TCOYF - follow on chart spotters thread

[MrsMcJnr]

Geek - how embarrassed am I? talk about teaching your Granny to suck eggs! so sorry. Does that mean though that you can solve my problem? I am trying to move my software to another computer without losing my past cycles, how can I move them?

Temp dropped by .3 this morning

xmassy - i think it says 'very low' if you bd more than 2 days before ov. so, there is a chance you could concieve, but its less chance than if you bd the day before ov and the day of ov! make sense?

Thanks greedy! Guess it does make sense.

Does that mean we've got to do more BDing? We've already done it twice in twelve days!

Hello Ladies god, I am missing MN SO SO much!! Hey ho, I?m back now for a wee bit for a quick fix . I?ll go and have a chart spot in a mo. It?s the new job, I have such a public desk that there is just no way I can look at MN during the day .

Yipee ? Greedy?s back so glad you?ve finished sulking and are back with us Now, what?s all this negativity?!

Hello We3cats ? of the ferns you got but can appreciate your frustration this cycle, you are normally like clockwork! It certainly is possible to start OV and stop because the hormones are not quite at the right level, I think I have done that a few cycles too. You must be feeling really stressed. Thank you for missing me!

Hi Sparklytreeangel ? time of rest for you then!

Geek ? so glad you are ok, hope you are not worried about anything serious. I hope you plan works, I am treading so carefully round DH but we had to stop mid BD on Monday night because he was too tired and he?s not had a glimmer of interest in doing anymore since. I am getting that horrible retracting feeling inside again that I get when I feel like I am doing everything I can but can?t do it alone and he is not helping me I know he is recovering from an op but I think he is dwelling on money issues whilst he is home alone all day and that he might be subconsciously holding out on me.

XmassyCharlotte - Know exactly how you feel, isn?t it nice to know that we are not alone in how we feel about TTC?

Hello Natty

3cats ? looking pretty sure that you OV now. Fingers crossed hun!

BBW ? how and where are you? When is AF due? Is the Boxing Day BDing going to be at a good time?

Wow, good going on the Bding Sparklytreeangel hope your hard work pays off!

Chart looks fine XmassyCharlotte ? action time!

Fingers crossed Snowy!

Hello MrsMc! Argh, know what you mean about having too public a desk to get away with personal internet use... oh the indignity!

Are you still using the saliva microscope? After your of my ferning on CD6, I haven't seen hide nor hair of another bleedin' fern since! Am preparing to throw my microscope in my Bin Of Useless Nonsense Items at the end of the month. Keep peering into it only to see... yup... think that's another load of...... random DOTS.

This issue of BD with dp really is very difficult... can understand what you're going through MrsMc. In our house dp is VERY stressed about his finances too... as the end of the tax year approaches he's decided to have a bit of a 'spring clean' and is worried about all sorts of things. He's working really hard, then coming home and working at home all evening sorting out various mortgages/property purchases/etc that are all going through. I'm freelance and my work is very up and down and I think that's making him more stressed too. It's not a good time to 'demand' anything of him. Last night we felt like awkward teenagers with each other - it was so weird!

It's great that everyone's so honest on here - it would be easy to sink even further down if everyone else pretended their lives were perfect, but you're right - it really does help knowing that we've all got our own crosses to bear... some of them surprisingly similar.

I think my own tactic is just to try and have fun with him over the next couple of weeks. I nearly had a fit this afternoon... I couldn't find the Pre-Seed that I ordered last week - it's been put away or thrown away and I couldn't find it and I nearly had a freak out that it might affect our chances. Hmmm. Time to c.a.l.m. down methinks!!!

Enough for now, better get back to being the Attentive Loving Partner that I am...

Hello MrsMc, good to see you again. .

Xmassycharlotte, the saliva microscopes can be a bit hit and miss. I got very frustrated with mine in the beginning. Now I only use it when I think Ov is coming up, based on the temping. Still get some ferns when I shouldn't and none when I should. I'm glad I don't use it on it's own, I wouldn't have a clue what was going on (well less of a clue than I do now !).

We're all trying so hard we should get some more BFPs soon.

I've got a feeling that my AF will come and go before DH and I BD again! Due 22/12 since Ov moved. May test early with my one remaining test perhaps Tuesday. Silly I know but once the children finish school I won't have time or privacy to do it. I can't even change a sanitary towel without one of them asking me why I'm wearing a nappy and why am I bleeding from my front bottom !!!!
We have family staying this weekend so no chance to BD then. Not that we need to for baby making but fun would be a good reason. No chance!

