The craziness that is TTC after stopping the pill. On this thread we have 100 day cycles, do weeks of opks and send ovia into a fit with our ever changing fertile windows! Welcome.

[Sunnydays321]

Hi ladies,

This is the 2nd thread following on from

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2452018-Waiting-to-try-and-cycle-a-mess-from-the-pill

For everyone who is entering the madness that is Ttc after stopping the pill. Maybe to start the thread we could all post our stats, so we remember where everyone is at and don't have to check the old thread. X

Oh lawyer that's so difficult.

I'm feeling similar about work. I really want to move jobs but then if I did then got pg I'd loose the 20 weeks full pay my company give. But I could stay and not get pg for a year and spend it miserable in my job.
Still fuming that they cut it down from 30 weeks without consultation last year, but that's another story.

Hi everyone, I've been absent for a wee while...I took the arrival of AF quite hard this month. The whole cycle last month was horrendous for me, with multiple LH surges and thinking I was on the tww when I wasn't. What made it even harder was the exact day AF arrived I had to spend 3 hours shopping with colleagues after work for baby gifts for another colleague. I know I must sound like a horrible person but the timing could not have been worst!

Forgive me as I haven't had a proper chance to read back all the messages. How are you all doing? Where are you all at in your cycle? Newgirl, I'm so so pleased for you BFP huni! It really is so uplifting to hear that more of us on here are getting our positives. Hoping you have a lovely, relaxing pregnancy!

I have a doctor's appointment booked in for tomorrow. I'm just so concerned that my luteal phase is only 7/8 days max. Also concerned about the possibility of PCOS so I thought i'd bite the bullet and go for some advice! xx

Cookie, definitely best to speak to go for advice. Iv got show lp 7-9 days, and just had pcos confirmed on scan, awaiting gynae appt. best to get the ball rolling with these things. But fingers crossed you don't have anything and it just puts your mind at ease.

I feel very hormonal today, grumpy and weepy and stressy. Not for any particular reason. Iv had a lovely weekend! I snapped at dh about something that wasn't his fault earlier (now I feel bad). Now I have crept upstairs into bed to have a little cry to myself. Proper sobbing into my pillow type crying! For no particular reason. I Feel better for it. Iv had a really stressful month, death in the family, a couple of awful things at work, the stress over my breast lump. Being diagnosed with pcos is kinda the icing on the cake. I keep logging into fertility friend (like 20 times a day... Why! Nothing's changed!!) seeing my cycle days rack up with no sign of ovulation makes me sad and just grumpy at how hard this is. And DH is just very much of the opinion that it will happen, we have a nice life, why stress over it etc! I know that's true but it's happening to me, inside me, Iv got constant pelvic pain to remind me! It feels like I'm ovulating every day (because of the cysts I think) and It makes me so sure I must be about to ovulate and then every day I get several negative opks and it's just a reminder that it's all a bit crap!

Any ways... Sorry for the very woe is me post, not what everyone needs on a Sunday night with Monday looming! I do feel better after a sob and venting on here. I'm normally very very laid back and it takes quite a lot to stress me out. And I know I do have a lovely life and I'm very lucky.

Hope everyone else is feeling more cheerful! 😀 x

Sunny, you've had a really crap month so you are perfectly entitled to a good cry! Hopefully the gynae appointment will provide new information and help you stress less.
It can be frustrating when your Dh says things like that, mine does the same. I think in man logic that's a comforting thing to say but in reality it is soooo not! That's men for you

I really hope things get better for you and your body starts behaving itself!

It's a fresh week, who knows what will happen x

Sunny, sending hugs your way hun! You're perfectly within your rights to be feeling down & you've had an overly stressful month. We all need a wee cry every now & then so don't be feeling guilty about that. We're always here if you want to vent your frustrations! I can totally empathise with how tour DH is viewing things! My DH is very naive about the whole thing & seems to just think it'll happen soon enough & (although he doesn't say it) probably thinks I'm making a fuss over nothing. I know my body though and I know that something just isn't right. Like you, I've been getting strong pelvic pain since coming off the pill, particularly around the time ovulation would be due. I just know this is isn't right & it's worrying me! I think us girls just have a natural intuition with these things! Stay positive chick (that's what I'm trying to say to myself!) xx

Thank you cookie and bobo for being so lovely. I do feel better now. Got a letter in the post yesterday to phone and make my gynae appt, not sure how long the waiting list will be but at least the ball is rolling. Still no sign of ovulation... A bit annoying mainly because I want to get my progesterone and hba1c bloods done before gynae appt but need to wait til 7dpo. I keep reminding myself that when I came off pill I was expecting it to take 10 months for me to have a period... Like last time... Which takes me up to April, so we always said anything before then was a bonus. It's just a long time when you are actually in it!

