Thread 9. TTC#1 The thread where we unanimously delete Ovia.

[StarkyTheDirewolf]

Symptom spotters, tww - ers, slightly hysterical hormone laden ladies! Regs, lurkers, intermittent posters! Our raison d'etre is 'am I pregnant?' Depending on how much Ovia (Whybird/Ovibitch) has pissed us off/messed with our fw she is either the oracle or a sanctimonious charlatan.

Just a warning, we move FAST! Our threads last on average, about a week before they're full.

Thread 9 , Welcome one and all! Group of weirdos, wee hoarders, covert opk or okp, depending on what your autocorrect decides addicts with a side business in CM management!

We do not judge, we enjoy TMI, we i encourage waiting to poas nobody listens and all the grossness you can find from a group of intelligent, articulate ladies. Fart stories make us laugh, stories about cervical mucus, pooing, cysts and nausea equally welcome.

Post your stats and add your dates. We have a register thanks to kat, I have been dubbed the resident piss stick queen loaaaaaads of bfp'ers who keep us positive! We don't have rules, we love a good symptom spot, we try to stay grounded and not be hysterical sometimes we manage it aswell

We like acronyms, we make some up: PET = Proper expensive test. We love the d(h)...which can of course mean 'dearest' or 'dickhead' why, what were you thinking?

Cervix poke only allowed once a day. Aye aye Captain Stark! I was just so worried I might miss a spot of implantation bleeding!! ... But I know, thanks to the starky oracle, that there's only 30% chance of that anyway!!!

I'm so jealous of the puppy pics-i would give anything to have a dog!!! A cat is only second best for God's sake don't let Phoebe hear me...you know cats...i will be punished if she so much as gets a sniff of not being No 1!

Yvonne it's so devastating and frustrating when OH says no at the important time. On this thread I think we've realised that most OHs don't really understand how important the timing is. Is it possible to explain to your OH that really there's only 3 days in 40 that you stand a chance of getting upduffed? (let's exaggerate just a little bit to prove the point!) So only 27 days in a year you can get pregnant?

ni this YouTube video is exactly how I feel about your gorgeous moggy!

I'm worried about you poking holes in your cervix! Maybe you could do it with an ear bud? To lessen the chance of you hurting yourself! I was going to get a cat! My next door neighbour at the time had a beautiful ginger lion cat I can't remember the breed and he used to come chill with me while she was out. (We had a tiny little courtyard and we'd both leave our back doors open) I'd wake up in the summer and he'd be on my bed 😁 it was sheer chance I found my Beany baby, but I'm so glad I got her, she was the light of my life for about 6 months I'm over dramatic when I was having a bad time!

I've got some new wool and can't decide what I want to make, I'm terribly indecisive tonight. Bet Ovia would be like "struggling to make a decision? 27% of ovia users say they feel indecisive before they get pregnant"

www.babyhopes.com/articles/intercourse-after-positive-ovulation-test.html

I've just found this article, which suggests you can ovulate up to 72 hours after a positive opk....72 hours?...I can't capitalise number but 72 bloody hours! I was up to 36 a minute ago! Wtfs 'baby hopes and dreams website' And now I'm stressing that I didn't dtd enough, or I should have covered my cases and dtd on Tuesday too. So obviously now I'm completely convinced I missed my egg this cycle. 😂

It also contradicts everything else I've read about not needing to lie down with a pillow under the bum to help sperm travel. So yes, flummoxed. 😬

Right, well if it is 72 hours then I have a luteal phase of like 5 days and am basically foo-ked!

Stardusty, send us your pics of pee- on-a-towel from CD10 onwards and we'll tell you when you're at peak fertility. Could be the thing we're all missing!

I've just had a tiny nose bleed, which feels like my body extra determined to underline that I have blood coming out of several orifices. Yeah. Got it.

It's confusing me to be sure latin I can't quite work it out. I always thought always being the last 8 weeks, when I have read every thing about ovulating ever written that it was max 36 hours after positive opk. I'm ignoring this new bollocks about 72 hours as it will only serve to wind me up!

In other news, I'm having very mild af cramps.

Starky I love a good bit of wool. When I'm stuck for inspiration I go and loose a few hours of my life on Ravelry. No need for inspiration here right now; all my friends babies get the same knitted present (varied by wool choice) and I have three queued to make right now. Just need to order the yarn.

