The craziness that is TTC after stopping the pill. On this thread we have 100 day cycles, do weeks of opks and send ovia into a fit with our ever changing fertile windows! Welcome.

[Sunnydays321]

Hi ladies,

This is the 2nd thread following on from

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2452018-Waiting-to-try-and-cycle-a-mess-from-the-pill

For everyone who is entering the madness that is Ttc after stopping the pill. Maybe to start the thread we could all post our stats, so we remember where everyone is at and don't have to check the old thread. X

I appear to have a positive opk tonight... Not sure how much store to set by it as my body has been throwing out all sorts of confusing signs in the last few weeks and am currently at cd 70 (long bouts of spotting and brown discharge, then no cm at all, then cramps and terrible skin, then a lovely mix of all of the above).

Shall aim for cautiously optimistic though and dtd tonight and tomorrow night.

Sunny that's so confusing do you have an appointment with your GP or Doctor to discuss your results and what they could mean? Xx

Oooh planteer, that's a brilliantly positive opk!!! I got pos opks really late in cycle before. I ovulated cycle day 88 1st cycle off pill.

Yvonne, I will phone gps in a week once they have the report to see what they think. But think she will just say we have to try for a year before they will refer me. X

Are you going to continue the OPKs Sunny in case you get another peak in a few days?

I've finally got a positive! Need to make sura we dtd tonight now no pressure

Sunny, you must be feeling so confused and frustrated by things Mrs. I hope you're ok and your doctor can get to the bottom of things soon. Surely they won't leave you hanging until it's been a year TTC? Your temps and OPKs looks positive to suggest ov has occurred. Keep positive!

I'm really hoping I did actually ov. It was the strange this month as I didn't really have much ewcm at all and my IC OPKs never got as dark as last month, even tho CB suggested peak LH surge. I'm such a pessimist! If I did ov yesterday then would I be 2dpo today or 1dpo? I've always counted the following day as 1dpo but some forum searches has suggested otherwise!

Yvonne & Planet, your OPKs look great! Xx

Hi all. Boobs still a bit achey if i prod them and opk completely white. They were pale pink for a good few days before and after i got my almost positive opk and ewcm the same night.
I have GP phone consultation on 11th, which would be around 14-15dpo if it did happen. So if no AF and boobs still achey or actually sore i will test before they call i think, just incase.
I suspect i am just imagining symptoms though. Need to stop prodding my boobs!!!

sunny that is very confusing. This is an interesting article
www.cemcor.ubc.ca/resources/can-women-tell-if-theyre-cycling-egg-lessly-0

Hi all (I wrote this post and lost it which has made me even more grumpy!)

AF reared her ugly head today! Boo hiss. This makes my luteal phase (if I did indeed ovulate) a rubbishy short 8 days! It has been 8-9 days on previous cycles, which is pants and definitely won't get me preggers.

But it did arrive when I thought it would after my positive opks and high temps, which suggests I probably did ovulate. I do wonder if due to my short luteal phase the corpus luteum had already broken down by yesterday hence why he didn't see it.

I can't remember who asked, but the corpus luteum is what is left of the main follicle after the egg has popped out. It produces progesterone to support the egg. If the egg is fertilised it produces progesterone until the placenta takes over, so should be seen on an early pregnancy scan. If egg isn't fertilised it breaks down, this progesterone drops, and this is what triggers AF (all very clever). It should be seen post ovulation, throughout luteal phase. Sometimes a scar of old corpus luteum can be seen into next cycle. But cos my luteal phase is crap and short maybe that's why it wasn't there... But then I'm not sure why there would still be immature follicles.

This is the first month Iv felt proper crappy and dissappinted when AF arrives. Until this months Iv just kind of been reassured that cycles were getting shorter. But now I just feel that I'm either not ovulating or I am and my luteal phase is crap, but either way I'm not going to get pregnant!! I just need to remind myself that when we set out ttc I was still thinking now it could take 10 months to even have a period (like last time!) so even the fact that we can TRY before then is a bonus.

For those of you taking b6, how much do you take and do you take it for whole cycle?

First: thanks that article is interesting. Good luck with the achey boobs as a positive sign!

Cookie fertility friend counts ov day as day 0, so next day 1dpo.

I'm off to eat my body weight in and drink ! xx

Oh no sunny poor you it definitely gets so much harder to stay positive after each cycle but just think your getting to know your body and your cycle more. It sounds like that could also be why they didn't see the corpus luteum on the scan yesterday.
Agnus cactus takes up to three months to make an effect on your cycle so hopefully next cycle your luteal phase longer. I take 50mg of B6 each day but you can take 100. Enjoy your wine and chocolate

Huge hugs Sunny. I hope you get the answers soon. I take these B complex vitamins for my general health and wellbeing and rheumatoid have a good % of dosage. From H&B and £9.99 for 50.xxx

I'm confused.. my OPK was faded yesterday yet just had a load of very stretchy EWCM... surely if the OPK has started showing a negative I'm past OV?
Any ideas? Didn't test today because of the fact it wasn't positive yesterday.xx