How is everyone else?

We must have some bearing end of tww now?

X

Nearing! Not bearing.

Hi girls!

Mega sorry i have not been on here for ages but like cookie i got mega down last month about AF showing and ive been quite busy with work! Me and the DH went to Rome last week for a city break and it was amazing! So relaxing and not a care in the world what we needed really! So anyway i have done no p*ssing on a stick this month we just dtd when we wanted and it was so nice as no pressure. Im due on a week today only thing i am feeling is severe nipple pain in my left boob at the point where i cant touch it. but apart from that nothing im hoping me not stressing out might work haha!

how is everyone??
new girl -mega congrats on your bfp lovely it seems we are getting more bfps as the weeks go on!

love to you all :) xxx

Glad the ball is rolling with your gynae appointment! Hope your ov approaches soon too so you can get your other bloods checked. It's a frustrating time being in limbo and not knowing what's happening

Chapman, your break away in Rome sounds heaven! Glad you enjoyed it hun. Your nipple pain sounds promising! Here's hoping!!

Well my doctor pretty much fobbed me off completely yesterday. She ruled out PCOS even though no tests or examinations were done, which I thought was strange. She also said that I'm still young and should try to relax and not stress about it. I found the whole thing quite demoralising. I'm 28 so I wouldn't class myself as particularly 'young' (in my opinion!). I don't even think my age should come into the equation - my cycles are a mess, I want to start a family NOW, not in 5/10 years time (which I felt she was implying). She did say to come back in May time for blood tests if nothing has improved cycle wise. We'll see sorry for the rant ladies!! Xx

Aw cookie seems like she was patronising you maybe you could try another doctors Hun?? She probably has kids and conceived within the first month sometimes they can't see it from your point of view!! 🖕🏻
Yeah babe it was amazing was a surprise he booked it for my birthday was mega good I ate like a gooden and walked for miles! Just thought I needed time away from all this ttc business! And fx trying not to get my hopes up as u know what it's like when AF shows! Xxxxx

Cookie that's terrible! I did experience one GP who said similar things (in fact even said that the "treatment" for PCOS is going back on the pill, so that's what I should do ), but even so she still referred me for tests when I insisted - I pointed out that even though I wasn't TTC at the time, I wanted to make sure I had a "clean slate" (as much as possible) so I was ready to go when we did want to start. The fact that you're already TTC should speed the process up, definitely! Is it possible for you to get a second opinion from another GP? When I later saw a locum doc, he was in full agreement that I was right to push for getting things sorted ASAP - so hopefully if there's someone else you can speak to they will say the same.

shankate sorry about your BFN - have there been any developments since?

for everyone this month I think - sounds like lots of us are feeling a bit confused and delicate, with good reason!

Things are a bit weird here...now on CD29 of what I thought was a 50 day cycle, so was planning to DTD as much as possible starting around CD 30 and then continue on for a couple of weeks and see if AF put in an appearance. Wasn't expecting anything at all before then, as this is my lazy cycle's "quiet time"! However, then this happened:

• CD22 EWCM, seemed v early...but we thought what the heck, so DTD
• CD23 pelvic pain which I sometimes get at ov
• CD26 more EWCM
• CD26-29 raised temps each morning

So it looks like I might have ovulated about two weeks earlier than usual...still late for a "normal" person, but v early for me. We are continuing to DTD every other day or so since CD 22, so hopefully will catch the sneaky egg...

Also seems v weird now we have actually started SWI - having spent years trying desperately not to get pregnant, doing the opposite is a whole new experience. Probably definitely TMI but I am not really a fan of the wet patch...and also feel (irrationally) like TTC won't work if everything falls out err...disperses afterwards. Sitting with a pillow under my bum for half an hour after DTD is a perfectly normal thing to do, right?!

XP with chapman re GP! Deffo try another doctor if you can Cookie

Chapman I am super jealous of your holiday. Rome is gorgeous! Wish DH and I had something booked...but due to lack of funds we can't book at the moment, and also have no free time for the next few months. Think we might end up booking something last minute later in the summer and just seeing where we end up!