Still waiting for AF and ignoring Ovia shouting at me to test. Might be having mild cramps but it could be wind or I could be making it up.

Hello lovely ladies
Ahhh it is so hard to catch up with messages quick enough!
But I am pleased to see we are still carrying on with our wee wees and tmi.
I am still suffering the visit of AF. And absolutely exhausted.
I am struggling with this winter, I need sunshine!!!!
And also, even though this is only Cycle 3, starting to want to give up on this TTC business. It is just too exhausting. The wait, the emotions, all the dtd when you have to do all the effort as DP could not care less about sex...
Rant rant rant. Anyone else feeling they might just give up? I think I could be happy without kids? Could I?

Yes ever! this has gone through my mind too. I'm also on cycle 3. I know I'm not actually going to give up, I like a challenge tormenting myself and since trying it's made me realise even more that I really do want it. Has it done the same for you?

Obviously if its just not meant to be we will fill our house with lots more kittys and a dog and be grateful for our lot but I'll be giving it a good go first! feels exhausted at the thought of bonking non stop for next 2 years

miley milo is very handsome. That really does look like jizz though!

Loving all the pet pics :) we are so varied with our babies bunnies and chickens.

starky here's hoping baby stark will be more coco than nacho

fxskip I've never heard of a Bombay before! Maybe he is a Bombay? He has got very luxurious fur.

Sorry you're feeling so crap ever perhaps after the bitch has gone and your hormones settle down you'll feel more positive. If you're still feeling old this perhaps you could take a break from it, or just take a more casual / relaxed approach for a few months.

Sorry for my typos!

Completely with you ni and yvonne on getting principles of ttc across to DH. I'm 9dpo and determined to DTD every day this week. DH is less so. This lead to quite a crap argument last night :(

Gorgeous fur babies all. I really want a dog! Have been promised one once we get a house!

My DH is already gearing himself up for "intense shagging week" as he has started calling it! I think we are going to have to have an intense shagging 2 weeks tho as I'm still not sure when I ovulate

I know this is a conception thread and its bit early to be talking about this but does anyone ever think about what kind of birth they'd like? For me a home birth with a pool and my momma and a doula would be right up my street, if everything was ok for a home birth. And if I could afford a doula, probably have to remorgage first, or dress the baby in bin liners for first year of its life.

Oh I forgot dh. He could be there too and be as much use as a chocolate teapot
Ha, not discrediting him, he has his uses like getting me upduffed although did he get that memo?! he's rather old fashioned, 30 going on 70, and i bet he would rather hide in the pub til it's all over!!

SuchaJem - Max is adorable! I also have a black cat and he's my little baby panther (though he's actually enormous and heavy - not fat, just very tall and long!)

My cats LOVE going into their baskets for the vet. As soon as the baskets go down they are straight in and like to sleep in there. They don't particularly like the vet so I think they're just not bright enough to have linked the two things together....

Jam - your bunny is lovely! Bilbo is so cute!

Ni - Phoebe is beautiful! And completely agree about the hairs - my finger cat moults on my ALL the time. You put on some clothes in the morning and realise he's got into the drawer and sat on them...

Lols at buttercream boobs!

Ever that thought has crossed my mind before too (I'm cycle 3 too). Hopefully it won't get to that stage, but if it ever got to the point where I needed to have ivf, them I would probably give up, mostly because DH has a daughter already, it means I wouldn't be eligible for it on the nhs and there is no way we could afford to pay for it.
I'd consider adoption, but I think I could be happy without children, I'd just get more animals (because 2 dogs, a cat and 2 guinea pigs isn't enough already lol).
My feelings may change of course.

*ginger, not finger.....

Excuse my potential ignorance but does cycle three mean you've tried for three months? I could be wrong here but that doesn't sound like very long to me. I don't mean to disregard any feelings at all here. I'm under the impression it takes most couples more like 6 - 12 months?

lisa Max is enormous too! He likes to lie along DHs legs - he stretches from his ankles to his hips

That's so funny yours hop into the basket

mog I've thought about it from time to time. I think as a woman who wants kids it's going to cross your mind. I quite like the thought of being in a birthing pool, it looks quite zen on one born every minute.

I would love a dog but DH isn't at all keen he does have a point that we are out too long, do you take dogs to work with you or do they stay at home?

