Thread 8, TTC #1. Change my FW one more time Ovia, I dare you! TMI Warning throughout.

[StarkyTheDirewolf]

Symptom spotters, tww - ers, slightly hysterical hormone laden ladies! Regs, lurkers, intermittent posters! Our raison d'etre is 'am I pregnant?' Depending on how much Ovia (Whybird) has pissed us off/messed with our fw she is either the oracle or a sanctimonious charlatan.

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Thread 8 , Welcome one and all! Group of weirdos, wee hoarders, covert opk or okp, depending on what your autocorrect decides addicts with a side business in CM management!

We do not judge, we enjoy TMI, we i encourage waiting to poas nobody listens and all the grossness you can find from a group of intelligent, articulate ladies. Fart stories make us laugh, stories about cervical mucus, pooing, cysts and nausea equally welcome. Although normal conversation is also encouraged.

Post your stats and add your dates. We have a register thanks to kat a resident piss stick queen runner loaaaaaads of bfp'ers who keep us positive! We don't have rules, we love a good symptom spot, we try to stay grounded and not be hysterical sometimes we manage it aswell

We like acronyms, we make some up: PET = Proper expensive test. We love the d(h)...which can of course mean 'dearest' or 'dickhead' why, what were you thinking?

Cthulhoo I'm sorry to hear your news, I know 2 ladies who conceived after being told their only option would be IVF. Neither wanted to go through the trauma, so they both gave up trying, then both conceived naturally later that year. The doctors said it's not uncommon. Not helpful, I know, but know that we are all here for you

Oh Cthulhoo, I'm so sorry to hear that. Wait for the specialist. As much as the GP knows her stuff, she isn't a specialist. Fx you don't have to wait too long to see them. I would keep on TTC in the mean time.

Lara that article is interesting. I am tempted to write an article about the real reason that men find ovulating women so damn sexy. Its the same reason they say pregnant women are 'glowing'. There is just something about a spotty, bloating, farting, cramping, moody woman that is obsessed with prodding her own cervix and pisses on any stick she can find that just screams sex appeal. I totally get it. I'm pretty sure all of our significant others will testify that being told to get their pants off - 'I don't care if you still have your socks on - just get it done before I stop ovulating' - is a major turn on.

Ooh cthulhoo so sorry that rough stuff, I hope something gets sorted for you

So sorry to hear that Ctulhoo. Hugs for you . Hope someone is there to give you a real life hug.

We also know a couple, TTC for ages, told no way they would conceive naturally, ended up having lovely twins by ivf. Then 3 years later a surprise baby. Also know a couple who were told similar to you and conceived first time with clomid, fx the blood tests are wrong anyway (timing sounds sensitive) x

Sorry about AF Impy and Pyxie. Sucks doesn't it? Though it made me feel marginally better for eating a ton of biscuits earlier in the week...trying to get back into healthy mode now.

There is just something about a spotty, bloating, farting, cramping, moody woman that is obsessed with prodding her own cervix and pisses on any stick she can find that just screams sex appeal.
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I'm so sorry Cthulhoo, that's such shitty news. Fingers crossed clomid does the trick (and still not ruling out it happening naturally). What a dampener to your day, I'm so sorry.

Just catching up. Cthulhoo sending you hugs and positivity, what a shitter! Definitely hang tight until you've chatted to the specialist, like others have said they will be able to give you a fuller picture and hopefully a range of options.

I checked and they did already have the most recent blood test results. :(

It appears that my hormone levels were 9.8 on CD16 and 16.2 on CD22 - they would have liked to see levels of 30+ on CD22. No referrals until a second test at the same cycle day confirms low levels so I will have to go in again for a blood test at the next CD21. If the low hormone levels are confirmed, they'll then refer me to a fertility specialist.

Such im at work now I will have to do the list this evening... If I can finally catch up!
Congrats irregular!!! Bel and miley! Shall move u to grads bus pronto**
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If someone could summarise if there anyone who needs to join us on the feb bus in case I don't get thru all the messages, that would be grand!

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God, that's a bit of a wait, isn't it (though I can see it makes sense to check next cycle).

Hopefully it's just a one-off, and if it isn't, then at least the specialist is the best person to speak to about the next steps.

Hope you're ok!

Oh god. I've been complaining about my job for ages, and a great job is being advertised close to home. But as its teaching the job starts in September, and I'm now looking at hoping for a November baby. I really don't know what to do.

Our plan was for me to be upduffed roughly so that I would work max half a term next academic year (Nov is perfect). Then off until May half term, at which point i would hand in notice as would dh, we'd work the rest of the year (one half term for me), and then move to France. So in August 2017 we'd be living there. And I know that means I don't have to stick at my job much longer. But now part of my is thinking, yes, but I could take this job and we could stay...