What happened to my sad face emoticon?

Nope, not working today.

Hi 3cats

Reassuring about the saliva ferning. This cycle I've been doing a swab every morning before I eat/drink anything and - nada, except on CD5 or 6, when I looked at the microscope HOURS after having left a swab and it was full of ferns. Discounted that reading as it hadn't shown anything earlier when I'd had a look at it. Haven't seen anything similar since.

Lol @ your lack of privacy with the children... and to think this is what I'm so desperately aiming for with my life!! I'm TTC #1, so it'll all be a big shock to the system I'm sure! I'm terrible at resisting the urge to test, whether it be for OV or for a BFP. Bought loads of cheapie tests from Access Diagnostics but now I just go through them even faster.

Am getting very frustrated with the OPKs though. Just did one this morning (cheapie type) and it came up with a faint line next to the control. Typical me thought oh! maybe I should try with a Clearblue one to double check... again, a faint line with that one. So today I've used 2 OPKs and it's not even 11am!! I know I'm supposed to wait until later in the day so no doubt I'll convince myself to use another one later just to double check.

Awww. Thanks you guys for remembering me in your posts - I was, of course, popping in for lurking sessions and was touched you were keeping watch.

If Greedy hadn't had (what, in my understanding was) a pretty text book PG temperature chart and ending up with a BFP, I would have been very excited about my chart... the longest LP I've had since charting, and not the usual below coverline dips. (looks like b6 has helped)
I've been ignoring cramps for 3 days and taking it very easy, but today the bitch arrived. DOESN'T SHE KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS.

So... tomorrow I start Clomid for 5 days- so if you look at my chart don't be surprised if it looks odd, I understand it can increase BBT. It can also reduce CM so the PreSeed is on hand for the first time... so we'll see how it goes.

IF my ov time doesn't change we'll be sneaking cheeky festive sessions in my parent's house - Although they are equally desperate to be Grandparents as we are to become parents... I'm not sure we can say "we're just popping upstairs to get another one in"... but then again...

I'm sure I'll pop in before Christmas - but wishing you lots of loved up BDing, mince pies and festive fun.
XXX

oh snowy! thats such a shame about af. just goes to show that the charting doesn't show us that much after all and there is no point looking for temp dips and rises cos they really could mean anything or nothing! i am so sorry for you, but you sound quite chirpy despite of mean old af! i am sure you have heard it all before.....but i know 3 people who took clomid and all fell pg within 2 months and one of them with twins! GOOD LUCK!

by the way....if only my chart had ended with a bfp!? i take it you meant bfn, you donut!

3cats! i am glad you get that with your kids too!.....my ds's favorite is....'what is that blue thing? the string? what is it? can i pull it please mummy?' and he follows me round the house with my tampons saying ' would you like one of these mummy, ladies need these, do you want one!?'

{fgrin] Laughing at your kids, I'd be mortified but I am sure I'll learn - if I get the chance that is.

Snowydays - sorry about AF, I really am but your attitude is great, keep it up!

My saliva monitor continues to anger me, I have given up looking at it, I use it and then ask DH to check it!

Sorry about AF snowy. That was a short cycle.

Glad I'm not the only one with no privacy, Greedy.

MrsMc, you lose all inhibitions once you have children.

Until tomorrow...goodnight ladies.

MrsMc - no not worried about anything serious, just got loads of things on. I volunteer with a youth group, and it's our Christmas party tonight which has taken a fair amount of prep the past few weeks, and I'm also helping a gaggle of them learn some christmas carols so we can go sing at our local hospital Plus all the normal christmas card writing, shopping, present wrapping, mince pie making, blah blah blah... All good Christmassy stuff, but it's keeping me busy busy busy!

So sorry your DH is not feeling inspired about TTC at the mo, must be so frustrating for you on lots of levels. Mine's still pretty positive fortunately, and we've got a few more days of BDing to go this cycle. Then he's having an op on his toe next Thursday - nothing as major as what your DH went through from the sounds of it, but I can't help worrying about him anyway...

Btw, I've been taking evening primose oil this month, and I have noticed a difference in CM already! It could actually be described as eggwhitey (or 'eeuwww!', as I can't help saying in my head whenever I read EWCM ), which is pretty disgusting but encouraging at the same time!

Hello everyone Greedy you made me LOL so much yesterday my manager thought I'd been drinking at lunchtime!
Not having any of my own that's something funny to look forward to!
I've found the chart software really useful.
Finished this month's bd marathon
OVd later than I thought I normally did this month but with the temping, CBFM, CM checks I am in no doubt as to when.
Now its just a waiting game to see whether I have a short luteal phase after all or just OVd later!

