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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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ttc, got my fertile days, ordered ov tests, now just need to obsess over it. need your thoughts ladies

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merrylissiemas · 29/12/2006 16:09

3 mcs and really thought i was pg thru dec. but no af landed on my door xmas day. need positive vibes and old wives tales etc to help keep me sane

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Scootergirl · 29/12/2006 16:13

It'll happen when you least expect it... and other such things that people say in these situations. Sending you LOADS of positive vibes xxx

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merrylissiemas · 29/12/2006 16:14

at least dh is looking forward to this month

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rahrah1 · 29/12/2006 16:27

Hi there - It took us a year and half to conceive. Had been trying really hard for all that time and then the one month we only had BD twice and did not try at all (as was havig a gynie procedure) I caught. So agree with Scootergirl that happens when you least expect it. But I know it is hard when you so desperately want it to happen. We lost our first baby, so are back on the path of conceiving.. It is hard work!! Good luck... xx

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merrylissiemas · 29/12/2006 16:29

rahrah1 i did see your thread and im so sorry. had some prelim tests done and bloods are ok and no nasty pids etc, so just got to try and try

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Scootergirl · 29/12/2006 16:55

I'll keep my fingers crossed for both of you x And lissie, my DH was GUTTED when I got pg the first month of trying with both and then went completely off sex for the entire time. Tee hee. There are some positives for the two of you after all

lulumama · 29/12/2006 17:25

relaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax! yeah right ! and enjoy the love making rather than baby making !

it will happen, i will keep everything crossed for you xxx

Scootergirl · 29/12/2006 18:57

Bump for lissie x (here's hoping )

lisasimpson · 29/12/2006 19:23

drink lots of fluid (perferably water and fresh grapefruit juice) and keep an eye on your cervical mucous. It is also apparantly more copious with evening primrose oil tablets. When it starts to look like egg whites that's when you are ovulating.

rahrah1 · 29/12/2006 20:02

Thanks merrylissiemas -

I am just waiting for my tests results to come back. Did you have the blood clotting test? My consultant said that due to all the bleeding I had during my pregnancy, it could be something to do with that. But if they cant find anything on the tests, they are likely to still put me on aspirin on my next pregnancy. Have they suggested anything in regards to your MC's?

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merrylissiemas · 30/12/2006 11:23

had the blood clotting tests etc, at 1st they put it down to the fact that i had GBS in my womb, but all those tests were clear, it may be down to my hormone levels coz i always mc at 6-9w. got to see my gp to discuss the next step in the NY

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rahrah1 · 30/12/2006 15:13

Whats GBS? - sorry...

I have to wait for the NY aswell for results. It sounds bad but I really want them to find something so they can help, rather than it be just one of those things... But he has said even if they don't find anything he will look at putting me on aspirin.

Hope you get a few answers in the NY and a plan for future pregnancies....xx

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/12/2006 15:18

Group B Streptococcus is a normal bacteria that is present in 10-30% of women's vagina. It becomes important in childbirth for you if you develop signs of an infection, which can be quite nasty (after you've delivered). The infection can be of the womb lining (endometritis) or in the wound if you have had a caesarean section.

Group B Strep and Your Baby

Much more importantly for your baby is the disease called Early Neonatal Group B Streptococcal Septicaemia (ENGBSS). This occurs after the baby passes through an infected birth canal and the infection spreads to his blood stream. 30% of affected neonates develop meningitis (an infection of the lining of the brain) and half of these babies will be brain-damaged. 20-30% will die.

The baby will carry the bug in 35-50% of labours where a swab taken during labour was positive and in 25% where there was a confirmed swab at some point during the pregnancy. Studies from the US indicate that 1-2% of babies that carry the bug develop ENGBSS, whereas in the UK it is only 0.2-0.5%.

In the UK, ENGBSS occurs in 0.3/1000 neonates. In the US it is 3/1000.

Are You at Risk?

There are some well identified risk factors for a baby developing ENGBSS. In addition to a positive swab during pregnancy, the following factors lead to a much increased chance of infection (about 50/1000 as compared to 0.3/1000), and should lead to treatment during labour:

Prolonged rupture of membranes (>18-24h)
Preterm labour (

rahrah1 · 30/12/2006 15:32

Thanks MomOnTheRun, how stupid am I!! I had strep B with my son. I just did not know it was called GBS. I had prolonged rupture of the membranes between 23 and 24 weeks. I delivered at 24+1weeeks. They gave me a course of IV anti'b's every 8 hours.

rahrah1 · 30/12/2006 15:33

Sorry - meant thanks AttilaTheMeerkat!!!...going crazy today!!