But staying means living in a flat with no garden, instead of a big house in the country, and my family and friends are all here... But I'm making my asthmatic child live in London when I know he gets so much better in France every time we go. And we'd have to put off ttc for a year.... And the job looks great, but I might still hate it...

I hate being a grown up and having to make actual life decisions.

Oh Cthulhoo sorry for your shitty news. Another month of waiting before you know if they will refer you or not sucks. I second what others have said though, a fertility specialist will have a much better idea of what treatment you may need/if any than a GP.

Speaking of GP's, I'm going to have to make an appointment to see them again about my cervical ectropion. I had it freezed in July to hopefully stop the bleeding I get after dtd (we aren't talking spotting here, like proper af style bleeding) and it initially seemed to have done the trick, just a tiny amount of spotting after. Over the past couple of months though it's been getting heavier again and I'm currently having to wear a fucking sanitary towel because it's back to how it was before after dtd Tuesday night. Was hoping to dtd tonight, but its hardly conducive to getting either of us in the mood and for being able to regularly do it to have a baby!

I hate my body.

Impy it's really hard to plan when you're trying to concieve and you just don't know how long it is going to take. I've decided I'm not making any decisions based on Ttc, and that I'll adjust any plans if and when a bfp happens. I don't know if that's helpful but that's how I'm working on it.

Cthulhoo, sending hugs your way. I know it sucks, but there is a lot that they can do with modern medicine, chances are it's going to work out just fine :)

impy I know I have like literally zero grasp on your situation really but my advice would be to move out there. You can always move back and at least then you'll know instead of thinking what could have been. What is stopping you going if you don't mind me asking?

We were never going to go til the end of this academic year, as we only really decided for sure over the summer and moving two teachers plus two kids mid-year is a bit tough. We actually have a house in France. Before ds2 was born we'd decided to move, so we house hunted and found the perfect one. Again, bought in October but decided to wait til end of academic year. By the end of the academic year we had ds2 and he was horrendously ill - like we've phoned an ambulance 3 times this month and he's yet again in hospital on oxygen with everyone saying they haven't got a clue what's wrong, and moving was the last thing on our minds. We were so focused on him we just carried on.

Then we looked again and the French had changed their teaching requirement, and the easiest way for me to hit it was actually to train here, so did that and did nqt year so I could work here if we ever came back. And that took us to last summer when we had time to catch our breath and think about it. We've decided to go, but need this year to find positions and sort schools out there etc. And then we decided two years as there are a couple more jobs we want to finish on the house and we could have a baby and not worry about mat leave, and youngest would have done a year in reception, so learnt to read English. And once we decided two years dh changed schools. Now we kind of want to go this summer again, but dh feels he owes them at least one full year (he started there after Christmas). So.... that's August 2017. I need to just stick with the plan, but I think I'd rather sod off to France this summer and not worry about the mat leave.

In the meantime we're renting a flat I dont like living in (fortunately from my parents at family rates) and paying the mortgage on a house I love, but only get the holidays in!

If I apply for that job I'll feel like I owe them too and it'll just delay us going even more. And really, I want to raise the boys there. Not because I think France is necessarily better, but I want to be in our house. We chose it for our family.

Sorry Miley you got an essay!!! It's just something I think a lot about.

Sorry Ctulhoo do you have long to wait until the test?

Pugmummy that sounds like a PITA. Hope you can get it sorted soon.

If that's where your heart is impy... Go there. Life is too short!

Just ran to the loo convinced I'd come on and just LOADS of cm..whats that about!

Ooh confused, that's a good sign!!

cthulhoo sorry to hear this. I know two people who have had beautiful babies having taken clomid - one has triplets! It's good that you're moving forward.

latinata I'm testing on 3rd feb too! With feefs? Though I am not holding out hope for this month! Don't think dtd enough!

That sounds like a really hard decision to make Impy, especially when there are so many unknowns (and coming in CD1 as well must make it even worse). I'm probably slightly biased because my parents have a family home in France and if I could think of any practical way that we could move there, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Could you apply for the job anyway and see what happens? Just going for an interview doesn't commit you to anything and you may decide that you hate it there anyway although that probably doesn't help with the whole wanting to go this summer thing.

Confused - could be a good sign, I've had tons of the stuff the last few days before the BFP this morning (now confirmed by frer!)

impy, kathrino makes a good point, no harm going for the interview, keeps your options open and gives you more time to think!

Not sure it's a good sign impy I'm cramping on my right side.

Elle, I have to take the next test at Cd21, so assuming af turns up tomorrow, the next test would be in three weeks. When the doctor spoke with me she said 'Unless your period doesn't show up, then you'll come in for a pregnancy test.' Me: 'Yeah, unfortunately I found that life doesn't really have a sense of narrative.'

Because of course in a movie our heroine would be so distracted by the bad news that she'd fail to notice her period was late and voila! would get pregnant despite the odds . :-p