We used to have a cat invader in our last house too-he used to come through an open window and come upstairs to the bedroom, or make himself comfy on the sofa. He always ran away if we went to stroke him though!

Banarma any takers...of the question not the blob.LOL!

Starky your OPKs look totally different to mine-both the ones I've done in the last 2 days have no visible line at all (cd 7 and 8). My peaks aren't quite as dark as yours either. Next month I will try to be organised and save a collection to share!

Ni I chuckled at you scooping your cervix dry! That's dedication! anyone else struggling to unclench?

Welcome Yvonne, that sounds frustrating . Hope you manage to dtd today

Starky and Co5mo-how do I learn to knit? I am desperate to give it a try!

Jem have you made DH watch the sperm race? Mine refused to look at the sperm people as he said it was silly but did listen to the sound and has finally twigged that timing is everything, yay! Whether that will make a difference in practice we shall see.

Hugs Evergreen and moggy, it is tiring. trying not to think about what if it doesn't happen. I am turning 35 this year which is the age that things start to get harder apparently trying to concentrate on getting as fit and healthy as possible and not letting my mind go there if you know what I mean?

Yes Jem, cycle 3 means you're on your 3rd month of trying.

sucha glad it's not just me, I think about it far too much! But I do feel a bit silly to be thinking that far ahead. I figure this whole ttc is prep for being a mum ie lack of control. Apparently with giving birth you have to let go of your ideas of your perfect birth cos you might not get it. I'm sure mothering in general is like that too. Ttc is certainly about not being in control from what I've experienced so far!

And yes you're right if course, cycle 3 is still early days. But it feels like a lifetime already to me. And it's easy to loose perspective ie when all your friends and relations seem to get preggers in the first month. Only person I know who took longer was my dsis, who took 6 months. Or else she's the only one who's been honest about it!

Thanks for your comments girls your definitely right DH just doesn't understand how small the fertile window is! We DTD tho so fx just in the TWW now

Good luck to everyone else in the TWW xx

elle we're lucky that my grandparents are retired and love dogs but don't want one full time so if my OH is on a shift that clashes with my work pattern he goes to his grandma's house. Which is heaven for a dog as it overlooks a lovely river and forest area! Plus my granda gets easily bored retired a year ago at 69 years old so gives him something to do. There like best pals!

I feel it's been such a long time since we had anyone testing!

Nausea is setting in so had to skim past anything with the word 'cervix' in so apologies if I've missed anything but I just can't stomach it.

Morning all, miley sorry (not sorry) you are feeling rubbish (Really happy for you actually, since morning sickness is usually an indicator of a strong pregnancy)
Ovia just helpfully chimed in with '42% of Ovia users report feeling calm during the TWW'. Well, Ovia, let me tell you something. 38% of Ovia users must be full of sh*t. Just kidding, I'm super calm, obvs. I'm crampy, irritable, tired and my nips are swollen - AF due in 4 days (apparently) so just want the witch to hurry on up. In other news, OH was talking about going away to work in London, but then said he'd want to be here if I get upduffed so he can look after me. I cried - super calm, like I said...

Ever, I totally get where you're coming from. We are at a similar stage and I think we're probably going to take a couple of months off from TTC (or at least actively TTC) for a few reasons. For me though, I feel like I'm wasting away my life at the moment in two week blocks always waiting for AF or FW to appear. It's pretty miserable isn't it?

elle I haven’t hon. To be honest I think he’s having a bit of a crisis with the whole thing. He’s very risk/change averse in general. Finds making decisions about even everyday things difficult. The thought of having a child and becoming a parent terrifies him – but he really wants kids. And he will be such a great dad, he’s a lovely man. I feel like I’m having to coax him along each step of the way though. It’s a bit exhausting and a bit lonely, as I want someone else to feel the excitement and initiate DTD and look forward to conceiving with me. I’m very very glad I have you lot to talk to about this, as I’m not really talking to anyone IRL about it.

You cycle share with me I think? Are you feeling ovulatory?

mog the control thing is so true. It also has always seemed to me like the kind of experience that you go along with – it’s ancient and its instinctive and our bodies were made to do it, so going along with the ride seems to make sense.

Really hope I haven’t offended anyone by saying three months doesn’t seem that long to me. I can completely see how it can feel like a lifetime when it’s so wanted. I’m only on cycle two this month – and really really want it to happen already.