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/12/2006 15:43

That's quite allright.

Hope both your son and yourself are okay now.

rahrah1 · 30/12/2006 18:00

Thanks AttilaTheMeerkat. My son unfortunately did not survive after birth, he was alive for 6hrs. We are still awaiting some of the results back, his consultant is visiting us on the 3rd/Jan. So should get some answers then. X

AttilaTheMeerkat · 30/12/2006 22:27

rahrah1,

I am most saddened to read of your son's death. I hope the info I provided did not unduly distress you - it was quite detailed.

SANDS (www.uk-sands.org) were very helpful to both my friend and myself when her child was stillborn at full term. You may want to speak with someone like them if you have not already done so.

There is a GBS UK based website - if you wish I can find this for you and post it here.

You are in my thoughts and prayers

Attila xxx

rahrah1 · 31/12/2006 00:18

Thanks AttilaTheMeerkat - You have not said anything to upset me in anyway. Thanks for your thoughts and info. Have a bereavement councillor and have signed on to sands, but MN is a good line of support and information.

Thanks Again x

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merrylissiemas · 31/12/2006 13:01

they found gbs on placenta so the infection had got into my womb and they didnt find it for 3 weeks

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rahrah1 · 31/12/2006 15:01

I know it is strange, they said it was imperative that I did not get an infection, due to all the issues I was having. But it takes over a week for the swabs to come back...with that length of time passing it can cause much more damage.

My sister in law is American and she was screened for strep B routinely in USA, her bloods detected it and she was given treatment straight away and has been monitored through her pregnancy and will be given IV anti-b's at birth, even though her tests are now coming back clear. It seems they are much more on the ball in USA, as the patients pay for everything, were tests are not routinely completed in UK due to NHS picking up the bill.... I was really shocked by the level of care here...even though all the hospitals have all been done up, the funding is still not there... They only seem to give treatment when obviously needed rather than preventative...

Sorry for my rant!!

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merrylissiemas · 01/01/2007 13:15

dont apologise i totally agree.
im 5"2 and a size 6and while pg went up to size 16 maternity, all bump. i kept telling docs that he was too big but they told me that i couldnt have a cs and it was hard work thats why its called labour. ds was 9lb2 with a head the size of a 5w old. his head was so bruised and i ended up witha crash cs coz my heart rate dropped so low. never had an apology either.

how are you doing at the mo?

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rahrah1 · 01/01/2007 13:41

to be honest merrylissiemas I'm struggling a bit, I don't seem to be able to focus on anything apart from my last pregnancy, my son (just think he should be with me all the time and things we would be doing etc...,) and getting pregnant again. It's all just too hard... don't know which way to turn!

Anyway, back onto the hospitals, I think it is unbelievable how the mothers are not listened too... I can't believe the ante-natal care system in this country. They just don't seem to realise the implications their actions are having on the patient. Can't believe that they would not do a CS on you...(especially with your size) It's all about targets etc... If the hospital is over their CS rate then they really hold back on doing any unless emergency. (One of the doc's at my hospital told me that).

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merrylissiemas · 02/01/2007 11:55

disgusting isnt it? my gp kept referring back to the consultant coz i have tiny feet too, size 2, and ds kept engaging then disengaging. during the cs it took 3 docs to dislodge him from my hips!!!

i cant even begin to understand what you must be going thru. have you read a book called "saul"? i read it after my 2nd mc and it broke my heart but found it v theraputic

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rahrah1 · 02/01/2007 16:01

God that sounds awful and really distressing...

Not read the book, but will look it up on internet...Thanks for the tip...

I'm reading ' a girl with a one track mind' - it's about a 32year old woman who can not do anything but think about sex. She started writing a blog and got so many hits that she wrote the book. ---wonder who the hits were from!! (by the way, just because I'm reading a book like this, does not mean I am similar! LOL, my sister just got me some books so I could try and relax!)

lissielou · 03/01/2007 11:38

what has your doc said about ttc?

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