Waving the witch off and starting afresh.. Buddies welcome!

[DrMum83]

Wondering if anyone wants a buddy?
I'm ttc #2 (DD 13m)
Just finishing AF and embarking on cycle 2

Come shove 2 fingers to the back of the witch and let's count down to O and POAS psychotically in a few weeks...

I'm going all out this month with SMEP, pressed, EPO, OPKs....

*months not mobs obviously!

Pox alert may be off, the spots have gone down and only one new one. He's really in a bad mood though so def sick of some kind.

Sunny I'm out with you today. My pre af spotting has started and it's a couple of days early too. But it's def pre af and nothing else, aside from it usually starting at night not morning it's the exact same and the same pattern of brown then red the stopping. Sigh.

Can't stop, DH is apparently oh so tired from one night of soothing a sick baby after my two weeks of nights without a break. Dick. (Af hormones def here too...)

Waving to the rest of you! X

Just double checked, coming into cycle 5 now. Sigh.

Fingers crossed it's not chicken pox then ohno.

How many cycles were you trying for last time? I'm sure you will have already said this but my memory is shit at the minute. Maybe your body just needs a bit longer in between pregnancies? Did you always want a small age gap?

I'm wondering if I'm going to have to go back on the conception vitamins. I can't see how I can sustain a pregnancy with such a short luteal phase. I conceived DS on the first month of taking Seven Seas vitamins. They didn't mess my cycle up that month. I might just have to give it a go and see what happens. It doesn't seem that easy to boost your b6 with food. I'm fed up today. Probably hormonal and lack of sleep but anyways BOOO to life.

Hope everyone else is ok.

I think i conceived month 6 last time. Maybe I'll try the seven seas too, pregnacare make me feel sick.

I'm also hormonal and so so sad today. My husband is being selfish again, he keeps saying get a rest so you can recover from illness (I've had an ongoing virus type thing for s few weeks now and can't shake it) but then he just sleeps. He sat down on the sofa and slept when we were supposed to be going out. And then I think that maybe having a baby is a terrible idea because he's never going to change. Then I think I'd rather do it alone and give my son a sibling. Can't stop crying today. Bloody hormones.

Pregnacare made me feel sick too, but the seven seas were ok. They're a lower dose of a lot of the vitamins and much smaller and cheaper too.

Sounds like you're having a really crappy day. Have you asked him how you're supposed to rest when he's asleep? Is giving your son a sibling the biggest driver for wanting another then? Let's hope the awful AF hormones F off soon

Oh ladies, af has brought with it a massive gush of hormones today and I need some love.

Me and DH are having a rough time together, obvs I'm not preg when I wanted to be, I'm feeling shit about my weight but can't stop eating, I'm not sure I'm massively happy/confident with my new sahm status. And to top it off I've just packed away the perfect prep and steriliser of my son's. He's growing up and I love him so much but also miss the baby stage. This is all made worse by the fact I can't really talk to my husband about it because it ends in an argument, if he even notices the fact i sit and cry about it fairly regularly at the moment. I need a cuddle and instead he aggressively tells me it'll just get easier with a bigger child and that if I just left him to go out drinking all the time we wouldn't fight.

I know it's all hormones but for some reason this month they've come with a vengeance. I must have cried for about 5 hours today. I did take some of my frustration out on a twat who parked in parent and child at the garden centre when there were no other spaces and ran across the car park to make him move his car. But other than that I've just cried to myself while my husband naps.

I think I'm genuinely getting scared that I may never have another baby. I may never need to wait those agonising 2 mins while the perfect prep kicks out a bottle at 3am. Or curse myself for forgetting to sterilise. I know I'm being ridiculous but ffs these hormones!!!!!!!

Inwouldngonand get wine but the kid is getting sicker and is currently screaming the joint down and refusing dinner

I'm really sorry you feel so shitty today. Packing away the perfect prep is definitely the end of an era. I can't relate to missing the early days but I know that sometimes it feels like they won't be your baby for long at all and that's sad. From what you've said it sounds like you're having a difficult time at the minute in general and you're probably very tired and run down. I'm sure it doesn't help that you're feeling very broody and AF has just arrived. I've had some irrational moments of thinking that I might never have another. But you have to try and be logical about it. There's no reason why you wouldn't be able to conceive another child is there? Sometimes I think places like MN give you a warped perception on reality because it draws a lot of people who have problems and want to talk. If you think about the real world, do you know many people who are unable to have a second child? I really don't. It's so hard and shit but you just have to stay positive.

Hope that doesn't sound like I'm preaching but I've had to have a stern word with myself today too so I'm kind of just saying the same thing to you!

As for DH and the SAHM stuff, I guess only you can work that out. I have lots of wobbles about being a SAHM. What is it you don't like? Could you maybe get a few hours of childcare to go for a chat with DH and try and clear the air a bit?

Hope you're ok xx

Oh and to the inconsiderate arseholes who use parent and child spaces. I read someone saying how parents shouldn't have the right to park closer to the store. Clearly missed the point on THE EFFING WIDER LINES Makes me so mad. Good for you for telling him!!!