Sunny I'm so sorry to hear of AF rearing her ugly head. I can understand your concerns regarding luteal phase and possibility of not ovulating! I also share both these concerns. I take 100mg of b6 once a day and I appear to have ov'd on CD 21 this cycle as opposed to middle or late 20s! Whether this will affect the actual length of my luteal phase though is still unknown! However, I feel as though I've had so much more energy this month after taking it & would be probably keep taking it even if I wasn't TTC! Stay positive - you will feel rubbish today (and probably tomorrow) but it's amazing how much better you start to feel in a few days time xx

Poin, this is so strange but I was going to ask the very same thing as you! Today I had a very obvious amount of ewcm, though it wasn't quite as stretchy. I assumed I ov'd yesterday & my clear blue peak was Tuesday evening! Really confused now by the whole thing now! Done an IC OPK and line is there but quite faded. Maybe it was today I ov'd & not yesterday! Xx

Don't want to get your hopes up but EWCM is a sign of pregnancy! FX xx

I'm obsessed with symptom spotting!

How odd. Dont know when i OV'd last month to know if this is normal for me. Surely it would be waaayy too early if I peaked Monday/Tuesday Yvonne? Xx

Oh Yvonne you have just made me go like this 1dpo and I'm already getting carried away with myself! How's your OPKs looking today? Did you manage to dtd last night? Xx

I've read on a few other sights as it being a sign too so FX! I definitely had my peak yesterday as my OPK was really weak today! We DTD last night after me telling OH I was ovulating so we had too as he was saying he was tired at first the TWW is killing me already! Xxx

FX girls!xx

More hugs coming your way sunny . Be gentle with yourself today and try to see the new cycle as a new chance. Every cycle you're learning more about your body and its signs, and I've got everything crossed for you that next time will be the charm.

Hello everyone!

Today was the lowest day I've had with all the TTC stuff. I POAS, and got a BFN and I feel AF is coming, after a 77 day cycle. February marks 13 months off the pill, and still my cycle is completely messed up and I am frustrated that I can't seem to work out anything after all this time. I was tearful in work all day and had myself convinced that it will never happen for me. I arrived home and in the post was my first fertility appointment! I am over the friggin moon! When GP sent away referral, she warned me that it could be up to two years wait! My appointment is only 3 months from when my referral was sent! I'm thinking I have angels looking out for me. Hopefully this marks a change, it certainly gives me some hope!

Evening girls!
Sunny - really sorry about AF coming chick I know it feels like a stab in the heart but I also sometimes see it that you are having regular cycles. Fx your gp has some answers - really hoping for some good news for you soon Lovely! If I come on AF when I'm suppose to which is anywhere between 10th-13th i think I will be in the same boat as you we're I have a short luteal phase! what a shitter
Poin - how are you Hun have you made any progress with ttc earlier than planned with oh?
Yvonne & Planeteer - have u had any more positive opks? I had my strongest one on Sunday was faint on Monday then nothing tues! Did you dtd in preparation haha?
First - how are you? How many dpo are you? Fx we get a bfp we are due one I don't know where chocoholic gx91 and Sophie have gone haha they have seemed to dissapeared!
Cookie - how are you doll? Are you at the same point as me? Have you ov'd yet?? I really don't know when my egg was released so I don't even know what dpo I'm on. I'm due on anywhere between 10th-13th so we shall see!

Update anyway girls my nipples are horrendously sore I keep tasting metal in my mouth well I did on Tuesday. My boobs feel heavier but apart from that I'm just aching from being back at fat camp which is sort of taking my mind off AF!!
Xxx

Hey chapman . Know it's a dangerous game to say this, but those symptoms are sounding pretty promising! Fx for you! What day are you testing?

Strongest opk tonight, but first cycle using them so am wary of getting too excited in case my body has a weirdly high amount of lh or something (apparently determined to psych myself out at every opportunity!) Have dtd last 3 nights and DH has asked for a night off tonight! Will go again tomorrow and hope that's enough to catch an egg!

Planeteer - I'm hoping so lovely but trying not to symptom spot cause il just get stressed and upset when AF finally arrives 🙁 And I don't know tbh Hun I'm gonna try hold out til the 10th when my supposed period is due then if it doesn't come il test but I've got them cheapy pg sticks in the cupboard haha.
Fab news about your opk! Not gonna lie we only dtd on Saturday and Mondsy cause I didn't even know I was ov only til Sunday but I've read sperm can live inside you for 3-5 days so hoping I covered all bases haha! If not we go again! Fx for you xxx

Planteer that's a brilliant OPK it's so exciting isn't it as it was my first month using them too!

The only downside I find is that I know can't help but convince myself I'm pregnant as I know we DTD around OV so I can imagine how gutted I'm going to be of if AF arrives! I literal try can't sleep at night for thinking about getting pregnant I wish there was something I could do to switch off!

Chapman you definitely sound like you have BFP signs

Fx to all on this TWW xxxxx

Chapman my positive OPK was Wed I tested again yesterday and it was really faint I DTD Mon & Wed so hopefully I will catch the egg! Xx