Christmas is here but it's not the turkey that's getting basted... with symptoms to spot and festive cheer, Prty and the gang are getting BFPS this year!!

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Hi (big wave)
So you clicked on here cos you were looking for me (I'm flattered!) or the title seemed interesting!
I'm aware it doesn't really explain anything but we are bunch of lovely ladies all TTC and going ever so slightly crazy with it! For more info see our original thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2412386-TTC-anxious-over-early-pregnancy-possible-symptoms?msgid=56357000#56357000

And our most recent thread here -

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/2480630-So-its-John-Wayne-vs-Les-Dawson-in-The-Great-British-Pee-Off-and-Prtys-judging-get-ready-to-be-basted-lovelies?pg=1&order=

We are symptoms spotters extraordinaire - you name it we've had it, real and/or imagined
We are here to help, we are all supportive, we laugh, rant, cry, joke, rage, smile, and comfort together. Be you a lurker or poster (established or new) then you are very welcome here. We only have a few rules:

1. No judgement - we all lead different lives and have different standards and that is fine. You wanna get wasted everyday of TWW, that's fine. You wanna abstain completely, that's fine. We need support, not judgement.
2. No feeling stupid - we've all had those months where we definitely think we are pg 110% convinced and then AF turns up, don't feel bad about it, it happens. Also we all have different levels of knowledge so no question is stupid apart from the one you don't ask.
3. On this thread there is no such thing as TMI - we are all adults and we all know how miraculous and amazing... and downright disgusting our bodies can be, it's fine. Share what you want, we will not be fazed.

So that's it, jump in and FX'd for all my lovelies xx

Loving the enforced positivity ladies!

Think i'll have to take a look for acupuncture local to me, it seems a lot of you have good things to say about it

I have only HEARD good things about acupuncture Snowy!! But figure it is worth a shot.

I am nervously awaiting colleague sending me scan photo... I am dreading it. Knowing my recent luck she is probably having quintuplets or some super-human, amazing, miracle baby. Debating on whether I can just ignore the message and ignore her for the rest of the week.

Yes. My name is Flowers and I am a bitter and jealous cow

I'm the same snowy just coming up to a year trying myself. My two dogs keep me going but I think if we were told we couldn't have kids a puppy would come along lol

mrs - big hugs, hope you are coping okay getting the scan pic, I'm exactly the same - I'm a bitter and jealous cow too and can't deny it any longer. At least we can vent here

I am just back from my monthly 'I am barren' trip to boots, i.e. stocking up on OPK's, sanitary towels and folic acid (this is the only type of shopping i do not like). Decided to give EPO a try this month and got DH some wellman vitamins, as they say, every little helps.

neetie I have told DH that if the baby making does not work for us i am starting a rescue shelter

Hi all!
Flowers that is SO annoying about the docs!! I really feel for you. Do you know when you can expect to hear?
Snowy so sorry about blummin AFs arrival! You're being so great about it! I need to tap a bit of that positivity! And I agree with mrs it can help to plan - ok, what will I do differently for next cycle. What can I do better...
Kitten hope the scan pic goes ok. Take a deep breath, and channel your fave actress!!
I'm having a very frustrating start to my period. I've basically had very light spotting, which isn't leading to anything. And it's brown and mucus-y, which I feel is weird, but maybe it's normal. I can never remember!! It's weird, as I should have come on yesterday, as I'm pretty sure I ovulated on the 10th according to my temps. I just want it to come now. I've got horrid backache, and my hormones have been all over the place since Saturday. Could it really be the moon f*^%ing with our cycles this month?
Prty - hope you're ok' I know you're in the dreaded DBAFD phase!!

I'm not all positive, i've had my moments of sobbing in the toilet at work and i know once i get home to see DH i'll do it again. But i just keep telling myself that there is no point in it, my sobbing won't make AF go away so may as well try start thinking about the next time and getting myself prepared

Snowy that made me laugh out loud!

Hippy its me expecting the scan pic, nothing yet so waiting to be baby-bombed spectacularly...

I hope the weird AF sorts itself out!

I have a Drs app next Monday now. Frustrating but even if she hadn't cancelled I would have still had to go back for day 21 bloods (as AF was late I think I have totally miscalculated). Day 2 bloods being done tomorrow (that will be second day of full flow so hopefully is OK). At least things are moving!

Oh flowers I hope your next appointment goes ok, least you're booked in.

hippie hope you're ok!

snowy you need bless you.

My headache isn't as bad now but have afew cramp type things.. Thinking maybe ovulation pains? Would I still get them? I've gone abit brain dead today! Both colleagues have been in work today who are newly back from maternity.. Jesus, I'm going to lose it soon!! One of them is now saying she'll think she will have another at the end of the year or next year.... I bet she'll still beat me to it

Sorry Flowers I keep getting you muddled up with the other mrs!!
Still just having my frustrating spotting! I know when I'm in full flow I'll long to have the spotting back! But still. It is frustrating!

Hope seeing the scan picture was bearable MrsFlowers and don't worry, I am a bitter and jealous cow too so don't think you are alone. I think it is a very normal response and reaction and I need to keep telling myself that

neetie I have seven cats. Do you think there is a link?! At least I have managed to have a DC although I am worried that I will turn into the local pet rescue centre if I don't have another one.

snowy I hate that shopping too. I do have a good view of EPO and acupuncture though. The time I got pregnant with my DC was when I was taking 3000mg of EPO for the first half of my cycle and having regular acupuncture as well as taking Chinese herbs. No idea if it actually did anything but I definitely had a child afterwards.