Oh and I laughed at the 'agonising two minutes' comment too!

Thanks sunny. I've had s good old cry (and quite a lot of wine) and I'm feeling a bit better. My hormones are horrendous, I have honestly never known them to be this bad. I do get pmt and maybe a little weepy (like the odd tear at OBEM) but I've honestly been in hysterics most of the day. In hoping this means I'm setting down after a few months back on the pill.

I was more worried that we'd end up separated before another baby than physically unable to have one. I look back on the early days fondly because they were the easiest time for me - I had never been especially maternal so was fearing the worst but remember thinking how easy it was. I was lucky because the day DH went back to work after pat leave my dad arroved from overseas for 3 months and we had an amazing summer, I had help, was well rested, not lonely and Im so close to my dad that it was just a lovely time, the hard bit came when he went home and winter came and crap like going back to work became a focus. And now those lovely snuggly early days seem so long ago 😢

I'm fairly sure I wil wake up tmrw (or worst case mon) feeling perfectly normal!

How's everyone else's weekend going? Are we all on the booze now?

In other news I took some of my aggression out on a twat who parked in parent and child with no kid earlier in the supermarket complex thing. There were no other spaces and it just started raining so I ran over to them and asked them to move their car because we had a baby. They looked sheepish but did move, then we saw them in the aquarium shop later and had to ask them to breathe in and let us down the aisle because we have a baby and need to get by... HA!

Hi all!

I'm so sorry ohno that you've been feeling so shit. I hope today has been better for you. I know how you feel - my DD gets bigger every day but dya know, even in spite of the mc, I can't help feeling that this can't be the end of pregnancy and newborn stage. I absolutely agree with sunny - once you've had one healthy pregnancy, I think it would be really unusual and rare to not be able to conceive and carry a healthy pregnancy again. I also agree that MN is a warped world. Everyone is all so tightly tracking their cycles it feels like you've been trying forever and the days feel like they're passing so slowly, but it's completely normal for a healthy couple to take 12 months to conceive. I know that sounds shit and most do conceive within 6-8 months, but please don't feel there is something wrong.
I hear what you're saying about worrying about your relationship and separating before conceiving. Is it worth sitting down with DH and having a frank discussion about your feelings? Perhaps you're on different pages and men just don't get what it means to us women. It's an unshakeable urge that consumes so much of us. They could never get that. I know it sounds stupid, but could you write down how you feel and how his recent behavior has affected you? You might find he starts to help a bit more? Hope I'm not overstepping the mark.

sunny sorry the witch got you. I wouldn't worry too much about the luteal phase - mine has always been 10 days and I've conceived 3 times (don't think miscarriages are anything to do with it) It may just be things setting down post pill (you were on the pill weren't you, my memory can be crap!)

Hope all the babies are feeling a bit better.
You're both brave shouting at the twats in the mother and baby spaces. I normally internally combust with rage but I'm a spineless cow and could never get he balls to say something, well done!

In other news, I got a bfn yay!! My Dd is a lot better too, thank fuck.

Waves to minty and mimi hope you're well

Morning everyone. Hope you're ok sunny and ohno. Great news about your BFN drmum I will catch up properly tonight with everyone all but very quickly can you pls tell me if you think this is my positive opk? It's from this morning and we dtd yesterday morning, we need to dtd tonight too don't we?

I'd say yes that's a positive! Defo. And sex for you tonight! Catch up tonight X

Morning everyone. I think the OPK looks positive too minty! What cycle day are you on? Get DTDing! I've ordered mine for next month so I can try and know in advance whether the vitamins have messed up my cycle again. So I might be coming to you lot for advice when I start testing because I've never used them before. I know the general idea but I don't know when you test? In your cycle and what point in the day etc?

That's interesting about your luteal phase too DrMum. I wasn't stressing about the 10 days originally but then when I had spotting for 3 days before this month I thought something might be up. It could well be just the month I've had but thought I'd give the vitamins a go again anyway. I really hope it doesn't give me another crazy long cycle. Great news on your BFN though! Do you think you have ovulated yet?

I'm really glad your DD is better too, it's beyond depressing when they're ill isn't it. Thanks for the pep talk on conception etc too. Even though I'd kind of being telling myself that, it's still nice to hear someone else say it as well!! I'm absolutely sure it won't be the end of pregnancy and newborn stages for you either. You're so right about MN. The hard thing is the more you obsess, the worse it all feels but it's so hard not to I think? I'm really disappointed in myself because I thought I would be much more relaxed second time round, but last month I was a nightmare. Hoping to be better this month.

I agree about the DH thing too. Mine says he just puts it out of his mind during the TWW but I think it's so much easier for them to be separated from it when it's not their body and I don't think that they feel the broody burn like we do! Sounds like you have some other issues with your DH though too ohno. Definitely worth a proper chat away from the baby if you can.

Hope you're ok too mimi. Happy Monday everyone....At least it's bank holiday next weekend wooooo!!!

Oh and I meant to say no I've not just come off the pill. I went on for about 3 months last year but felt awful. I've had 6 periods since coming off the pill!

