.com (I not a 'VIP' member i.e. I use the free version but it still charts it for you) et voila!

Claire I bought mine from Boots as well - the one in a fertility kit - was more expensive (for just a fancy black folder, book and thermometer) but seems to do the job ok to .00 - although I have found that my temps do jump around which is why its important to take it as soon as you wake up before you do anything. Its more a trend that your looking for so if you have a 'wierd' temp one day it might just be a one off (fertilityfriend notes what time you take it and if its different from usual they mark it so that you know it might be a one off)

I used to live 2mins away from Bailiffscourt Hotel and am of you DG!! I went to a wedding earlier this year to The Spread Eagle in Midhurst (same chain) and it was absolutely gorgeous.

Bugger I looked at the fertility kit too and thought I won't get that as there are websites you can track things on LOL oh well

thanks picknmix. Will put pad and thermometer by bed for tomorrow morning.

anyone else do things hoping that sod's law will kick in and bring on a BFP? This weekend I drank two glasses of bubbly, ate medium-rare meat (wood pigeon, if you must know ), goats cheese with a blue rind on it and half a smoked salmon sandwich.

I don't even know what eating any of these things, if PG, does to you...

Hi everyone
I take a few days off from MN and spend an hour or so catching up with everything that has been happening.
I'm now CD20 and all of a sudden my boobs feel completely different. They are much firmer and feel quite tender. I definately have a metallic taste in my mouth especially when I am eating something particularly in the morning when I am having breakfast. Is it too early to be experiencing symptoms or are they psychopsyhmatic (sp?)

PicknMix I have been thinking that I could become a world renowned latin dancer all lithe and beautiful with itty bitty costumes. I would walk around with perfect posture, totally groomed with natural looking false eyelashes and perfect white teeth. I would jump up at weddings and formal occasions when dancing music comes on and clear the dance floor with my moves. Hmm, now where do I find that class? I have never actually done latin dancing before and my friend (yes I do have one ) tells me if you turn up without a male partner you have to dance with a girl cos not may single boys turn up, but hey its worth a go! Or I might just go to that photography class, I wonder though, with digital cameras what do you do? I did an art foundation course and a design degree so I did a bit a lot of years ago, but I had to develop film and stuff then..

dg If I meet you can I pet your cyber dog and use your communication bracelet (you know the one that you speak into to contact your friends). Will you be the one wearing the silver shift dress and silver knee high boots? It sounds like you have figured out your cycle but HOW do you deal with such long cycles?? 45 days?? I hope you are right and it works out, but I am gobsmacked (no offence meant of course, but you know that by now).

I have the now usual up a cup tits. And now they hurt when I run which is a new symptom otherwise nothing....6 or 7dpo. I am sure I ov about the time of the on my OPK. Tits started growing immediately after.

And finally...sorry post so long..I went to the walk in back rub place and the woman asked me if I was ttc or pregnant, and I said yes, and she said you shouldn't have massages during the first trimester, even if there was only a chance that BFP and that alot of people would refuse me. She did the massage saying she was avoiding all the 'points' associated with the womb. My neck and shoulders were killing and I figured surely massaging your neck isn't going to prevent a BFP??

I didn't have anything anyway near as fancy as your menu DG but I did have a sneaky cigarette in a defiant 'if all I get is a bfn then I'll do what I like' type way. Didn't taste too good though.....

picknmix x-posted, it's beautiful isn't it? Only thing is it's quite pricey so we opted for a Sunday night as there's no way we could afford a Friday and Saturday. Still, best get these luxuries in now before kids come along and we become 'bank of mum and dad'.

Sorry I meant to say Hi to the newbies and boo hoo to those who have had BFN or TEW visiting over the last few days.
It also looks like it's been extremely emotional for quite a few of you over the weekend. {LL sends huge cyber hugs to everyone and plenty of babydust }
That should be enough for a couple of days.