Lemon - you are funny Hun! I know this is minging but after me and DH dtd I tend not to shower until the next morning or if it's morning sex wait about an hour! So no you are not on your own! 😜 Whatever needs to be done we shall do it!
Fx you catch the little sneaky egg! I never know when I'm coming or going with ewcm Asin when it starts when do you ovulated and how much dtd are you mean to do it's so confusing I totally agree with what u said about trying all your life not to get pregnant!
Thanks lovely it was such a nice holiday I ate what I want (drank too much prosecco!) and just had a really nice time! Trying to cram as many holidays in before we have a baby.. We can only afford them cause a) we don't have any children get and b) we work so much overtime it's ridiculous haha! XXXX

Thanks Chapman!

I have to confess I'm still lurking on this thread to see how you are all getting on.
Too scared to jinx anything by joining a pregnancy thread yet!!

Good luck to you all xx

Hey girls
Still no sign of AF atal I'm almost 2 weeks late ? I don't know what's going on? Any ideas of what's happening :(

Thanks girls, I think I'll possibly go see another gp if there's no change by May time. I'm going on holiday next month so will try and enjoy that & (as the doctor patronisingly put it) make the most of my holiday child free. I can see her point but not the medical advice I want to hear from a doctor!

Your hol just sounds like heaven Chapman! I just love Rome. There's so much to see & do! Lemon, your post cheered me up chick! Totally know what you mean about not wanting to lose the precious swimmers. When I finally get up my DH always laughs at my 'waddle run' to the bathroom - tmi!!

New girl, how you keeping Hun? Have you told anyone else the news yet?

Shan, have you done another test recently? Might still just be the side effects of coming off the pill! Think we all seem to be in similar positions with regards to wild cycles! My AF was over a week late last month so I know how frustrating it is xx

I'm off it since the start of December

The only thing you can do Shan is keep testing or go to the dr for a blood test. At least you will definitely
know either way if try do blood tests.
The only other thing I can think of is that you maybe didn't ovulate and therefore won't have af until you do.
I hope it's a naughty egg and just refusing to show on tests!! Fx for you xxx

That's the thing iv never being irregular? Always had af on time I'm getting paranoid that now everything will go wrong after 3 months of being off it? I don't one test in total which was a tesco one last Thursday as the 2nd 1 was invalid? So I dno weather I'm wasting my time testing?

I had a letter to phone up and book my gynae appt, but when I phoned they said the consultant has reviewed the federal and it has been rejected. They wouldn't tell me why but she said it's likely because I don't meet criteria (I'm not surprised.. Iv been off pill 9 months but only been officially trying for 6). But obviously referral was for pcos rather than fertility. So just waiting to see what GP says.

Sorry GP fobbed you off cookie. Go back and see then if things don't improve. Although as you can see from my situation even if go does take you seriously it still won't get through to gynae til you meet the 1 year mark criteria! (Or 6 months I think if you are over 35, which was probably what they meant by the "young" comment, you are the same age as me... I don't feel particularly young either but know we are still in reproductive terms).

lemon that's great news if you have ovulated early. Are you doing anything different this month? Also eurgh... The dreaded wet patch. Everything Iv read suggests that the actual swimmers are shot at great speed to where they need To go... And what's left is the seminal fluid which is no use to anyone so doesn't matter if it comes out. I lie there as long as I can bear to (what is a romantically acceptable amount of time before you leap up to wee!) before I waddle off to toilet trying to hold everything in with my pelvic floor lift! It's good exercise! Haha.

shanskate have you done any more tests. Were you temping to confirm ovulation? Cycles can be all over the shop after stopping pill... I stopped 9 months ago and my cycles are completely random from 29 days to 100! So it's very difficult to say when af is due, and therefore when it's late.

newgirl how are you? Feeling ok? How many weeks are you now?

X

I'm using an app but it has been always right 😯

It's annoying isn't is shanskate. Hopefully your af is late because you are going to get a bfp. But Iv stopped using my ovia and glow apps because it just works on basic algorithms and previous cycle data to make predictions, which is great if you are very regular, but it can't actually tell you when you ovulate, and therefore when af is due. i use opks and confirm them with temping, and put the data into fertility friend. That's the only way to know for sure when you ovulate and when af is due/late xx

Shan- You've not tested since last Thursday? You need to test again! You might be pregnant and not know it because you're waiting for af to turn up! You could have a long wait haha 😄

Well. Af arrived today. After two weeks of on and off feeling sick and lightheaded.

Poas on Monday after panic buying and negative. Confirmed today by af.

Not too upset about it. At least I know it's back!!!

Forgot how painful cramps were though.

Bobo
What I never taught of it that way? I'm just waiting for af to show up but can understand why it's so late and I'm getting no cramps nothing usually I do be killed with them? OMG I'm kinda excited now but I'm not building my hopes up? For me to get my hands on a test Is a task because there's nowhere around dat sells them I may get DH to see can he pick me up one :)