Thanks lovely ladies, it's the bottom one on here and it's slightly earlier than previous months at CD12. Need to pounce on dp tonight then tee hee! I'm not an expert with the OPKs but will of course help if I can sunny.

Will be back after work (after the pouncing obvs )

Have a good day all. Xxx

That's interesting to see the progression minty, thanks for that! Happy DTDing!!!

Ok ladies I'm back! that is all!

Thank you for replying earlier and I'm sorry for popping on and off again so quickly. How rude of me.

I hope you're ok ohno. How are you feeling today? This TTC lark is very stressful, it's easily said to just relax and it'll happen but the pressure gets to you. And clearly it gets to the men too. Have you had a chat with DH yet? They just don't seem to 'get' us sometimes. Hormones never help either. Inconsiderate bastards!

Brill news about your BFN drmum. It's taken ages but you got there in the end. Are you going to be back on with TTC again now? Eeeeeeek.

Sorry AF got you sunny. That's poooo. Fresh cycle now though, let's keep positive.

mimi how are you lovely? Hope you enjoyed your night out with DH.

I think I actually ov'd today as I had a few crampy twinges inside so fingers crossed our dtd tonight might have done the trick or even when we dtd during the weekend. My opk tonight at around 6.30 was back to negative as the second line much paler than this mornings so it's back into the TWW. Who is next to join me? Think it may be mimi but not certain.

Just noticed this what is it?!

Hi minty! Great news on the ovulating! Really hope this is your month It's a bit crazy how fast they change though. How many times a day do you test? When do you start testing from? I was thinking from about 5 days before I usually OV?

I'm cd4 but don't usually ovulate until around cd22 so ages to wait yet and that's if the vitamins don't mess my cycle up so who knows! Gives me a bit of a break to try and clear my head before next TWW anyway.

Hope everyone is well!

Oh and absolutely no clue at all what that picture is!!!!

Morning Sunny ... waves to everyone else!

I've been doing it twice a day, before work and then when I get home around 5.45pm although I understand the morning one isn't likely to be as useful as the afternoon one. I've noticed a difference this month especially between the morning one and the afternoon one, it was a clear positive then the second line in the afternoon had faded somewhat i think making it negative within 11 hours, so yeah it is crazy about how quick they can change. They also have to be just as dark or darker than the control line to be positive, which you probably know already. I usually do a few afternoon ones from CD9/10 and then twice a day onwards until I've a good idea that I have ov'd. I think that's a good idea to test from 5 days before when you usually ov. Your POAS addiction is about to go batshit crazy!!!

Thanks for the advice. I'll start about cd17 then, so still not for ages off! They've not come yet anyway. Haha yeah I hate peeing in a pregnancy stick but maybe I'll get in to peeing on an ovulation stick! Well I presume you dip them?! To be fair I dipped my BFP as well, I was too nervous to risk peeing all over the place. Haha TMI I know!

I'm feeling quite good today. Starting to wave the witch off so that's probably making me feel better. Fingers crossed for some BFPs this cycle for everyone. When are you going to test?

Oh god I know what you mean, I can't be arsed with the peeing on the sticks themselves method, what a pissy mess it makes!! I always do the peeing and dipping into a container, its so much easier! Eeek I am excited for you to start doing your opk's! I thought about temping, but it sounds a bit to be honest!

Glad to hear you're feeling quite good today. Nothing better than waving the witch off, it feels very good!

I've got my fingers and toes firmly crossed for everyone too. I think Mimi is in front of me, by a week if I remember rightly. She's been quiet lately, I really hope you're ok mimi.

Well we are off on hols to Majorca on 4th June (well it's a night flight so won't get there til early hours of 5th) for a week and AF is due about the 10th I think, so going to have to pack some FRER's! And some bloody Tampax! We've booked all inclusive so cue lots of yummy food and drink .

Is it you or Ohno that's lives in Yorkshire? i'm too lazy to read up through the pages

Haha yep I agree. I do not want to piss on my hand ever thanks!! Although wait until your pregnant and you have to do the samples around a big bump. That's messy!!! I temped for two cycles last time I TTC and it was really good. It predicted my due date bang on for my son and helped me to be sure that I had definitely OVed. But you can only really do it if you have a relatively consistent wake up time after a decent chunk of sleep, which obviously with a 16 month old I don't!

Oh fantastic news about going on holiday. Nothing better than something to distract you during the TWW. My son would have been implanting whilst I was on holiday with my family and I'm sure being relaxed helped!

Yeah it's me in West Yorkshire. Did you say you were North Yorkshire?

Exactly! And that's what happened every time I tried! Oh god yeah, that does sound like fun and games! Ooo that's really interesting about temping, thank you for that. It's maybe something I can look into next cycle. Without any DC I could get into a nice routine before I get out of bed every morning! Maybe once I get my head round it, it will be less confusing.

That's what I thought too, distraction is good! I like the sound of your DS implanting whilst you were relaxed on holiday, I could do with some of that!

Yep I'm in North Yorkshire. York to be precise! Although I am from East Yorkshire, family are all still there. Are your family still back where you moved from?