Hello - my software has started doing something new if it changes my temp due to getting up early or late, it details it in the notes. It's never done that before!

CD13 and the saliva scope and OPK have not worked again today thought I saw sliht ferning last night on the SS but could have been wishful thinking.

Sparklytreeangel - glad you are feeling you've done your best this cycle, it's all you can do . Hope your LP is 10 days plus. I find the software helps me too.

Geek - Busy lady! Can your Dh give mine a pep talk?! Hope th op goes ok. That's great about the EPO!

Off to do some chart spotting.

Geek - do you think you OVd today?

Very jealous of all the BDing all you ladies have been doing!

Just wanted to say cycle buddy MrsMc - I'm also getting negatives all round with the OPKs and microscope. NADA.

I've used about 10 OPKs in 5/6 days... been saliva microscoping at least twice a day... CM isn't exactly EW consistency - and am CD14 on a 27 day average cycle - usually OV ~CD14-15. Harrumph!

XmassyCharlotte - hello! I few cycles ago, I got myself really worked up abou the negative OPKs and as a result OV was delayed 2 days, not suggesting you are getting that way, just a warning that OV does depend on your mood etc whereas AF is unaffected. I'm only using the OPKs to use them up and out of curiosty but I'm not letting them stress me out, as for the saliva scope, the ferns are as elusive as sea monkeys (remember them?!) I'm Cd14 and no EWCM/wetness yet which is frankly a relief as if I OVd tomorrow with not a single viable BD, I would be devastated. DH did sleep in our bed with me last night which was nice but no action . Happy BDing!

hiya mrs! how are you today? i just read peckas post and feel sad. even a bfp isnt everything is it? i guess it has to stick after that doesnt it. i feel for her. i hope you are getting some more bding action in. my in laws are staying so its not really possible for us at the moment, but i have asked my dh to come and pick me up from work later, and i am the ONLY one here, and i have got my sexy uniform on!......so you never know what could happen over my treatment bench!!!!

Lol @ greedy - what a mental image for me to take through the day!

MrsMc - ha... yes, remember sea monkeys. All I ever got were some extremely small worm type things swimming around. After a couple of weeks I thought "What exactly is the point of this? I'm cultivating what look like bed bugs, in my house and on purpose". Ahh, fond memories of being in my early 20s...

Good point about the OPKs. Maybe I should just leave them for this month. I really have been obsessing, and have decided if I am going to use them, not to buy any more of the cheapy ones. I did 2 this morning, and still can't interpret the results. They're those Access Diag ones, and I've got a dark pink control line, with pale pink flooded throughout the rest of the viewing panel, and a bright WHITE line where the test line should be. Good grief. It's enough to drive me round the bend. I was going to go out and get a Clearblue Digital today, but it's getting ridiculous. Might decide to leave it for this month. The main reason, I guess, is just to reassure myself that I am ovulating.

We've been hard 'at it' in the BDing department. We had a big old chat about it last night because it's only the first month of really feeling like 'oh god! must do it NOW', and it's already really getting to dp. He is exhausted. He's putting in a lot of effort, which is good, but it has put something of a strain on that side of things between us already. I think after this cycle we might have to readdress how we go about it. He said last night I'm already behaving like we've got a problem and we've got no evidence that that's the case. My retort is always that I'm 36 and I don't want to waste 6 or 12 months trying half-heartedly when we could put in 100% effort right from the start. I'm sure we're not alone with our different standpoints on this subject!

Hope you're feeling better today though - glad DH slept in same bed... it's a good start!! Have a fab weekend and good luck with the viewings.

xmassy you are doing well. lots of bding and you are bound to ovulate v. soon! keep it up! (or should i say that to your dh!!!)

Thanks greedy... I'll pass on the message to the snoring man upstairs

We've had a small tiff tonight so I don't think there'll be any more of 'that' going on this evening!!

I've given up on all the 'evidence' of ovulation for the software. The ferning isn't appearing, my temps are still low, and because of all the BDing I'm not sure how to interpret the CF each day. It was quite EW this morning/afternoon, but then (TMI alert!!) we did BD last night using Pre-Seed, so who knows . Oh well, my cycle has been 27/28 days for the past few months so if I am going to ovulate, it should happen soon.

Too tired to chart-spot now but will have a look at others in the morning!

BDing at work was fun!!!!.....