Sorry you are having such a bad day in work glitter.

I have decided to start acupuncture again from next cycle and if I still haven't conceived by March, I will see my doctor. AF is due tomorrow and I don't have a single pregnancy related symptom, so holding out no real hope at all.

The scan picture hasn't been sent! She actually sent a work related email to which I replied briefly and didn't ask or make any small talk. I know its rude but I just can't take her happiness when I feel so crappy. I am thinking maybe I will just tell her how I really feel... Either I grow a pair and be honest or I avoid her and cry in the toilets for the next five months...

FUZZY I THOUGHT I WAS BAD!!! I have three cats! But agree with you and Neetie fur babies are an invaluable support.

Crossing all for you Fuzzy and hoping you get back to normal soon Hippy!

Glitter you can join me and Kitten in our bitter, bashing anti-pregnant colleagues club

glitter - yes definitely join mrs and me in our bitter anti pregnant colleagues club
mrs I honestly would have done exactly the same as you, don't feel bad. I'm sick of having to pretend to be nice to pregnant women when I'm so upset about my failure. I do the crying in toilets thing on a regular basis!
snowy - hope you're okay tonight. I hate that 'I am barren' shopping trip too - I go from buying pregnancy tests one day to buying all that crap the next, it's soul destroying.
Had a bit of a meltdown today just got really angry with myself. Think it's because I was trying to work out how to pay for my acupuncture then was angry that I've had to resort to paying all that money out for trying to conceive - something millions of women achieve all the time and I can't do it

prty - are you okay?

Don't feel bad Kitten. I think it's a sign of determination and a sign that you will be a good mum who stops at nothing and no cost

I'm also worried about our Prty Where are you lovely? Xxx

kitten yeah I'm grand tonight, been at this a long time so I bounce back pretty quick . But seriously, I'm at the stage where after the dreaded 2WW, if AF does turn up once I get over the initial gut wrenching disappointment, I relax and make the most of a week without OPK's and frantically DTD

Thanks mrs, that's a nice way to look at it x
snowy - glad you've bounced back okay , that's a good way to look at it.
I've just confirmed my acupuncture appointment for 15th February which is great timing as af will arrive the 12th so hopefully it will be early enough in the cycle to do something! Oh and I promise not to be posting any photos of tests this month and getting excited for nothing - in fact I am not going to even test - saving money for the acupuncture!

Hi all - just checking in this morning. Looks like this is the acupuncture month! Somebody asked me how often I do it... I started off weekly, but after 2 months of that, it was becoming cripplingly expensive, so I've gone down to fortnightly, which is easier, plus, she's given me a bit if a discount, after I mentioned I was struggling to pay. I do think it's worth doing weekly for a bit, as you probably need it more intensely first. But talk to your acupuncturist!
I'm seeing mine on Friday, and I cannot WAIT!! I'm still just getting brown spotting. I know, so far so normal, except that it feels different this month. Firstly, if I did ovulate this month, it would have been on the CD10, according to my temps, now it is CD 26, and I would have been due on CD24 (14day Luteal phase always), so I am effectively 2 days late, as brown discharge doesn't count as a period. Also, I had that 'implantation dip', when I also had a slight tinge on the tissue, then I has such awful PMT at the weekend, which went from Monday, when the spotting started, plus I've got the worst backache ever, have had an awful headache on and off for about a week, and just feeling off. But... You know what's coming...! I did a test yesterday evening and got a bfn! So frustrating!
I've just read threads where people have been in the same situation as me, even had BFNs, but ended up being preggers, but I know I shouldn't get my hopes up. Help!! I just want it to come now!! I hate being in limbo!
Prty hope you're ok!!

I also don't feel 'due' any more, just that weird feeling. Headache, backache, and have been feeling nauseous on way to work (although I do tend to randomly get that).

Well, writing that was obviously cathartic! Got bright red blood now. Literally, woke up to same brown, and then half an hour later or so, here we go. Even writing all of the above, I didn't really believe I was pregnant, because of the BFNs. I'm actually quite relieved, just want to get on with my next cycle, make sure we DTD at the right time, I want to work on making my temps lower during the follicular phase, and try and make this cycle a good 'un! And no tests and no symptom spotting!! Also, I've been worrying that exercise, running etc, will impede TTC, but it's not made any difference, so I'm going to start running again and get a bit fitter!! So sorry to clog up the thread this morning with 3 posts in a row!!

Thanks Hippy. Mine has recommended weekly and also said she could do a discounted rate. I have a consultation on Monday and will decide then after chatting with them in more detail.

Can you test again tomorrow or Friday AM with FMU? That is I the spotting continues?

Sadly for me I haven't been able to get to my blood clinic this morning - I am currently on route to the vets with a poorly fur baby! Officially giving up on this month!

hippy - sorry that it was af in the end but at least now you can concentrate on this new cycle. The af bitch does that to me some months too and I start to think what if even though I know it's too good to be true.
mrs - how's your fur baby?

Sorry Hippy we must posted at the same time this morning so forgive me trying to make you POAS again! I am sorry its AF but pleased you can move forwards.

Fur baby is fine Kitten! Just bloody expensive!

Here's a question - my Dr said to get blood tests 7 days before AF (so that's effectively CD21 even though it isn't in my cycle) and the day of AF. Today would have been CD2 and I have missedmy chance to go to the clinic - do you think it will be OK to go tomorrow? I am sure I have read that it can be done between CD1-5?

Flowers when i was getting my bloods done i was told day 21 and day 2 or 3 so i think tomorrow would be fine, though you might want to give your practice a ring to double check